I know it's graphic, and it can get worse for the animals too. But that's just the truth about these things. Last year when I was working for a pub, they used them and I found a mouse jaw and eyeball with some skin - the mouse was no where to be seen. That's how desperate they are to escape, and I don't blame them. Unfortunately, people look for the easy way out and have no consideration of the pain they're causing. So unnecessary. :glare:

Why are you using glue traps? :/ They are the most disgusting, horrible trap in existence. Do you even knows what happens to the mice on these things? They struggle, and struggle and eventually pull parts of their skin off. Even gnaw on a leg to escape. A snap trap is more merciful in comparison. Please, do not use them. They're never a good idea. In addition, the mouse tends to poop and pee on them a lot, splashing it everywhere.

Good. At least you're doing the decent thing. :)

What's sad is that you're trying to de-rail a topic that is actually genuine and heartfelt. So forgive me if I ignore you now.

Yeah, sometimes they will catch a leg or tail instead. Usually because the trap has a really inferior spring mechanism or the incorrect bait was used. No trap is ever 100% infallible, but even so, the chance for a quick kill via a snap trap is a lot better than hours of torment of a glue trap. The best we can do is minimise any suffering, no matter what trap we use. Yeah, I know, some people will scoff at this and find it laughable...

If you believe I'm trolling, then you're sadly mistaken. :glare:

You could be using the wrong bait and wrong type of snap trap? There are several varieties. Or perhaps you could not worry about something so silly and stick with the topic in question? Do you have any thoughts on the subject or not? ;) This topic is my focus atm, and is no different than any other in its legitimacy. I'll be more than happy to participate in other threads, in due time.

Yeah, snakes are awesome. So misunderstood.

Don't recommend killing snakes as they're extremely useful to control the local rodent population. If you have one in your house or in the garden, I'd just call a snake wrangler.

It doesn't matter if they're rodents, it is still unnecessary cruelty to animals irrespective of what kind of status you put on them. They're animals that still have the capacity to feel pain, and by deliberately causing more than necessary, debases your humanity and decency. Especially when you choose to make it suffer instead giving it a swift, and hopefully painless end. Would you torture a dog to death? A rabbit? No. Then why a rat? Imagine the slow torture happening to you...

If the animal is infected with the virus, it's not going to matter what method they use. There is still risk of exposure. But it's much less with a quick-kill trap because on a glue trap, the animal is going to pee some more and wriggle around everywhere.

Long enough so that they're still suffering miserably. And that is too long. So you don't care that you make something suffer heaps, akin to torturing it? That's pretty disturbing, and I would say it speaks volumes. I wonder why someone would use them in the first place - if it's because nothing else works, fair enough. But at least these kind of people have the humanity and decency in them to put the animal out of its misery, rather than leave it in agony in a rubbish bin. People like you emphasise the point of my rant perfectly. Note that I am not criticising you for using glue traps themselves, but the method in which you dispose of them afterwards.

Snap traps don't have to be dangerous, if you put them inaccessible areas or put them in bait stations. And you're implying that you throw living creatures into the rubbish? Put them out of their misery, why make them suffer more than they have to? Don't you understand how cruel they are if you just let the animal linger on it for a long period of time? That is not necessary at all.

Snap traps and ratzappers. Or cage traps. Usually? And what do you do to live ones? Throw them in the trash too?

Yes, but what do you do to the trapped animals on them? That's the question over glue trap use. And hantavirus or not, that's no reason to make them suffer unnecessarily. Hantavirus is very, very rare - you're more likely to get struck by lightning. And what's wrong with using a traditional snap trap, have you tried those? But if you're worried about Hantavirus - be aware the glue traps actually encourages its spread because a trapped animal will urinate and poop more when it's frightened (as it will on a glue trap), and trying to get away so all this stuff will splash everywhere. It's why the CDC don't recommend them.