Sounds good. My youngest is 8 and she watches everything that I would never let my oldest watch at the at age. :glare: She'll probably be fine with it.

Thanks for your input! That's pretty much what I was looking for too. I don't want in-depth literary analysis of those books with the Baldwin book. Just a way to introduce the kids to worldview.

Thank you!! Just the info I needed. I'm looking forward to studying these books. :001_smile:

Thanks. I am a Christian so overt is fine with me. :)

For those of you using this book, how do you use it? I know Worldview Academy recommends it, and I bought it at convention this year. I also know many of you use it w/Frankenstein and Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde, but which one do you read first? Second? Would I need a guide to walk us through how these books relate? I've not read any of the three.

Would the movie be appropriate for all audiences? I've heard of this one--didn't know it was about WW.

Can anyone recommend something for teens about this man? An engaging book or movie? What is your favorite?

Thanks for the ideas. Keep them coming! I like the idea of a book of their choice. We have done the Barnes and Noble summer program before, but the kids had to choose from just a few books, and they didn't like the choices, or already owned the books offered.

What learning styles, specifically, is this program best for?

Good question. No, her handwriting is fine. She will sometimes write letters backwards (b and d) and sometimes (p instead of a 9), but that's it. When she reads "was and saw" she confuses them often. But she never WRITES them backward. Wouldn't she be having trouble with math too if it were a vision problem? She has NO trouble with math.

Thanks everyone for the continued encouragement. I will look into a DO here in my area. It sure wouldn't hurt to have her eyes tested anyway. Would a DO also do the same tests that another optometrist might do--in addition to the other things he would be looking for? I know her distance vision is good, but don't know about her close up vision.

Just reading this part of your reply again. I read some reviews of this book, and it gets good reviews. It may be just the trick for her. I don't see the book for free anywhere though, nor does my library have it. I wouldn't mind buying it if I knew it would work. Anyway, thanks again.

Mmm... thanks for the head's up on the OG book. I will check into that too.

Yeah, I keep hearing about the vision thing and maybe we should have here eyes tested.... Got to get dh on board first. This has been very helpful. Thank you for your reply. I will check out the book you mentioned right now.

My youngest dd turned 8 in January. She is finishing up the second grade, but she is still struggling through her first grade phonics books. She reads words backwards, she still mixes up letters--"b" and "d" always, and sometimes p and q, m and n,... She always mixes up "was and saw". She will get help and play mixed up if they are used on the same page. She writes her nines as p's. She struggles to memorize things like the months of the year or days of the week--she's almost got those, but forgets without regular practice. She will sound out words but cannot recognize sight words even though we've used pictures and color ala Diane Craft. She often makes up words to make the story say what she thinks it should say. She will often replace a word with similar meanings--like she will read "bucket" as "basket". She gets tired of reading after about three pages of her first grade Pathway Reader. She yawns and her eyes water and she starts looking to see how much is left of the story. (Just things I remember off hand) She CAN memorize scripture and loves to recite poetry--especially if it rhymes. She almost never misses a problem in math. Her school desk is a mess--she loves to "create" and her creations are everywhere. The funny thing is that she has a high vocabulary and almost never forgets a person's name. When the family can't think of someone's name, we ask my youngest and she always knows. So, could this be dyslexia or is she still too young to know? What in the world do people use to teach their child to read if they have dyslexia? If you've read this far, thank you. We (dd and I) are very frustrated. Dh won't hear of having any testing done. He doesn't like labels or testing. He thinks the reading will come in time. :confused:

I've made a list of books for my kids to read this summer. They will need to finish the list or have consequences for not doing so. But, I wanted to reward their efforts to make it different and fun for the summer. I just need some more ideas for prizes for each book finished. I wanted smaller prizes for the first few books and larger prizes for say the last three. My oldest three can have the same prizes, but I will need to adjust somewhat the prizes for my youngest as well as my reading expectations for her. Really finding prizes for my teens is the toughest. Our summer library program is terrible--budget cuts, ya know? Here's what I have so far: 1. Icee from 7Eleven 2. Ice cream cone 3. Dollar store gift 4. max $5 gift from store of your choice 5. candy bar of your choice 6. lunch w/mom or dad at favorite fast food place 7. friend to sleep over/playdate with friend 8. zoo trip w/friend

Finally have a new post up. Here.

We used it through grade 7 and then stopped. It works--an excellent program and very thorough, but we couldn't take another book. I thought, "Well, they've had plenty of grammar and have a great foundation, so it will be fine to stop here." I let my oldest quit grammar after the 8th grade. Then, I noticed she started forgetting how to punctuate correctly in her papers. So, I bought the Easy Grammar Ultimate Series and plan on having each child go through those books every year until graduation after they've finished Rod and Staff through at least grade 7. Dd's forgetfulness disappeared after having her start the series this year. I think SWB's recommendation is a good one because kids just plain start forgetting stuff.

Has anyone used the ones called Learning History Through Living Books? What did you think of them? I just ran across them in my Rainbow catalog and am having trouble finding much else out about them.

I'll check my library, and thanks for the heads up about the extra study questions. :)

Thanks for these suggestions. Lori D. mentions "Know What You Believe", "Know Why You Believe" listed above too. So, what I keep hearing about these books are, "They are good, but are becoming outdated." So, I assume they are good and worth reading, but why the caveat that they are outdated? Are they maybe not something teens would like? Will my teens dismiss them because of that? Just trying to decide if I should give them a serious look.

Thanks for the suggestions! My kids get systematic theology in their 7th and 8th grade Sunday school class at our church. I feel pretty lucky there.

Lori, Thank you for this FABULOUS list!! I put my comments in red above. I have a few questions up there if you have any time--or if anyone else has a comment. I tried to comment on the few that we have already read too, just in case that would help someone else reading this thread. Most of the titles, I just plain haven't heard of. I'm excited to look into them. Thanks again, Lori. You're a gem!!

I'm trying to make a list of worldview/spiritual/practical books that I would like my rising 9th and 11th graders to read before they graduate. Please comment on any of these that you thought were especially worthwhile or a waste of time for your student. I would also LOVE to have some more suggestions. Here's what I have so far: 1. Lord, Is It Warfare? by Kay Arthur 2. I Kissed Dating Good-bye by Josh Harris 3. Do Hard Things Josh Harri 4. Mere Christianity CS Lewis 5. Choosing Gratitude Nancy Leigh DeMoss 6. How to Be Your Own Selfish Pig 1. Whatever Happened to Penny Candy Uncle Eric 2. What Ever Happened to Justice? Uncle Eric 3. Are You Liberal? Conservative? Or Confused? Uncle Eric 4. The Accounting Game Judith Orloff

Okay, makes sense. Thanks to you both for your input. I think I'll put that one on our list. I should have known that Christian themes would get largely left out of a movie version. :)