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If it helps to comfort you:
the math curriculum in this country is seriously dumbed down.
When my DD went to a regular school in Germany, they covered a lot of topics in 6th grade that are 10th grade in the US, such as congruent triangles and proofs about them. (It was 6th grade stuff when I went to school in Germany as a kid, too).
So the fact that the US curriculum places certain topics in 10th grade does not mean that it is scary if a smart 5th grader can do them :-)
:iagree: Few years ago I was participating in discussion where we were talking about math education in America and other countries. I brought topic about Russian math and we were comparing it to NEM of SM, so topics studied in 7 grade for NEM were studied in Russia in 6 grade or some later one from NEM were studied earlier. So kids did Calculus I in 9th grade of regular school or 8th in AP classes. Kids used to graduate at 17 years old , some graduated at 16 or 15. No big deal. We didn't have "Gifted " programs. If you exceptionally gifted in math you can be accepted to a "Special math and physics school" where they work with number/game theories in 5th grade and do beginning of calculus in 6-7 th grade.
Also, math homework(especially Geometry,7 grade and up) used to take at least 3 hours to do in my class. We were given up to 8 geometry problems and up to 15 problems in Algebra/Calculus. Sometimes you would need to finish the left overs problems from classroom. So, you would be interested to do as many as you can during your class and start working on your home assignments. There were no solutions manual and answers were given only to even or odd problems. I think kids in US schools have it too easy:)
P.S What is known here as a "Russian math" textbook is a typical math for an average child. Being a 5th grader, it took me 1 month to get through 6 grade math textbook (something similar to the one available in US) just for fun. I did every problem in a textbook and when I brought "my homework" to school and show to my teacher she wasn't sure what to make out of it. She couldn't put me in 7th grade class next year when I suppose to be in 6th. I just spent whole year of not learning academically anything new in my math class. I was given few extra challenging problems to work on during our math sessions.
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Thanks for the link! It looks great. I am going to incorporate it with our MOH1 studies this year.
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We are going to do Latin for Children A with my 8 years old and School Song Latin with my 3.5 years old. It should be fun!
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:iagree: what everyone said.
Relax and be happy that you have such a "blessing"! Don't worry about curriculum, you can just read "science books" and do experiments. They love it at this age:) My 3 years old could study bugs, worms and spiders all day long:) I help him to write an observation. It is so fun to see them thinking. If you want a science curriculum I highly recommend REAL Science LIFE by Pandia Press. It is for 1-4 grade but can be adopted to younger audience. I am going to do it with my son next summer. He will be 4 by that time:) My daughter really enjoyed it and wouldn't mind doing it again with her brother. Before that we did Living Learning Books: Life curriculum which is simply reading books on a topic. We did it when my daughter was a 4 years old and did Galloping the Globe in K.
So, If I needed to choose only one curriculum, I would choose one by Pandia press.
http://www.rainbowresource.com/prodlist.php?sid=1282939095-1360362&subject=11&category=2724
e-book cost less from the publisher: http://www.pandiapress.com/ebooks.html
Sample pages can be found here:http://www.pandiapress.com/trybeforeyoubuy.html
For History I would choose The Story of the World for this age or other children history books. Color pictures related to the topic read and do a timeline as a project or lapbook even better.
If your son loves animals and likes to glue:) I would recommend some products from Currclick.com. There is a sale going on until August 31. I am going to buy "Discovering the continents" by Koumi Books for my kids. They like animals and travelling around the wold will be even more fun!
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Last year my daughter was doing French and Latin and had no troubles keeping them apart. Year earlier she tried French and Spanish and had a lot of confusion with it. She decided she liked French so much she wanted to use it all the time. We droped Spanish.
Earlier she had an introduction to Chinese/Japanese/Korean and could keep them apart:) French and Latin are so different!
I had problems learning Korean and Japanese at the same time. I would put a lot of Japanese words instead of Korean in conversation:(
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Catch up to whom? Is she on grade level now? Do you have her drill past mastery?
