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Rod and Staff?
Professor B e-mailed me the answer keys to the workbooks. So I guess they have started processing my order. I hope it gets here soon.
Yes. These are what my dd is currently using to supplement her summer math (CWP/IP 4 and LOF Fractions) before she begins Singapore 5A in the fall.
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Go to the Classical Composition website:http://classicalcomposition.com/ and scroll to the bottom. There are two good articles, plus a bibliography for more reading about the progym that includes Aristotle, Augustine, D'Angelo, and Corbett (the latter two being the modern authors I see as recommended reading most frequently for the progym/rhetoric). I'm hoping to read through at least the first three myself this summer...we'll see. ;)
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I have been a huge Rightstart fan in the past. I love the mental math aspect, especially with the addition. I find *I* can add in my head much more quickly after learning some new strategies! But my kids never really mastered the multiplication tables and they are so....slow....about doing problems.
Yes, this is the one weakness I've seen in RS is my older dd struggled with mastering her math facts. But, I think if we'd played the games more often, this wouldn't have been an issue. Plus, she's my dyslexic girl and would have had trouble with them no matter what we had done! (We're still working on them! :glare:) Since my younger kids have their siblings to play with instead having to rely on boring ole mom ;), I'm hoping they'll get to fluency with their facts through the games. I will also likely add in the R&S drill booklets, as I finally have done with dd10. Cheap and painless, and makes ME feel better. ;)
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A tip for those who would like to use Singapore but worry about place value... Using a 100 chart daily, with straws and coins (bundling the straws into tens, replacing smaller value coins with equivalent larger value coins) everyday is what both my older two had for place value, and they are rock solid in it. My oldest did Saxon K in school, where they have the morning meeting that does this stuff. I've never had to deal with place value when it came up in our math program, and he's always demonstrated clear understanding of place value when learning new things (like standard algorithm for the 4 operations)... right down to figuring out on his own that when you're multiplying by 24, when you get to the 2, you're multiplying by 20. I've replicated that 100 chart stuff they did in Saxon with my DS2, and while he started out not even being able to count much past 10, he now is very solid in place value and is figuring out adding tens and ones separately, etc.
So while Singapore hasn't taught the place value to my kids, a simple use of 100 chart, straws, and coins has worked wonders, and it was a whole lot cheaper than Rightstart. :D (which I did try and later sold) I have no doubt that DS2 will do great with Singapore 1A/1B this coming year, fully understanding the place value involved, especially as we do the activities in the HIG. And if you weren't using the HIG, I recommend using it.
BTDT with Singapore and extra manipulatives...twice. But unfortunately (:tongue_smilie:), nothing else I've used matches RS in this area.
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I'm reading The Latin Centered Curriclulum. I just ordered from the WTB board and it will be my first time to read it!
I have done WTM cycles all along. We are in our logic stage and we are also reading some great books together. I use a literature based history curriculum. My children HATE history now. They liked it when they were younger and learning everything for the first time. They also loved American history with lots of picture books and chosen classics. I think it is because I have SOOOO many books that they could never read them all. They always feel "behind" bc there is always another book to read. I bought the Famous Men flashcard sets - they have retained a lot. Their notebooks look great and thorough. I think I just overkill the subject.
These are there favorite subject in order:
Latin
Science/Math
They constantly say they want the time to add Greek and Hebrew. They would rather have a textbook for history, read classics (not based on history), and focus their time on languages, math and science. Ack! So, I'm rethinking. I want to streamline history for them so they can pursue their passions...
It sounds like your kids would really enjoy an LCC-style education, then, with the addition of more science resources. The Famous Men books are used as the only history selection in 3-6 grade. Of course, one hour per day of reading classic, good books is strongly suggested as well. :)
What edition did you buy?
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I use Singapore for upper elementary, and I plan to continue through 6B (my dd is currently in 5A), as well as use it for the other kiddos. Now, I'm not sure WHEN I'll switch over to Singapore with the next two kids...we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
(But, of couse, many people use Singapore from 1a on up and their kids do brilliantly with it. Maybe I just need that extra help as a teacher that RS gives, or some of the lessons and activities spelled out for me. :blush:)
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RS is not my favorite thing to teach either.
My oldest started out with Singapore and we completed most of the 1A workbook, but the understanding for her was not there. Quite skeptically, I switched to RS and we ended up completing B and C. I am amazed at how effective RS is in producing understanding, particularly in the concept of place value.
