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Here's a recent thread where we talked about it. Amyrjoy is right, there are other threads you can find if you have time to do a search.
Hope that helps.
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That is a really cute crocheted Madeline.
Kristin- I looked at your blog post about Madeline. Lots of great ideas, I really like the organ apron and the outline of the body that you did. Looks like so much fun! :)
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Well we haven't done anything but read it over and over and over. YES, my kids love the book! :D
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There are new versions. We just starting using MUS last year, so I'm not certain when the changes took effect. I also don't know what exactly changed. I do know that the Teacher books are Hardback, not comb bound. The Student books are also bound but have perforations for tearing out and are also 3 hole punched for storing in a binder.
I'm not sure where you would start, but you could try calling MUS. They are very helpful over the phone. Also you could possibly do Alpha and Beta in one year. If Alpha is mostly review you can move at a quicker pace then go into Beta at a normal speed. My older dd needed help to solidify some concepts. We backed up to Epsilon and she covered that in about 4 or 5 months and we are almost finished with Zeta which she has also done in a few months. She will move on to Pre-Algebra in the fall.
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I was considering using LOE with my 7th grader for spelling. I was wondering about the grammar also, but I came to the conclusion from looking at the website that the grammar is very basic. I'm still undecided about using it for spelling, but I would definitely supplement the grammar or follow a plan like the above posters mentioned if I decided to use it.
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I read Stories of the Nations V 1 and Stories of America V 1 to my 7th grader at the beginning of this year. We just read 1 chapter a day. At first we were alternating between the two books, but I decided to read all of one and then all of the other. We enjoyed them both. We just read and discussed. It was sort of a supplement for us since we were doing other things/topics for history.
And I'm not sure if this will help any or not, but my dd is going to use SL Core H this upcoming school year (in the fall) and Core H uses SOTW 3 and 4.
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this is interesting, because I thought I heard once that you should always do D-F, and you can skip B and C if the child knows the skill. Hmmm...not sure which way I think is right? any thoughts on this??
I think this is probably correct. After thinking about it more, I'm sure I'm not remembering correctly. I believe it is important to do at least one of the review pages. I can also see this scenario that you mentioned working well as long as the child is understanding the new concept in the lesson.
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In Gamma, I ran into trouble not doing the D-F pages which include the systematic review. We just as many pages as Button needed to demonstrate mastery and he was moving very quickly; but he forgot some concepts because he hadn't been doing the reviews, and I needed to reteach them. I switched to always doing review pages -- if I think he's got the chapter skill down with a brief exposure, we start with D; if he needs practice, we practice with A but always do at least one of the D-F pages before moving on.
I think this is sound advice! Please forgive me, but I might have mis-quoted Mr. Demme or I'm just not remembering correctly. Upon thinking about it some more, I think it is unwise to skip all the review pages and I can't see Mr. Demme recommending that. I would agree that at least one review page needs to be completed each week.
I'm sorry for the confusion.
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So do you typically skip over D and F if she does understand?
If she understands we usually skip over C and F. However, I did hear Mr.Demme say that the child should do A-C for sure and then skip some of the review pages if understanding is there. I don't remember where I heard him say this, and when I did we had already established a schedule that was working well... skipping C and F as long as she was mastering the material.
We do all the pages if she is not grasping and needs more time with the material.
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with doing 2 pages on most days, if the pages have a lot of problems do you make them do all of them...or do you pick and choose? Especially if they understand the concept and doesn't need a ton of practice? I can see my kids crabbing at this one.
I make her do them all. It doesn't take long. Pages A, B, and C are all problems on the new material being taught in that lesson. Pages D, E, and F are a few new and review of previous concepts. So if you see my explanation above we only do A&D, and B&E then move on. We only do C and F if more practice is needed to master the concept.
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Day 1: Watch DVD together, dd works through A and D
Day 2: Dd works through B and E
Day 3: Watch next dvd lesson, dd works through A and D
Day 4: dd works through B and E
Day 5: Test on the two lessons
The above plan is what we usually use, doing 2 Lessons a week. However, if it's something my dd is not grasping or needs more work on we do only one lesson. On those weeks Day 4 would be C and F and Day 5 would be the test on that lesson. On some lessons we have had to spend longer than a week, we re-watch the dvd, use the TM to go over the problems, and print more practice pages from the MUS site.
