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WOW. I hadn't seen those, I guess I haven't spent enough time browsing through the main website. Thank you so much for that. I have a couple of the books already, I checked the library they have several.
This is a huge help. Thank you for posting it.
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I went to order the timeline sheets recommended in WTM. They are reasonably priced, 3/ for $10, however they only ship UPS, and UPS tacks on tons for broker fees for over the boarder purchases. So, that wasn't going to work.
I decided to try my hand at making my own. Looking at the ones recommended, I opened OpenOffice and did a custom paper size to fit a ledger sheet(yes, a little smaller than what the other ones were), created a table. I converted it to pdf and sent them to printer shop digitally. They printed 30 for $10 at the local printer shop, the more I order, the cheaper it will be, but for now, 30 is plenty :lol:.
Doing a little happy dance..LOL.
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I'm told that CLE LA is complete with the addition of the writing book. I am just starting so I can't say for sure for sure. But it does have spelling, grammar, comprehension, vocabulary. It has prompts to ask about creative writing. I don't have the writing book, we use WWE at the moment.
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This topic comes up about once a week. I think there is a thread about 3 days ago?
I strongly advocate hard copies of encyclopedias. Children and adults will READ them when they are hard bound.
Multiple, overlapping old broken sets are okay to start with. Eventually full, newer sets will fall into your lap. Then you can use the old sets for clip art to illustrate projects.
I never worry about the year books. Not much gets updated each year. I just automatically look up certain kinds of material in a current almanac or online.
Ants, trees, motion, magnets, vitamin C, stay the same from decade to decade. Populations, computers and NASA change, from year to year. You will know what to look up in an old set, and what to look up online.
Thank you for that! I would have searched, but the search hasn't worked for me in a couple days, I keep getting an error.
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We don't get to the library as much as we'd like, it's hard when you have 3 under 3 as well. I'd love to have a great reference set here. I have a few of the KF and Usborne, but they are very specific, the World Book or Britannica are general. It would give them a start on anything they want to research, and branch from that.
I just don't know. I saw one with all the year books up to 2005, so not too bad.
They will take room, I agree, but I have a bunch of novels that I've had for 10 years that I've never re-read. What is the worst thing that will happen if i let them go? I'll have to borrow from the library. I'd rather have a great tool, that novels collecting dust.
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I was looking for a set of encyclopedias. World book or britannica. Not much out there to choose from, as most people use the internet now. I don't want the kids to be so reliant on the internet. Anyway, how old is too old? No older than last 10 years? 20 years?
Thanks!
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I'm looking at everything we hope to accomplish over the next 4 years for dd13 and the up and coming, and I am realizing, I'm needing to self educate, that is the only logical step here.
What can you recommend to give me jump start? Grammar is one I'm working on. As dd13 will be doing an essay writing module, I'll be doing it first. I need to learn how to recognize good/poor writing.
Any suggestions? She isn't starting into this for about 5.5 months, I have a bit of a head start..lol. I need to get my ducks in a row.
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I know we all keep saying this but have you listened to SWB's MP3 on Middle Grade Writing, Literary Analysis, and History as Literature? That would get you started and for $4 each, you can't beat the price!
Take a book they have read and ask Who is the book about? What did she want? What is preventing her from getting it? How is it resolved? - or something like lol it's in the MP3 as well in WTM2009 edition.
History Odyssey has a good deal of writing. I would make sure you know what a good paragraph is so that you can discuss paragraph structure w/ them when they are doing assignments for HO. At least that is my plan.
I've also been reading The Lively Art of Writing. It's a cheap little book but I've learned a lot. My goal is to learn about good paragraphs, good essays so I can teach these concepts in the context of their writing in history and literature rather than as a separate writing curriculum.
Thank you for the book recommendation, I will definitely look into it.
SO HO should cover a good portion of history assignments, I just need to educate myself in terms of good paragraphs and essays. Got it.
I think i have that MP3, I remember listening to one about writing. Thanks for that reminder!
I'm so scared I'm going to ruin them.... I don't want to do it wrong.
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I'm really floundering on grasping this. Reading some of the beautifully written samples that are shared, I know my girls aren't at that level, but if I could figure it out, they could get there.
Here is what is happening for our family:
This year, my older 2 didn't follow the classical path and did a VS, their first year homeschooling. Dd11 did a fair amount of writing, that the teachers there graded quite highly, she has completed her grade 6. However, dd13, while has not yet completed her grade 8, has yet to write an essay in LA or Social. And claims that she has never written an essay while in school. All she has left is her novel study in LA , so maybe there is a writing assignment in there. The most extensive in Social thus far, is a paragraph for written response. She does have several assignments in SOcial left, so hopefully there is something in there.