When my ds became ready for formal math, I started with Singapore (hoping that because I felt like I was a better teacher that I could "do" with the less-intensive program). Nope. He was getting the concepts and could answer the questions and fill out the workbooks, but I could tell that deep understanding that my dd had had with RS was not there. So...we're back to RS. Am I thrilled to be teaching it again? No. But I know that it will be the best for him in the long run.
The abacus is a brilliant manipulative, especially when you start using Side 2. And I love the way the warm-ups review, but also build up to concepts so that by the time they're fully introduced, there is no big conceptual leap.
I've tried many other maths for early grades (MM, MEP, Miquon, CLE, Saxon) and I keep coming back to RS. In the fall I'll add my younger dd, and therefore will be teaching two kiddos in different places in RS B. :willy_nilly: So, no, I don't love teaching RS, but I love the results.
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I would like to finish Climbing Parnassus. There is something about this book that makes it difficult for me to read when I'm distracted, which is pretty much all the time. Sigh.
Yes. To all of this.
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I'm re-reading The Latin Centered Curriculum and the Logic stage section of the Well Trained Mind right now while I'm in planning mode.
Others on my list include:
The Great Tradition: Classic Readings On What It Means to be an Educated Human Being by Richard Gamble
Building the Christian Academy by Arthur Holmes
The Education of a Daughter by Archbishop Fenelon
There are some others I wanted to read but I need to study quite a bit this summer to stay ahead of my dd in both Latin and Greek.:gnorsi:
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Please, fix this!!!!
The search function hasn't worked right in over six months (maybe a year?), and now it rarely works at all!
I love these forums, but this search issue is frustrating. :glare:
I still miss when we used to be able to put in two terms in the search box and it would only find threads that contained them both. Those were the days. :001_wub:
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Yes, we're back around to Ancients. I went with the DE also. I was going to buy just the first unit, but I ended up getting the whole year. For one, I prefer to plan a semester at a time instead of just 9 weeks, but also I got more freebies when I bought the entire year through the buying guide (plus the small discount). :tongue_smilie: Our nearest library is not all that near, so I like to buy all my books. When I added up all the books I'll want to buy, it only came to $200! :)
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Here's the subjects I'm planning on for our 5th grade.
Our Core Subjects
-Latin
-Math
-Composition (using a curriculum + writing from history, science, and current events)
Our supplements
-Grammar
-Spelling
-History (including Geography)
-Literature (including Poetry)
-Science
-Art (I WILL make time for this this year :rolleyes:)
-Greek
-Logic (informally)
-Catechism
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I hope it's doable to schedule all that with TOG because that's what we'll be doing, except Greek instead of Spanish! I've already got a rough schedule going, making sure that my time frames are roughly similar to my model curricula--WTM, LCC, and Memoria Press.
I have kids who will be in similar levels--1 in UG/D and 2 in LG. I used TOG with my oldest when she was in 1st, fizzled out, then tried it again in 2nd, and am glad to be able to go back to it now that we're entering a stage where TOG is more useful. I already have much of the LG lit for YR 1 so I'm going to go ahead and buy both UG and D literature because in looking through the selections, the D level is more what my dd is currently reading. And it's all I can do to keep enough books around for her!
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We're GF because my son was diagnosed with Celiac Disease 6.5 years ago when he was 18 months. That led to testing for the rest of the family, where my oldest dd and I were both found to have gluten intolerance. We've been 100% GF since, except for my dh who keeps a stash of cereal, bread and crackers on the top shelf. :)
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Thanks for the replies. Yeah, when I went back to the GP website I noticed the book was only like 56 pages or something. I think I'm going to go ahead and order the Athenaze materials and look through them over the summer. Maybe by then Memoria Press will have come out with their First Form Greek and I can take a peek at it before I decide. FFG is supposed to prepare students for reading both Koine and Classical I believe.
If Athenaze proves to look like more than what I'm willing for dd to try to tackle this year, I may just go with EG for a time. I was hoping to have a chance to take an online class that uses Athenaze myself before dd got into it too far anyway. Plus, upon thinking more about it, I think dd would really benefit from taking either the CLRC's online course for Athenaze in 7th, or Lukeion's (is the minimum age for Lukeion's for 7th or 9th graders?)
Allearia, what online books are you looking at? I tried searching for some on Google books the other day but couldn't find anything that looked appropriate.
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Our most recent family read-aloud was The Enormous Egg. All three kiddos (10, 8, and 5) loved it.
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I just posted a question about this in the logic stage forum. Right now, for classical Greek, I'm looking at Galore Park's program, Classical Greek for Beginners for dd10 for next year. That's the only thing I'm aware of besides Athenaze, an upper level text.