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I have a question on the bolded part. Would it really be an issue to read more than what is assigned for the day. Would it kind of mess up some other subjects, like copywork or something else?
Yes, it throws off everything to read ahead. The copywork is part of the reading each day, so the copywork would be off. But as long as you don't mind copying something you read a while back, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. However, there are other assignments tied into the daily reading assignments. Sometimes the student is asked to make up 3 questions about the reading, or there's a history lesson tied into the reading, etc. Everything is tied to everything, that is why I found it difficult to leave things out or get off schedule. Now, we were frequently frustrated with the small amount of reading each day and often read ahead. Keep in mind that a book is scheduled to be read over 6 weeks though! So if you read ahead you will finish the book before you finish the rest of the work in the unit, unless you skip assignments.
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Thanks for sharing. I went over and looked and I loved what I saw. I plan on using this for my 3 year old in the fall.
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We have used TGTL the past 3 years. We spent 2 years on POE becuase we had so many other things going as well. We are finishing POS this year. After 3 years, my reviews are mixed and we are switching to Sonlight.
I had to tweak the curriculum A LOT and would often rewrite the 6 week unit into 4 weeks. It was simply too much time on a topic and we were bored. Another factor is our involvement in other things: a co-op where the girls take art, wrting and science classes. I ended up cutting these sections all together from POS. This series is very notebooking heavy - more than I initially realized. For my dyslexic/dysgraphic child, this simply is too frustrating. The spelling did not work for her either. Spelling is just a list of words from the current reader, not a real program, so we had to find different spelling. I found a lot of the suggested assignments to be "busy work", not educationally beneficial.
But, there were many parts that we liked:
POS copywork is important American documents and lyrics
Most of the readers (we skipped the Sower series on G. Washington - boring! and also Samuel Smith, simply due to shortage of time)
LOVED the state study/mapping - we love to travel
really enjoyed the period music selections throughout the year
great history lessons
enjoyed the Presidential studies
the cooking wasn't for us, but a lot of families would like it
We purchased the middle school supplement and really disliked it. I didn't like having to go back and forth from this document to the disc for some of work - it seemed very disjointed. The assigments were too easy and a lot of busy work as well. Total bust for us.
Overall, I would recommened TGTL for elemementary kids only, up to 6th grade. It would be a better fit for families that choose not to participate in other classes, co-op classes, etc. It has been challenging to make the program flex with our schedule, which is why I needed to rewrite so much of it. I've also said it would be better for families that live in an area where there aren't many opportunities for homeschoolers. It is a comprehensive program, which is what drew me to it in the first place. It does cover a lot of information but we found things we liked much better.
:iagree: I already responded to this thread earlier, but I had to say that I very much agree with your assessment and we are switching to Sonlight also.
We enjoyed the same things you liked and also found some of the Sower books boring. I, too, felt like there was a bit too much busy work in the program, and it is heavy on notebooking... as I mentioned above there are a TON of pages to print.
I wish it would have been a better fit, because I loved the idea behind it.
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You're not reading into things. I would start doing some checking in your shoes. Head over to the SN board and make a post about it. Just tell your situation and see what your options are. With a June birthday, yes she could repeat K5 this fall and be totally on track. However she may turn out to be more than 1 year behind. My ds is 3 and knows his numbers. When she's very different from the others and not hitting typical markers, it's time to start checking stuff. Yes there's a range of normal, but developmental markers they use for different ages account for that. You could be seeing something. Definitely follow up with it.
BTW, I take the time to do this on the boards because I had things I said about my dd for YEARS that no one caught. I would say things about what was happening when I taught her, what she couldn't do (coloring, sounding out words) and NOBODY took the time to tell me to get things checked. There's no benefit to waiting, not once they're old enough to be evaluated. You can make the appointment now and she can have a full eval. Or go through the ps. It takes several months to get into a neuropsych. Or your ped might refer you to a developmental ped. It just depends on what you're seeing. But waiting doesn't help, not once you know there's soemthing going on. They're *going* to continue to progress, absolutely, but it could be so far off the curve, you need to know what's going on. And sometimes when you get those evals you find things you can work on. (speech, OT, eyes) It's not an endless money pit, even though it feels like it. You get the evals so you have the power to decide what to do about it.
