Pat in MI
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Hi Everyone,
How do you get your students to annotate? My dd hates, hates to write in books. I guess it is after years of being told "don't write in the books". I think part of it is she doesn't want to take the time to take notes. What are some tips you have used to get them doing this. Have you gone through the book with them and pointed out things they maybe should have annotated?? I'm having a hard time with this too because I never did this in school or college. Any tips welcomed!
Blessings,
Pat
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I responded in the other thread, but wanted to say do not attempt to do both levels in writing. One level is enough for a year because both levels do similar things. We did skip level 9 and it was okay, but maybe you want to look what is covered in level 9 and 10 and see what might be different between the levels. I think on the Essentials in Writing website it tells how to do both the literature and writing in a year. If you wanted to do the Level 9 literature maybe you could skip the book she already read and just skim through the information she was to learn from that book. HTH
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Just a note about Essentials in Writing. I followed the recommendation by Heart of Dakota of skipping Level 9 and moved my daughter right into Level 10 this year for 9th. She did fine with it. I saw very little difference between Level 8 and 10. If your daughter completed Level 8 with little difficulty you can probably skip 9 and put her in Level 10 so she is at grade level rather than doing both levels next year.
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I have a smart phone that uses Tracphone minutes. Just need the correct sim card for the phone.
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This year just math (maybe an hour a day) and working on physical fitness for P.E. credit.
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Schools would have averaged the two semesters together for a final grade in the class. He would pass but the grade would be very low. Not sure it would be fair to change it or drop it, so he maintains his gpa. I would have him do the work or some of it so you can assign a better grade.
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Our local school uses the title "Healthy Lifestyles".
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I would agree Animal Science or Agricultural and Botany or Horticulture. One credit or 1/2 credit depending on the amount of hours/work done.
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Reading through the BJU Literature is a thought, but it will take a while to get through it. There are a lot of stories in there. My dd is finishing this up now and I'm letting her read the stories and answer the questions with help from the teacher book, but it is still taking a while to get through. Since this is only for 9th grade credit, I think go through one more book with a guide, read a couple more books call it good, maybe write narrations for the last two books. Not just a re-cap of the book narration, but with more of his feelings toward the book or setting or theme or a persuasive essay about why something/someone in the book was good or not good.
My son did public school high school and read maybe two books in a year, had free reading books, and composition. I think you are doing fine. You have 3 more years to expand on literary analysis.
Blessings,
Pat
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Congratulations retiring Moms! I hope what comes next in your lives is awesome!!
Blessings,
Pat
P.S. Don't forget to pop back in on occasion and share your wisdom with the rest of us who are still trying to navigate these high school years. Would love to hear how things are going for you too.
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I seem to recall someone on here had this same dilemma once and they recreated a day in the life of a public school child. Get her up at 5:30 (well it would be that here) to get ready. In your childs case to walk the mile to the bus stop alone without you there (or at least a good pace behind her). Pick her up bring her home, have her sit at her desk, no talking, raise your hand, hall pass for the bathroom, can get up and walk around 5 minutes between classes, half hour lunch (can even feed her a cafeteria style lunch), back to work. Drive her back to the bus stop and have her walk home. Might give her an idea that school isn't going to be as glamorous as she might think.
