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  1. As Creekland pointed out, very interesting stats in the article.   Like Angela's daughter, dd is also in the small minority for most categories.

     

    8 Fill, I think that the percent for those having no loans is so high because it's generally for those whose families can afford to pay in full, or for those who receive great merit scholarships or financial aid with no loans.   For the second group, the number of colleges which offer full support without loans is very limited.  It still irks me that so many colleges claim to meet 100% need and not only include the basic Stafford loans, but ones above and beyond for which neither the students nor parents would likely qualify.   Dd could have written fewer essays and we could have saved CSS and test score costs in hindsight. 

     

    Regarding not attending first choice, it surprises me that about 75% are accepted to attend their first choice college.  I'm guessing that the majority are attending in state publics.  But I'm sure that if you look at those pursuing the most selective colleges, it's probably a very small percentage (maybe less than 10% based on admission rates?) who are accepted into their first choice college.   Dd had one we thought might be a first choice, but there was nothing set in her mind at all as she didn't think she'd be accepted and didn't visit.   Even for those who are admitted into their first choice, I can easily see them attending elsewhere, not only for financial reasons, but after visiting.  Not all students visit all their choices before applying and overnight visits can be enlightening.   Sometimes the not-my-first-choice ones can become clear winners after financial info and visits and research are done.   There's also more time after the December/January rush to get in applications and scholarships for students to research and learn more about what each college has to offer.

  2. I'm sure it can and does work out very well for some.  I would imagine that if it became an option, that colleges would be willing to accept the student back should they want to return within a set amount of time.  I'd think that having a plan B would be good, especially if they'd be giving up great scholarships and/or financial aid.

  3. I would do whatever I could to help meet your son's need for more connection with the group.  Could he just take foreign language and maybe just "re-do" the physical science with them?  Science labs are fun in a group.  This would enable him to join them on field trips and all.   Maybe you could just drop him off instead of spending the day there?   As for sports, would he like to be a score keeper or help out in other ways.  Maybe one of his friends' could pick him up for game days.  I would imagine that the other mothers would be understanding of your situation and be willing to help out with getting him to activities.   Teens enjoy being with other teens.  It's great when you can find academic opportunities that fit better or are more challenging, but that isn't always the case.  Any classes he takes there which you don't think are up to par can be supplemented, or you can look at the coop class as being a supplement, or review session, to what you teach at home.

  4. I think we were posting at the same time! Yes, my kids (& others we know) did DE to ensure freshman status -- even within CA. My sons wanted to start at the UCs or Cal Poly/Cal States as freshmen. However, it IS easier to be accepted to, say, UC Berkeley as a transfer than as a freshman (as in-state; for OOS the reverse is true).

     

    Yes, for some students/majors/goals/financial and/or merit aid the freshman status is important.  For other students and their major/goals/financial and/or merit aid, the transfer status is important.   It's great that both are options!

  5. I understand wanting to graduate the student for California CCs to get a better choice of courses and all, but how does that work if the student wants to attend a private four year and apply as a freshman?   I'm guessing that the majority stay in state with the great California universities and state colleges, but if someone thinks that their student may be interested in applying as a fresman OOS, then they may want to attend their CCC as a dual enrolled high school student, even with all the limitations. 

  6. Math 87 *is* "pre-algebra." (I'm assuming you mean Algebra 1/2). Don't be confused by the titles. :-)

     

    Yes, I know 8/7 is pre-algebra, but I assumed that the OP meant Algebra 1/2 and I was differentiating between the two, although not very clearly.   :tongue_smilie:

     

    Barb, glad to hear you'll keep on with the text.  

  7. You've got plenty of time now to finish the rest of pre-algebra.  I would not recommend skipping the final lessons as that's usually where the more difficult content lies.  The book itself explains things well, but we used 8/7 instead of pre-algebra.  With that, your student may find that reading the lesson and working the sample problems, with paper and pencil themselves, will be enough to complete the final lessons.   There's no way I would pay for a class when the text isn't even finished in a year!  We worked Saxon the same as Togo, but the test was on the same day as a lesson, so the weekends were free.   With that, until Advanced Math, the texts were completed by March or April.

  8. Could she take one class this summer at a local college?  You could even do something just for fun and even take it together, and then you can help her to come up with a workable plan.  If she could learn to work with the disability coordinator at the community college, then she'll have it even easier when she goes away and needs to do it all on her own.  Just a thought.   

     

    One big difference with lectures is that the instructor often turns away from the students and continues talking while writing on the board.  This may be a situation which requires her to wear the hearing aids.  I like Coffegal's idea of recording the lectures.  Some professors may require her to go through the disability office in order to get approval to do this.

     

  9. I don't know that that really says anything -- yes, there are correlations between kids in the US who drink early and then get into other kinds of trouble.  But that doesn't mean the drinking caused the trouble, only that drinking is part of that constellation of things that are labelled "trouble".

     

    Early binge drinking is probably bad.  Binge drinking for anyone is bad.  It would be interesting to see if there are any studies on effects of moderate alcohol consumption on teens and kids, but I don't think that's a study that could be done in the US.  Any kid who drinks is likely to have other issues.

     

    Underage drinking isn't actually illegal in many states, if the parents give consent (although it usually has to occur "in the home" or other private property, *with* the parent's presence, and never extends to providing alcohol to other people's kids).

     

    I wrote my post and linked the study in response to several parents talking about the advantages, or possible advantages, of introducing teens to drinking before the age of 21 to help prevent a temptation to overdue it when they turn 21.   Drinking at an early age alters the brain.  How much is safe?  How much is too much?   

  10. I don't have any talent for writing, but I'm very good with punctuation and decent with grammar.  Dd (college freshman) sends me her papers to do a final proof and sometimes to make sure her points are clear.

     

    Am I the only one who does this?

    :leaving:

     

    From what I've read, likely not.  What will she do when she needs to write business letter or send memos or emails?   If she needs help proofreading, she should be utilizing help on campus IMO.  

     

    OP as for the course, I'd go with the seminar too.  

  11. I suspect that depends enormously on the kind of job. It was certainly not my experience back in my tech writing and editing days, for example.

     

    My guess is that you are talking about a certain kind of career that doesn't apply to many people.

     

    Investment banking is one that's typically mentioned.   And then there's Chris Gardner and his brokerage firm which was earned the hard way.   

  12. And I'm telling you that merit only takes you so far, and without the right connections, it doesn't matter how competant you are. You may have a fantastic resume, but if you don't know the correct person, you'll never have a shot at landing the job.

     

    I have no doubt that that is true for some jobs.  But if you take that as an assumption, a person graduates from only one university or college and makes connections there.   So even if you assume a graduate of Harvard, perhaps the job that would be best suited and most fantastic for that graduate has opened up at a company which favors Princeton graduates, or Yale, or ...   

     

    A student from a middle or lower class family may or may not make the connections at college.  In some colleges these connections are fostered through the Greek houses or other ways which might not be accessible to these students financially.  

     

    IMO a good education, internships and connections with professors trump a mediocre education, heavy partying just doing the bare minimum type of college education any day and both of these types of students attend prestigious and "other" colleges. 

     

    While I do think that some prestigious colleges do have advantages and see ambiguity in this study, all colleges and universities offer opportunities and it's up to the student to take advantage of what is available.  

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