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We used FLL 1 and 2 then switched to MCT with supplements. (We supplement every subject.) I think FLL 3 and MCT would be an excellent combo.
Rex Barks is a possibility for adding diagramming.
We tried KISS when my daughter was around 7 and she wasn't thrilled with it. There was something about the format that didn't work for her. She would do the exercises, but never as happily as she did FLL or MCT.
I think for her it is just the layout of KISS. After seeing the recent discussions of KISS, I decided to try it again. I'm considering using a sentence or two from KISS for dictation and then working on them. That would avoid the issue of format.
I think it would be possible to use all three programs (FLL, MCT and KISS). They each have different strengths and would complement each other nicely.
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If you are planning on having them take another test anyway and the TerraNova is optional, then I don't see much reason to take it.
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My daughter has taken the TerraNova CAT. It's the only one she's taken, so I can't compare it to other tests.
She uses Scoring High as one of her test prep resources.
That's probably not much help. Do you have any specific questions?
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We are actually starting today...in a few minutes. I didn't use the living book recommendations when I planned out the first 3 chapters, but I suspect they will come in handy in the future. The library had some more age-appropriate books for my younger son that I will be using.
I hope it goes well for you. It took us a few lessons to find how to best use the program. Don't be discouraged if it takes a bit of time to find your way.
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I'd been looking and looking for some kind of physical science textbook. What I had been using wasn't working. I needed something that walked me through the concepts a bit better. I was looking hard at CPO science textbooks and I finally chose CPO Physical, Earth, and Space science. The student edition arrived today and I am very happy. It looks like a perfect fit for my son. :thumbup1: Plus the teacher's edition has a list of living books for each part of the textbook so I will be doing the same topics with my younger son and using living books. Has anyone else used this? I tried doing a search on here, but came up empty for that particular curriculum.
I would be interested to hear how Physical, Earth, Space works for you. We are using CPO Life Science this year and are happy with it. The living books suggested for various levels are a wonderful addition.
We are planning to use Physical, Earth, Space next year. My daughter has commented how much she enjoys science this year. The living books suggested in the TM have played a part in that.
I would love to hear your thoughts once you start the program. :bigear:
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We did the Island level last year, with my 4th grader. She liked the stories, and the characters, especially Mud. We still talk about Mud when we talk grammar issues. But I switched because I was really looking for more mechanics, more practice and traditional diagramming, and MCT didn't offer that. I liked MCT a lot, but considering how expensive it is, and realizing that I'd need to supplement the mechanics practice, diagramming, and writing with 2 or 3 other programs, I couldn't justify the cost of it.
What I would love to be able to do, actually, is supplement all my other language arts stuff with MCT. If my library offered MCT, that would be ideal.
If I keep anything out of MCT, it will be the poetry component. In fact, I might at some point, puchase the entire poetry series and use it as an independent writing study, but other than that, we're happy with Hake. I use all of the Hake, too, including the writing part, but I supplement only with Writing Strands. Cost wise, I think it's the best curricula choice I've found for my dollar. Not to mention, my dd herself said that Hake was probably the best she'd used.
HTH.
Thanks. I appreciate your input.
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We went from FLL to MCT and then switched to Hake. Hake is working very well here, but I'm not sure you'd want it, since it does have repetition. It works like Saxon math works, so if you like Saxon, chances are you'll like Hake, but it's definitely secular, which is always preferred here.
Would you mind elaborating on why you switched from MCT? Which levels of MCT did you do? Are you still using any parts of MCT?
We are doing the Voyage level and don't like it as well as the first two levels. I'm trying to decide whether to supplement or change completely.
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This is a fantastic thread. I struggle with some of the issues mentioned. These posts have given me much food for thought.
Many thanks!
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But assuming we decide to use it next year, we will supplement with Nebel, as well as a whole bunch of other books.
I think of CPO as a spine. With most subjects we have a spine and then lots of supplemental books. As a spine I think CPO is great. I wouldn't plan to use it as the ONLY science book for the year. I don't think I could ever find a single book that fit the bill for a year's study of science.
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Where can you get the adult version?I posted links to amazon in my earlier post. Most bookstores should have a copy too.
You might also be able to get it through interlibrary loan.
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Just wanted to mention that I enjoyed the adult version. I would consider reading it as a read aloud. Both versions (adult and children's) are gems.
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We have the books of the children's series. They were a huge hit with my daughter when she was younger. We read Grammar-Land about the same time. It is another book with an amusing approach to grammar.
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I don't. Potty? Precocious? Potential? Price? Phonics?
I don't know either. :confused:
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What I have done, am doing, and will do with future kidlet... Focus on the 3Rs until 1st grade. With reading, writing, and basic math down pat, they're ready to learn all kinds of things. :) .........