DD11 is starting grade 7 now, since she has technically 3.5 months of school left. She has started Science, loving it, she is doing lab reports. She has started Writing Strands which she appears to enjoy well enough. I did start possible a level too low, but as I said, this is enrichment at this point, I'd rather start a little low, and build her up. And today, she is trying out History Odyssey, The Ancients, which has some outlining in it.
She works about 2 hours a day for now. This just gets her ahead for next fall, although I think we're officially schooling year round now, at their request.
DD13 isn't starting anything new yet. She needs to complete. She will be grade 9, however I think she'll be following 7/8 recommendations for writing at least for a few months. She wants to write, but to date, the school she was in and the VS didn't teach the tools she needed. She will start the One Year Novel in the fall, with the caveat that we will be doing lots of grammar and writing instruction. She will be doing the Writing Strands, working with outlining, as well as Analytical Grammars essay course.
Here is where the question lies. I want both to read some of the lit. recommendations for their reading, both history and LA. But I don't know what to do with that after the fact :glare:. How to assign a written..... anything. I'm not grasping what I'm supposed to do with the novel, or other books after they've read them.
I tried to do a search, but I really even know what the true question is :lol:
Can you tell, I'm a little overwhelmed? But I know I'll be an old shoe when dd7 gets to middle school and high school. Right now, I'm so darn :D green in the world of homeschooling, I feel like I"m in over my head.
Help!
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She is grade 9 next year.
So many options, so little time..lol
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Subscribing to the thread!
Great information!
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Am I understanding right, that CM is similar to Classical, in that it uses living books, but rather than history based it is more literature based?
If so since dd has a serious interest in writing. It's her passion. Would some of the recommendations be more appropriate? or does it make much difference?
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Well, I haven't really been classical here, so I don't know that I'm the best to offer advice.:blush: We've been more CM-ish. I just think it's never to late to start anything.:tongue_smilie: I would probably use WTM as a guide along with WEM. I would also make sure to adjust as needed. I really don't want my kids spending all day on book work--and I'm not saying it takes everyone all day, just that I think it might take us all day. I'd also look closely at Ambleside Online. I think AO is a great way to go. It's a CM curriculum, but it is very challenging. All the years from Year 7 on up would be high school level IMO. Mother of Divine Grace syllabi are something I am considering for high school. Classical approach but perhaps a bit lighter than WTM IMO. I am so up in the air for 9th right now. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Thanks for that! I'll take a snoop.
She has expressed an interest in Around the World in 180 days. So I'm considering that, adding in some outlining practice, reading from various time periods, we'll work with Analytical grammars essay course(because I accidentally ordered it, may as well use it) I'll use some of the recommendations from WTM and those found in the Pandia press readinging lists. I may slow her down to being done over a longer period. I'd love her to do world history as a 4 year program. But, I'm just not sure how to make it work.... but I'm making progress..lol
Keep the ideas coming! I've found some great things by snooping in the links.
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For me, History Odyssey Level 2 is making WTM history happen. If i tried (and I have) to do it just from the WTM book, it would not happen. Check it out. www.pandiapress.com
I don't know enough about this. But I have another older child that is now rethinking all her curriculum choices. Would a Level 3 be too intense for her, grade 9? She hasn't had any classical education.
This could be an option or Around the World in 180 days. Not sure what to do!
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It does seem to fill in the blanks. I like that it would prompt her to create an outline. Does it do that through out the lessons?
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I'd say she looked, said it's too hard and didn't do it.
It's an ongoing pattern here, if it takes effort, she doesn't want to try. We're working on it.
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Ok, we're fine now. She had written out answers on a separate paper, so now she's placing very close to where I expected she would. She did skip a few, but that was ok, she missed some thinking it was part of a previous question she didn't get.
So, making her pay attention, and getting all her papers.... and she did ok.
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DD11 have been using Math Mammoth, and as we're outgrowing the program, I had her do a placement in Saxon and Singapore. She didn't even place in her current grade! She's done tests and cumulative reviews, and did very well. I have NO Idea what is going on here.
She isn't retaining it! I'm not sure what I'll do with it. We'll be going through and doing more review, and try again in a month or so, to see if it was just absentmindedness. But she should have done better than that!
This is really feeling bad.