Thanks OhE. We actually had a doctor's appointment today so I talked to her doctor. He gave me a number to call, and I think I'll also pop in over on the SN board when things calm down here. (This child is having dental surgery tomorrow.) I'm not too sure that her doctor knew exactly what to recommend, as far as how to proceed for an evaluation. So experience from ladies who have been there and done that will be very helpful.
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If this dc is 5, she's a very young K5 student. When is her birthday? My dd has a late April birthday, and honestly when she was that age I always felt like she took a leap around Christmas. So it might be that if you started the K5 material over *now* she'd do better. And it might be you're seeing hints of something (LD, developmental delay, whatever) that is going to be an issue in the future. More review wouldn't help what you're experiencing, just saying. You can't rush development.
She will be 6 in June. It could very well be what you suggested, just a developmental delay. I have considered just re-doing the BJU K and see how things go. Ironically, my 3 year old is ahead of her in so many areas. I don't know, this child is just so different from my other children. I've been trying to just wait and see... trying not to diagnose her because perhaps she's just a late bloomer.
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Ok, clearly I'm confused on what mastery, incremental, and spiral actually mean. Truthfully, I'm not really sure what my dd (age 5) needs. She struggles with concepts. BJU was not working for her because she needed more review, I guess. We were using the K program and there is not an extra review book for that level, and I think that would have helped had it been available. Perhaps she does need more of a spiral approach but I'm not sure about that because I think too many concepts thrown at her at once would spell disaster. With BJU we would talk about shapes for a while, then the shapes would disappear and come back some lessons later. By then she had forgotten which shapes were what. But I think it's just this child, as I said earlier, she might have a learning disability going on. Also we were all over the book in K, she could not learn the names of any numbers over 10 (even confuses 0-10 sometimes) and there are a lot of lessons in BJU dealing with that before doing simple addition (which she can do just fine). So we had to skip all over the workbook to fit her ability and keep her from becoming frustrated with what she could not understand.
On the other hand, BJU has been a perfect fit for my 7 year old. She gets concepts very quickly, and has not needed the extra review book.
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LOE's 9 reasons...:001_huh:
I don't think they need the extra 4, but whatever. I also don't think the 5 that Spalding also teaches are worded as clearly as Spalding's rules.
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Thank you so much for responding. It is nice to know that it is working well for your families. It seems I had heard people say there wasn't enough review, but spiral means lots of review, right?
I do feel that is has a good bit of review. I think it's just my daughter, maybe she needs more of a mastery approach. With my 7 year old it is plenty review. Also starting in 1st grade BJU sells an extra review workbook, if you need it. Although I purchased it, my 7 year old has not needed it. I wish they had an extra review book for K, that might have helped my other dd.
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We like it! :) I used it with one of my children for K and then we switched to Horizons. That was years ago, that same child is now 7th grade. I wish I would have kept her in BJU but I listened to others and wanted "rigorous". Everyone was raving about Horizons back then.
Now I've used BJU K last year and we're currently on lesson 105 in BJU 1st grade with my 7 year old. She loves it. She really likes the story lines. I like the teacher helps. The TM is great.. full of ideas for teaching, review, and extra activities to provide more practice if needed. I don't do everything in the teacher's manual but I do use a large portion of it. I have switched out manipulatives on the fly, etc. It's working very well for us.
However, I also tried BJU K with my 5 year old. It hasn't been the best fit for her, but I think it's because there's a possible learning disorder going on. She struggles with things, so I'm considering trying another program with her. I think it just moves too quickly through concepts and she needs a bit more review.
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Well I haven't read SOTW 3 or 4, but we read both SCM's Stories of the Nations and Stories of America at the beginning of this year. I read a chapter a day out loud to my 7th grader and then we did some discussion or I had her do a narration. We both enjoyed it. I plan on getting the next volumes when they are available.
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Thanks for posting this. I plan to buy AAR 1 soon. :) My girls loved Ziggy in the Pre-level.
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Thanks Susie, glad to know I'm not alone. I feel the same way. I tweak everything we have ever used, but I just didn't see how I could make TOG work for us.
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True, however :), since we are homeschoolers we don't have to follow the "mold" do we? Just because in her video she has the reading in two days doesn't mean you have too. :) I plan on stretching it out over the week. It will make it much easier!
Yes, you are right. I guess it's just me. I can't get over the fact that I'm not doing it the way it was supposed to be done...lol. It's just my personality, and I am terrible at making decisions which is why TOG was such a struggle for me.
I hope it works out for you. :)
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