It depends on your criterias of Mastery. Everyone has her/his own ideas and goals. I chose mine. That is why we homeschool:) You know what your child is capable of doing and you encourage her/him to go on. Mine needs to be challenged.
I want my child to be able handling different kind of "simple" non-traditional problems before she moves to complicated one. She might be going slower than she would without having so many challenging problems, but I think it is much better to give her an experience of brain teasers, math olympiad assignments etc to be sure she can think creatively and out of box.
We also are trying to make some kind of unit studies combining math, science, literature, LA and history for particular topics. She is going to reinforce her Roman number understanding studying Ancient Rome and Roman scientist/mathematicians in few months by making several lap-note books covering this subject. I do like math applications.
P.S. When I was 10, I attended a " Mathematical circle"(an extra curriculum math class). We had meetings weekly. Once my teacher tought me how to find a squire root out of numbers without using a calculator. We are talking about square roots without any reminders:) I used to be able to do it mentally from up to 6 digits numbers. It was very handy because during competition you were not allowed to use any special tools except few common one(a calculator didn't count, but a slide ruler did later on)
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I was looking through TOC of standard edition and there are some differences in 3A and major differences in PM6. I am thinking about just adding topics from SE to US edition and completely switching in PM6.
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I'm assuming that we are talking about your 8yo here? I'm confused.
If she was 2-3 grades ahead in math a few years ago (I'm taking that to mean 2-3 years ago), then, assuming that she is in 3rd grade now, in K or 1st grade, she was working at a 3rd grade level. And according to your previous post, she is working at a 3rd grade level now. So she has made no progress in a few years?
I am trying to clerify my writing:
In pre-K(3,5 years) she was doing a mix of K arithmetic and geometry of 2/3grade. We did RS A + few other things. In K she was doing a mix of 1/2 grade (Calvert math + other things), in 1 grade she did 2/3 math and in 2nd grade she didn't do much math because we were thick for 4 month out of 9, then tried to catch up with LA, science, history, art etc, last year wasn't productive at all. She did some math but needed to go over it again. That is why my husband thought she should be in 4 grade math being in 2 nd grade. She wasn't interested exelling in math last year at all. Math was her least favorite subject. She was doing her French, Latin, social studies etc. We were part of on-line school partially for first half of the year and had been sick starting in February. She is not even in every subject that is why I need to adjust a lot of things to fit her needs. She is a gifted child that is why she swings from one extreme to another, which is normal:)
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Skills are not developed in isolation, or studied for the mere sake of learning the skill. Repetition comes through application in everyday life and/or advanced studies.
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I am not rushing her through topics, no way. I just trying to encourage her thinking independently. She is very advance in Logic/thinking skills. Russian math and MEP gives her a lot of good non-traditional thinking practice. I never dreamed making my child spend 2 hours adding "2+3", it is rediculous. No mistakes or 1 on test, we move on. More than 1 mistake, we works more on the topic. I am teaching her thinking logically and mathematically.
We enjoyed RS math but it was going too slow for us, so we ended doing 2-3 lessons per day.
My daughter likes geometry so she loves geometry part of Russian math/RS. We will do "geometric approach" of RS program in a year or so.
P.S. I was lazy enough to describe the whole approach of studing math in our house. My husband wants to work with my daughter on applying math to different field like making a robot and writing a program for that or working on different base math system. She has not been ready for that yet.
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SneguochkaL' date=' I guess I'm curious as to what benefit you see your daughter receiving by spending 2-4 hours a day on math? How long is your schoolday?
The reason my daughter was doing so much math this summer because she was thinking too slow(mental math). She likes to dream:) Few years ago she was 2-3 grades ahead in math, but I slowed her down and she switched her attenion to Languages. She would rather spent 2 hours on French or German than math, so my husband was complaining that she was behind and thinking too slow:( He used to teach integrated class of accelerated students many years ago. He is one of the "profoundly gifted" kids. So that is why my daughter was doing few hours of math during summer to catch up). I don't want to say that every child should spent 2 hours of math. Some days she does more because she wants to ease her Tuesdays for skating practice. She has assigned papers so she needs to do them. If she wants to play math games(when time is left),we do so. I have a lot of ways to reinforce it. We play pet detective which she likes a lot.