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Can't help as far as the classical education' date=' but I'd highly recommend you consider Apologia Physical Science instead of their General Science. It will prepare her much better for high school science. :)[/quote']
I will look into that! Thanks!
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I don't think it's too late to start classical. :grouphug:
Thank you for all the recommendations! I'll be looking into those.
If it isn't too late for starting Classical, how would you implement that over the next 4 years?
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Talk about snowball effect. Her younger sister has made the move to classical, now dd13 is questioning everything now too!
DD13 has been in a school from k-7, and did virtual school this year.
She hasn't enjoyed the curriculum the school board provided. We are looking for alternatives here. It's late to start the classical cycle. But I'm positive there are ways to improve her education from what it has been. To have discovered homeschooling 12 years ago...
She has already decided to do Apologia General Science between now and August so that she can take Chemistry in the fall. Then perhaps biology for 10th and move into the advanced levels after that.
She really wants to do the One Year Novel course. So I thought we could build on that desire, drop the school curriculum altogether for LA. In our school system grammar isn't a priority in our schools so we need remedial in this area. We NEED spelling, what is suitable for her age? Get her doing some reading, I'll pull some of that from the 7/8 recommendations in WTM and move on from there. Writing Strands. And work on that novel course.
Outlining and note taking.
I like CLE LA, but she's never done diagramming, so I don't know what to consider.
She hated the Social Studies, but I'm not sure what we could do? An intense year of Canadian History? World History?
We'll be doing bible study as a family. Much more fun :) and interactive.
Can anyone suggest anything to help us improve her education? There is really no way but up from her. Any suggestions in place of the ones above are welcome. I've limited exposure to high school level curriculum.
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She will be starting it today, so I'll try to remember to post in a couple of weeks once she has finished some of the assignments. As I did say, I started at a lower level for her, to build her confidence, she should make good progress!!
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This weekend was spent researching new curricula for my 'technically' grade 7 daughter. She is starting her grade 7 this week. She did virtual for 6th, and has hated every minute of it. It was extremely dry, boring and her retention for science was 0. We struggled through everything. Technically, it was an easy course, but poorly written by the school board. SO, after lots of research, here at WTM, a few sweet pm's with details of why some did or didn't like a curriculum(thank you much!), a few phone calls, reading some blogs, I think we have things settled for the most part, except for history, I need to read how to do it the WTM way.
We found some we were able to pick up yesterday, and I have to say, I'm pleased with it!
We're doing a late immersion into Classical with her, so bear with me.
We picked up LoF Fractions. It is probably a little easy, the first few chapters, anyway, as she just finished fractions in MM. Dr. Stanley's writing suits her well. She is laughing and giggling. :001_huh: There is something wrong with that picture..lol. I have read through several chapters; I would thoroughly enjoy it personally.
Writing Strands - this was a little confusing as to what level to get her. Since we're starting a little late in the game, and the ps school education she received was poor at best. I am using the level 3 with her. It doesn't seem beyond her, but it includes her age group, so she is fine with it. I can see us working through this one easily. I thought it a great place to start. I read through several lessons last night, and the tone of the book is light hearted, a little quirky/corny. E will love it.
Apologia - General Science. I had a really hard time choosing science. I required it be hands on. After the year of dry, boring, brutal science we had, she needs something to engage her. She loves participating in her little sisters science experiments(much to her sisters dismay, I might add). It is written in more of a conversational tone, yet is still challenging. This is going to be a stretch for her academically. The exams for the text are going to make her stretch her mind. I don't think I'll receive any real objections for her, I think it is going to be great!
I am fortunate, we have a homeschool mom that has a bookstore, and had those three in stock.
She is ordering in for me: Vocabulary from Classical Roots A, as well as a beginning diagramming workbook.
I have ordered CLE LA, Note Taking and Outlining.
I am following SWB recommendations for the students that are starting late as much as possible.
I told dd11 that we stick to it for the year. If she doesn't like it, we'll revisit for grade 8, but we have to give it a chance to sink in. It is like anything we try, sport, course. We finish it and move on from there.
Now to get a grasp of how to work with history. DD is chomping at the bit to start that!
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Writing with Skill...SWB's new logic stage writing curriculum. It follows the WWE series and is due out this fall.
THAT is exciting!
Recommendations for teaching....
in High School and Self-Education Board
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I'll need HOURS to snoop in there. I really haven't noticed there were articles before. This is fantastic, I'm very excited to be discovering all that the site holds.