Denise Allen
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I think that there have already been lots of posts about people loving MCT.
I have only recently heard of this. I have searched on here and have not found a whole lot about it. Maybe some of the posts were not tagged?
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We have 4 of the books and for some reason we just don't like them. They writing topics seemed silly lots of the time (like imagine the library is floating, the books, etc.). We did pick a few things out of it though- like narrative voice, passive voice...
I guess, since they are fairly inexpensive, you could always buy one and see for yourself...
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Share what you loved or hated that you have tried...
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Share what you loved or hated.
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For those of you that use Rod & Staff-
I understand they cover diagramming quite a bit (which I like). Currently we use Abeka which covers it too, pretty well.
One thing I am looking for (not sure if even R & S does this) is a book/text that actually explains diagramming. I mean more about how to use it as a diagnostic- if your sentence isn't right, how you can use diagramming to help solve it. Am I making sense??
My kids can diagram well, I just want them to learn how to actually apply it to their writing. That is the one thing I feel Abeka is lacking. Maybe they all lack this, and you need an English/Grammar teacher.... lol
COLLEEN- can you answer this??? :D
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Thank you Joan! I just finished listening to the Middle school lecture. VERY helpful! I realize a good bit of it is in her book, but somehow hearing it is more helpful. lol
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Do you think this could be used with an 8th grader? Is it too difficult in your opinion?
(I posted on the Hschool group as well)
Thank you!
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Do you think it can be used with an 8th grader? I am not sure how difficult it is.
Thanks for any help. :)
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Does anyone know if her suggestions for rhetoric in the 3rd edition are the same as the suggestions in the 2nd edition? I only have the 2nd. I am wondering if I should get the newest edition?
Thanks, Colleen! I spend about an hour last night reading more tagged posts on this topic and read many helpful ones from you. Thanks for all your great advice on here!
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Gosh thanks everyone for jumping in! So far though only one person directly answered my question about whether or not R&S alone is enough for writing instruction/practice in hs. My dc are planning on going to college so I definitely want them to be more than up-to-par on their writing. So any more want to answer, please? What would be a good way to round out the writing if more is needed?
Joan in Geneva, yes you are correct that my freshman is on schedule to do the 7th grade level, and my sophomore is on schedule to do the 8th grade level this year. I have never heard of the Bravewriter course your son took but I'll look into it. Would that be a good course to bring in on the side to beef up the writing? I guess I could have the kiddos do both R&S and Bravewriter (or something else) alongside each other. Do you think it would work?
Thanks everyone for your input. As usual someone always comes through on this board! And yes I am definitely also looking into SWB audio lectures. Anyone know if her suggestions are easy to implement? Sorry. I don't mean to sound ignorant or stupid but all I have so far is her book. Thanks again everyone!
Blessings,
~Libby in Texas :)
Sorry, Libby. I think I rather hijacked your post. I got so excited when I saw someone had just posted about Rod & Staff as I am looking to purchase it...
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Just downloaded and can't wait to listen!
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By the way, this group is great! I have gotten so much help from everyone, and I appreciate it!
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My kids do a lot alone, but I am aware of the ones that need more attention. It sounds like you would just like a little communication (understandable). Maybe you could just nicely share with your mom that you would appreciate that extra time with her if she could try to work it out. :)
We do want to work toward independent work, but no one wants to work on an island alone.
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Thanks! I will purchase them & try to listen off my computer since my mp3 player is broken. I have SWB's Writing With Ease. I appreciate the ideas for younger children- I just need more guidance with the upper grades.
Thanks again!
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Yes, they are only Mp3. I just listened to them on my laptop while I folded laundry (7 dc = lots of time to do that!). I kept paper & pencil, plus the outlines found here handy:
http://www.welltrainedmind.com/workshops-handouts/
GardenMom
I am slow when it comes to computers, etc. So I could download the Mp3 lectures to my computer and just listen from there?
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Thanks GardenMom! Your info was very helpful!! This is such a hard decision for me! I appreciate your information about the sale.
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I have used R&S for years. I think it is a wonderful grammar program, and use it for 3rd-10th, on grade level. I also like and have my dc do most of the writing exercises. We tend to skip the book reports and poetry writing in favor of literary analysis and just poetry analysis (which is quite good in R&S).
I use more writing in addition to R&S. We've tried (many!) other programs with good results, but I always seem to have to most success using Susan Wise Bauer's suggestions. A good place to start for ideas is The Well-Trained Mind, and even more I highly recommend that you purchase and download SWB's three lectures on writing, and one lecture on literary analysis. I listened to these a couple of times each this summer, and took notes. It was time and money well spent. While I always recommend buying SWB's WTM to support our website hostess, you can borrow it from the library. The lectures only cost $16 for all. SWB recommends other resources for writing in the WTM and her lectures, but these are all reusable and not terribly expensive.
GardenMom
Are these lectures on Mp3 only?? My mp3 player is not working and I would so like to listen to these w/out buying another one right now.
My daughter is 8th grade this year (great in grammar), by son is 7th (decent in grammar). If I were to switch them to R & Staff what book would you suggest they start in? It would be nice if they could work from the same book. Not sure if that would be possible.
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I came on here to ask about this same topic. We have used Abeka language from the beginning- my oldest is now 8th grade. I am looking at Rod & Staff because their writing exercises are better (from what I hear).
I too am curious about using it with my kids next year. They will be 9th and 8th grade then.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the first poster and myself? What do you think about R & S for the upper grades??
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please.... I need your help! LOL
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TOTALLY off school topic.
I want to dye my hair, but not using a store bought kit. I want to purchase from a beauty supply store. Anyone with experience have any suggestions as to which brand, etc. My hair used to be blonde, but as I have gotten older (40) and had children it as changed to dark blonde or really light brown.
Thanks for any help~
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I ended up googling it a few days ago to figure it out. I had to change a setting on my mp3 for my Mac to recognize it' date=' but it worked. It seemed like I lost some of my MP3 control doing it that way. (some of the features didn't work).[/quote']
I will look into that. Maybe I just need to buy an ipod~ I am sure it would download easy then. Gives me an excuse to buy one....:D
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I believe there is a plan to do this. Early in the summer she asked for 5th grade volunteers to try out some of the lessons when they were ready. I don't think those lessons have been distributed yet to those who volunteered.
Thank you!
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Do you have iTunes installed? Should just be a matter of clicking to download... then when you open the file it opens up in your iTunes.
I do have itunes. I have tried to download there, but it never shows.
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I am new to Mac and have a MacBook Pro. I can't figure out how to download to my Mp3. I want to order Susan's writing downloads, but not if I can't access them.
Can anyone tell me how to do it??
Rod & Staff writing enough for high school?
in High School and Self-Education Board
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Thanks again, Colleen! I want to make sure I have this right- do you plan to have your children do the 9th & 10th Rod and Staff at the same time as the rhetoric suggestions by SWB?
I did look at the R & S 9-10th book samples online and liked what I saw.
I promise- I will bug you no more! ;)