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Who has used Galore Park's Greek program, Classical Greek for Beginners, and what are your thoughts on it? Is it appropriate for a 5th grader?
I'm planning on gently starting dd10 on Greek in the fall. She wanted to start it this year for 4th but I wanted to wait in order to get another good year of Latin under her belt. I would like to eventually move her into Athenaze and our long-term goal is Attic rather than Koine (although facility with Koine would be a wonderful benefit) so I've been eyeing Galore Park's program, Classical Greek for Beginners.
I really like the look of Elementary Greek but I wonder how much of a problem it would be to use EG, a Koine program, for maybe two years and then move into Athenaze? Otherwise, I'm thinking we'll do Greek Code Cracker and CGfB this year and then start Athenaze slowly in 6th. Thoughts?
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I thought Freed had some great ideas but I needed something more concrete if it was going to get done around here. AAS didn't work here either, but we are having success with Apples and Pears. Dd tested into around lesson 60 of Book A last year when she was 9 so that's where we started. We're getting close to the end of Book B and my hope is that we might be able to finish out the series by the end of next year (5th grade). The good thing is there is nothing "babyish" in the texts, even in A so it's good for older children.
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She really never talked about it, so I guess she didn't miss it. We actually finished up LL last January and then RedSquirrel gave me the review idea last year and we used that. She tested through LL until she made less than 85%, I think it was, and then I reprinted just the lesson's worksheets. But that only took her about two months. I haven't even thought about going back to LL2 because I think we have a good thing going with the Form/VL combo and I foresee this taking us through the next 3 years at least, when we should be close to finishing up the grammar.
I guess for her learning Latin itself is the exciting thing--she has enjoyed whatever curriculum I've put in front of her. She knows how much she's learned and has a great sense of accomplishment. Not to mention the brain-training! But I would not stress too much on feeling like you're not moving ahead quick enough--not saying you're doing this, just reflecting on my feelings at this time last year. They're so young with so many more years of learning Latin ahead of them. So based on my experience with this dc, I think a great foundation that gives confidence and a facility with the language is more important to their enjoyment than a "fun" curriculum.
Good luck with a tough decision!
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You've probably read some of the threads where I was dealing with the same issue last year. My dd was the same age at the time. We ended up going with First Form coupled with Visual Latin. They were a great combination but if you're not wanting to be as Latin-centered as we were, either of those programs are wonderful. As much as we love Visual Latin, though, I would probably give FF a slight edge for your situation just because it ramps up more slowly and provides more practice on the topics. I don't know how I would feel about using VL as a stand-alone for a dc that young. We've continued with Classical pronunciation, with me doing the teaching, so we're not using the DVDs or CD which makes FF even more affordable. FF has been just the right amount of review and new material for a fourth grader to really get a great foundation in Latin.
I'm wanting to eventually be able to supplement the Form series with Lingua Latina, and in fact, dd has done a couple of chapters already for fun (we have the CD Rom) since she's past the recommended point in VL (per the aforementioned schedule correlating VL and Lingua). This summer we will have a few chapters to finish up in FF and then after that I'll have her work solely in VL and Lingua until we're ready for Second Form in the fall. Then I'll have her continue to work slowly through the VL/LL combo alongside SF. If she didn't enjoy Latin, I would just use one or the other but she loves the workbook and predictability of the Form series, and she enjoys the fun videos of VL.
(sorry about the scattered thoughts...just trying to throw some things out there...feel free to ask if you have any specific Qs I haven't addressed)
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If this does not work out for us, it will be full TWTM/Good Books style for highschool. Omni is completely out of the question for my family.
With my oldest going into 5th next year, and trying to create some sort of long-range vision & plan, this is where I've found myself as well. (And I also agree with your earlier assessment about Ages of Grace, although I will probably use parts of it like the hymn study and readings from the Prologue once we finish Garden of the Theotokos.)
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It's actually been down for quite a while now. I think I tried to access back in January and it had already been taken down. I hope they get it back up--and soon!
If you abandoned your homeschool room, why?
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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We abandoned ours when winter rolled around because we live in a 100 year old house with 10 ft ceilings and no insulation. The school room is on the northeast corner of the house, so it felt quite dark and dreary in the mornings, not to mention it was about 8 degrees colder than the rest of the house. We much prefer sitting at our large dining table on the southwest corner of the house with lots of large windows and the sun streaming in. Also, with four children 10 and under, there's no way we're going to stay confined in one space. From the dining room to upstairs bedrooms to the couches to the kitchen--we tend to spread out around the house.
Next year, though, I actually do intend on spending more time sitting all together at the dining table, I think. But we'll see how my older two very distractable children handle it.