She wants to be Very good at math. She wants to compete in math Olympics, so she needs to be good. She is perfectionist.
There were more than 70% of accelerated students in my AP class( middle school). We competed individually in math olympics on regional levels. I wasn't always send there because school administration though they need to give other students a chance to participate at high level competitions (if we had several kids getting the same score and only 2 could represent the city). Way back it was teachers decision who would go.
P.S. Our regular school day is between 5-7 hours. She also read 1-2 hours independently every day. Playing educational games included also.
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If you attended the seminar you should be ok with a theme based lesson.
:iagree: You are familiar with IEW approach so it will be very helpful. I watched DVDs, but I think even without them anyone could do it.
I don't have experience but planning on doing Ancient History lessons along with MOH1 this year with my 8 years old. Which topic are you thinking about of doing?
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Why on earth would you want to blow through an entire 6th grade curriculum in a month??? Is somebody chasing you? Is there a prize? :confused::confused::confused:
Jackie
There is no prize and nobody chasing you. I just said you could if you want. At least I did at age 11 out of curiosity if I could do it. I had a math book something between SM 6 and NEM1(refering to topics which were covered there).
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I suggest looking here:http://dynamic2moms.webs.com/
This web-site has a lot of resourses including some notebook covers for Ancient Civilizations.
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I honestly don't think arithmetic is that complicated.
I agree with you. It is not. You can get through 6 grade math curriculum withing a month by doing it few hours per day 4-5 days a week.
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I agree with previous poster. Do what you feel is right for your child. If he wants to study, let him to proceed. I have 3.5 years old who likes "reading" too. He is not really reading but can read his favorite books:) He is doing math and French with my daughter and learning along side with her. He was listening to Astronomy textbooks reading alouds last year and answered questions quicker than his 7 years old sister. He begs to study when he wants to. He doesn't want to study every day(it is still summer), but last year he was studing for 2 hours doing math, labirints and puzzles while his sister was doing her LA.
When I had only 1 child I spent a lot of time with her doing a lot of things. Don't be afraid of having an accelerated child. Just stick with your plans of education. Good luck in your homeschool journey!
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For art, we will start with Caravaggio (no books written for children about him, so we will do picture study). We will study deepy Rembrandt, Vermeer, Velazquez and Vigee-LeBrun (because she painted Marie Antionette, not because of "Baroqueness"). We will look at art from other Baroque artists as well.
I think I have a book about Caravaggio but couldn't find it at home.
There is a freebie download for "Any painter study" from HOCH:
http://www.handsofachild.com/shop/Freebie.aspx
You can make your own lap-n-note book using it.
There is a very good serias of " Great Artists" books for kids( printed in 1903) by Jennie Ellis Keysor. Reproductions are in black and white but you can find them in color elsewhere.
Here is a link to Great Artist books:
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Hi, you might think that I am "crazy" mom but this summer my child was doing between 6-10 pages of MEP books for review 4-5 times per week during 2 months. We skipped problem which required a class activities( go and measure your classmates and make a graph etc) My youngest son didn't want to participate in experiment:) It would take my daughter between 2.5-4 hours to do them(she was also foolling around reading books while waiting for a clarification of language used etc.
I didn't find ANY math program which will be complete for me so I do 4 different math programs with my child and I am happy with it. We are not rushing but going deeper in topic. We were doing RS and SM at the beginning so now we are pretty much on SM/MEP/Russian math (for 2nd grade which is equavalent to 3rd grade math in US). We will do RS when we need it. Generally I require 2 hours of productive math work.
For example, my daugher was reading SM textbook, doing assignments in something similar to workbook( we used Graded papers for primary math instead of workbook, which were more challenging), next day we would do Challenging problems(level 3) and IP problems without challenging ones, day 3 we will do IP challenging + CWP. Then I will check with MEP/ Russian math to find correlated topics etc. We used to do math 6 times per week, but this year we are cutting down to 5. Tuesday is a light study day for us.