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Lots of good advice in the whole post! For many reasons, I wouldn't rush into starting the formal cycles of science and history.
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I am wanting to follow the WTM suggestions pretty closely......But, how does that work with an accelerated learner. .... Did you guys ever just start the 1st grade recommendations 1-2 years early? Or maybe do an extended Grammar Stage?
My daughter is always working at various levels. She was ready for logic stage work in many subjects before fifth grade so we started those when she was ready. Remember, it's not set in stone. The stages are guidelines.
An extended grammar stage wouldn't be necessary. Just move to logic level in each subject as he is ready.
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My daughter becomes quite introspective around her birthday and can get emotional in all directions.
She's not in any situations where age is much of a factor right now, so we've not encountered exactly the situation you're describing. Birthdays are still fraught with emotions though.
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If we had a single preschool-aged child who no longer needed a nap, I'd go on lots and lots of outings. Walks around the neighborhood, library, parks, ponds, churches, festivals, air fields, ethnic grocery stores, nature preserves, historic sites, museums big and small. And take time to wander a bit, and talk to them about everything. :)
(Can you tell I've fantasized about this? LOL.)
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This sounds like what we did when my DD was younger. Lots and lots of outings, reading, outside time and talking. It was a solid educational and intellectual foundation for her. Lots of good memories too!
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I e-mailed AoPS to ask about Singapore PM 6 vs. AoPS Prealgebra. R.R. replied back that there wasn't enough data to know for sure whether you can skip PM 6, but that many students go straight from PM 6 to AoPS Intro to Algebra, and he thinks you could likely go from PM 5 to AoPS Prealgebra. For the younger student (8-9 year olds), he suggested going ahead and trying the AoPS, and if they aren't quite ready, switch back to PM 6.
Great info. Thanks!
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There are books from The Critical Thinking Company that might work and wouldn't require lots of writing, but I would be hesitant to use them at that age.
I would be more inclined to give mental stimulation through increasingly complicated games, interactive imaginative play with intricate plot lines, storytelling, building with Legos or other materials (even with real wood etc), more advanced read alouds and discussions, more detailed nature study etc.
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Yes, she is working on rate currently. :)....From what I recall, 6a & 6b didn't have a whole lot of new material. My ds was pretty young though, and I figured extra practice was a good idea.............Looking through his SM books, we could have jumped ship after 5A. My only concern might have been the decimal and percentage portions of 5B, but even those probably wouldn't have been necessary. .....We did SM (US Edition) and CWP through 6b, but accelerated through 6A/B and didn't do all of the problems and reviews.
Thanks so much! I think we will go through SM 5B and LOF Decimals next semester. That will put us on track to start AoPS Pre-Algebra and LoF Pre-Algebra in the summer. We will also continue doing our other supplements.
Thanks again!
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lol, sometimes it is just easier to have things delivered to the house than have to make another run into town to the store...
And to have everything right in a box and not even need to go looking around the house or digging in the frozen ground. ;-)
It makes it a no excuses situation. ;)
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The CPO LifeSci book also looks really good to me with my biggest concern being whether we'll be able to do some experiments/demonstrations or not. Are there many projects in there with specialized supplies we might have a hard time accessing outside the public school realm? I noticed a plant based experiment with 4 clover samples; I was thinking I can probably substitute other plants but the example made me wonder if supplies might be hard to get. And are there many demonstrations or not so much? I also haven't been able to find out how much the teacher guide is (web server errors I guess...) and how necessary it might be, any ideas?
Thanks!
My 10yo is using CPO Life Science this year. We ordered supplies from Home Science Tools. They didn't have clover seeds, but they had other seeds that worked just as well. They also carried the brine shrimp eggs needed for another experiment. You can even buy cups with lids and dirt in baggies from them if you need to.
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Dd passed the aops prealg placement test but is not ready for the wordiness and lack of visual presentation in aops.
Thanks! Hmm...We are having sort of the opposite problem. My DD no longer needs the visual presentation and enjoys "wordiness." I need to look at 5B more closely and see if there is much new info. Did your daughter learn many new concepts in 5B?
CPO Physical, Earth, and Space Science
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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I find the teacher's edition useful. It has the answer keys for almost everything. (It doesn't include answers for the skills and practice sheets.)
You can view both the student and teacher's editions online, so you wouldn't necessarily have to purchase it.
The teacher's edition also has sample data for the experiments. Some of the experiments we don't do because of time/resource constraints, so we view and discuss the sample data.
I wouldn't say the print version of the teacher's edition is vital, but using it in some form certainly enhances the program and makes it more user friendly.