Blessings,
Pat
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I can tell you my experience with my son. He was my energy draining child too. He chose to go to school in 9th grade and yes it improved our relationship and made home school better for younger dd. It did, however, mess with the home school schedule because of getting him to the bus stop and picking him up and the many days the school has off would screw us up too. I thought the accountability to someone else would motivate him more but, he did not change his attitude toward school. He still was an unmotivated student in most of his classes. There were a few classes that he really liked and would apply himself a little more, but not many. He did have some very good teachers that had a passion for their subject and this made the students connect and learn a lot, but also there were teachers that were utter failures. He learned very little math at school, he pretty much stalled in this area after algebra due to (imho) bad teaching and lack of interest. The school had a just read the book theory and very little actual teaching and ds would not seek out additional help in, this, his worst subject. He wouldn't ask for help at home for this either. You are right when you said they can get overlooked in ps setting because ds did and used it to his advantage to slide through in some subjects. Some other things that were drawbacks were the fact he had to take so many electives to fill in his schedule after the core classes were done. He didn't find many he was very interested in. Overall, he did well with school and says he liked it better than homeschooling, but not sure that is entirely true as he will still pop in and see what we are doing in school. And the big question, would I do it again knowing what I know now?? Probably because it did make home better and relationships better. Home became his comfort zone because he could separate school and home. We (the parents) became his, well friends, instead of the dictators he previously thought us. I do wish we would have done more for him in the math area. That is my one looking back regret. I don't know what your child is like, but ours took a I'm doing this on my own attitude and wouldn't let us help. I wish we would have told him we are helping in this subject (math) , whether it caused a ripple in our calm waters or not. There is good and bad in everything just need to decide which is going to be good in your situation. HTH
Blessings,
Pat
P.S. Due dates meant nothing to my ds. He would turn in assignments in the classes he liked and skate by in the ones he didn't. He basically would figure out how much he needed to do to pass a class he didn't like and that was all he would do. He did not strive for an A even though he could have gotten one.
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I picked geography because I was trying to follow HOD's recommendations in starting with geography. I knew that program would be too overwhelming for my dd. Anyway, to do it differently, I would definitely pick a different geography. (No idea which one ) I have been adding to the program . She is reading Around the World in Eighty Days, doing additional map work - memorizing where the countries are, Also, I'm going to add in youtube videos about geography, and I am going to add current events, so she is pulling together all of the parts - physical geography, human geography, etc. Yes, I will call this one full credit because I know it is way more than her brother had in ps. HTH
Blessings,
Pat
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In our state, geography is included in American History and World History courses. So the transcript would read American History and Geography which really means they do map work along with the history studies. In MI students only need 3 social studies credits (American History & Geography, World History & Geography, Government/Economics) We are in the same position you are in; using Northstar Geography and not liking it. I am either going to add more to it as we finish out the year or just make sure geography is added to dd's history studies.
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History can be studied from many different angles. When my ds was in school (public schooled high school), he took a class that was called American Conflicts. The class was all about the wars the United States has been in, starting with the Revolutionary War and up. They watched movies, read various books, had projects, and reports to do. It was a very good American History course because in studying the wars they were also studying what events were happening leading up to each war. So maybe you could do a different wars through history type course.
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May I jump in here and ask, does EIL give writing instruction or should the student have had instruction in essay writing or __________ before using it?
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Thank you everyone! :001_smile:
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I do have a personal list going, but the question would be concerning college applications. I wasn't sure if you make a reading list of all books read including the ones assigned in a certain class (i.e. history) or just ones they read outside of classes. I ask the question because if you do a course description you would also list books read for a class. (Wouldn't you??)
Thanks for the answers!
Blessings,
Pat
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Thank you Angie!
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When making a list of all of the literature your student has read do you list everything? I mean do you list things read that were included in an English class or History class or would this just be things read beyond school subjects?
Thank you.
Pat
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I have only looked a little at Excellence in Literature so not sure what that program is like. I know HOD is written to be used more independently, but not to say you couldn't have more in depth discussions on the books. I know what you mean though while I think HOD is a good program, I'm not in love with the BJU portion of the literature, but that is where we are learning the terms and such of literary analysis. The next levels of the programs do not use BJU, so may be a more natural approach. We have only used the World Geography guide so not sure what is required in the next levels. I am also looking at other programs to see if there is something we will enjoy more.
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My dd is doing Literature and writing from the World Geography guide this year. In this guide you alternate between doing Bob Jones Literature and reading novels. Bob Jones is teaching the literature analysis terms and questions. When you read the books they are doing oral narrations, written narrations, common place book enteries, and a student led discussion. I think the writing program is good. My dd sometimes complains, but that is because she is a natural writer and doesn't like to follow a certain guideline, but it is necessary when writing the papers in this program. Overall, a good program although my daughter has a hard time keeping up with the reading as she is a slower reader.
How to get your student to annotate...
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Thank you for the ideas. I did get relatively cheap books so maybe that will help her feel better about writing in books. I am going to run your ideas by her the sticky notes, separate notebook, and the small symbols maybe one of them will click with her.
Blessings,
Pat