I do planning 1 week ahead assigning lessons, problems etc. A lot of things my daughter does orally instead of writing or just writes the answer.
Math and Languages are the priorities in my kids education, so that is why she is studying "so much". She is not profoundly gifted in math, she needs to work to get the results. She started understanding" How math works" and that is important for us.
I think "how much math to consume" will depend on your goals and your child abilities, so far my requirements meet my child abilities. If they wouldn't I would go easy on her.
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Hi, HOCH has free any painter study pack for download. They also have sample pages to Template pack, unfortunately their 35% off coupon already expires, so type in option cost $33.00. I am interested to make my own lap-n-note books so I will get it when they have another promotion going on:)
Any painter freebie:
http://www.handsofachild.com/shop/Freebie.aspx
Template pack:
http://www.handsofachild.com/shop/Template-and-Graphic-Packs-C150.aspx
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I just received my kit in mail today. I like it a lot. My daughter likes making 3-D building so she is looking forward to it. Unfortunately, I am planning to use MOH3 in 2 year so she will need to wait unless we do an independent study of Leonardo da Vinci as part of our art project:) We were planning on creating lap-n-note book of his life and inventions/art work.
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Our is SMILE-School of Mathematical Intelligence and Linguistic Excellence.
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Hi, I prefer digging deeper than wider for my child. We do textbooks, IP,CWP, MEP and some very challenging problems from math Olympiads. My daughter does most MEP problems skipping only ones which require more than one person involvement( measure several pupils in your class and make a graph etc). I also encourage her to write down the process of solving a math problem, which teaches her academic discipline and prevent making the mistakes. I was taught this way in my math school. We might not moving as fast as we would if we were using only textbooks and workbooks, but I am not in a hurry. My child will do calculus in high school and it will be good enough for me.:)
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Hi, I have 3.5 years old son who is homeschooled with his older sister. He learned how to count in French when he was only 2 years old through play. My daughter started her French so she needed a Guinea pig to practice with. Kids use 4 languages during their plays + my sons own language, which my daughter understands perfectly. She translates most of things for us. My son doesn't like long words so he shorten them. For example: strawberries-"sawsaw".
Sometimes I am trying to figure out whether he is using an actual language or the one he made up. His teacher would be very frustrated with this particular way of communication.
I do formal studies with him when he wants it. He wanted to learn about Rainforest so we are making a rainforest lapbook with him. He is finishing his 2 book of Russian math targeted to 4-5 years old(similar to Singapore Earlybirds math) and will be done with next 2 books(for 5-6 years old) by the end of the year(taking into account the speed he is consuming information). He goes to Saturday German K twice per month for 3 hours total to get exposure to German language and socialize with other kids.
Shortly said if your child is begging to have formal studies, try it. At first, they may not last longer than 15 minutes total but will be beneficial for the future building an academical discipline.
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My daughter was using MOVIP program and it was very flexible for us. I didn't feel any pressure. We chose subjects most of which were electives. Being a K-er my child was working 1 grade ahead in math, music, social studies, foreign language. She had excellent foreign language teachers who work with her additionally( she wanted to learn how to read in French so we coordinated with her French teacher and they read few nice children story books together).
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I would love a link to this!
Thanks!
Hi, Interactive pages for 3a and 3b workbooks:
http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/y3int/default.htm
MEP Primary Interactive Resource: review of the 3a workbook:
http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/bk3a/default.htm
Interactive pages for 4a workbook:
http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/y4int/default.htm
Main link to the MEP resources:
http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/default.htm
Am I the only one that is frightened about having an accelerated learner?
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It is still great that we can homeschool our kids in America.An accelerated learner has a chance to excel. It 's not very good in other countries. In most Germany it is illegal, in Bavaria particularly. In Russia you need to have an umbrella school for your child to take tests etc. It was illegal earlier when I was a6t school age.