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Unfortunately, no. The current students started registration for Fall 2015 in late March.
I had originally assumed that the freshmen were registering after the upperclassmen, but then curiosity got the best of me and I looked at what I thought is his academic calendar. They don't list the March registration dates - or at least I didn't see it. Sorry. I originally assumed correctly, but then I checked and assumed wrong. Each college is different.
Still I like the May registration better as he can do it with you and then have lots of time to think about whether he wants to make changes before meeting with his advisor at orientation.
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What's really unique is that it looks like the freshmen will be registering for classes before the upperclassmen. Nice!
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Online registration is nice and fast, but some dual enrollment programs do not allow the student to register online and they have to submit their course selections in another way. Sebastian I'd recommend talking with your dual enrollment coordinator about their process and if there's a time delay from when degree seeking students register and dual enrollment students may register. If there is, you may want to have a few alternate schedules in case some of the first choices are full. Also ask when payments are due, because that's when seats suddenly become available again. I know that's a major concern in California, but may not be so much in Hawaii. The more info you have ahead of registration, the easier it will be.
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Have they registered at the CC yet and received student IDs? This usually (edit to sometimes) needs to be done before they'll be given full access to all the functions of the course searching and scheduling functions. They should call and ask about orientation to the online system. They will learn how to do the scheduling and a whole lot more.
With having to work around online courses, it's probably easier to just do it the old fashioned way. But if you know that there are two or three days that you are hoping to fit the CC classes in, then you can specify those dates and times to narrow the search. If you/they know what classes they want to take, then it's probably easier to just look at the offerings for class times and work from there. Start with the course which has the least options and then try to see what is available at the same times for the other student. Driving once for two students would probably be a big time saver.
Not sure if any of that helped. Dd and I have done it both online and the old fashioned way. I like the old fashioned way better as it allows for different options without rejecting an option if the times conflict.
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I just looked at Liberty and their COA is under 30K. To me that's sounds reasonable although unaffordable to us. Tuition is approx 20K. Being in Virginia, Indoor fields allow athletes to practice in any type of weather. The improvements do usually result in a better overall experience for the students. Indoor pool, ice rink ... nice! It's not a partying school, so that probably saves them a lot of money in security, vandalism, etc. and they're putting upgrades into the things students can enjoy. But I do understand that some parents would prefer a lower cost no-frills education. I suppose the closest to that is a good priced state school within commuting distance.
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Great list! I'd just add that you should have the student make up a list of their own needs and wants. It may be that they want to be in or near a city or rural, have a certain sport or activity available, be on the semester, quarter, or trimester scheduling, types of food or hours dining halls are open, college town nearby, availability or absence of frats/sororities or big sports culture, partying culture, diversity or not, student:faculty ratio, class sizes, TAs or not, availability of tutoring, weather, campus size, availability of on-campus activities and associated costs, dorm configurations and costs, segregated or integrated housing of freshmen, work study availability, proximity to favorite eatery (Starbucks, Chipotle, etc.), competition vs collaboration, grade inflation or deflation, honors programs, travel between home ease, time and cost, car need and parking restrictions/costs, public transport availability/convenience, etc..
And for the parent, percent of need met and the results of the net price calculator.
To add to the original list, any restrictions on the number of courses or credits and additional costs for exceeding the limit, any additional fees for science, art, etc. classes, availability of courses, availability of internships, yearly increases in tuition and whether aid/merit will also increase, etc.
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Scripps doesn't offer business as a major. The community college is because of the area. We're still waiting to hear from some outside scholarships. She eliminated USC and some big Flordia colleges due to size. How would I find a college counselor?
DD was sure what she wanted at the beginning, now she's unsure and can't make up her mind.
A business major would likely be too weak for investment banking. The school she attends and the networking she does there would likely count the most. Princeton is ideal. It's also an easy trip to Wall Street for internships and all. If she chose Scripps, she'd likely be majoring in economics, and then taking statistics at Harvey Mudd, Financial Economics courses at Claremont McKenna, etc.. I hate to bring it up again, but I really don't see someone who's in tears about not getting into her first choice but on the same day being accepted into Princeton and Brown as having IB as their goal. Maybe some career testing/counseling would be helpful? As for college counselors local to you, I'd search on the web, call local high schools. Really I have no idea so hopefully someone else will have suggestions.
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Did your daughter apply to just a few schools last year and take a gap year to reapply this year? If so, it's even more important that she chooses one with the right fit. It doesn't sound like she's thinking logically about her options and she has some really good options. Counseling would help tremendously.
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Because of the area. The Florida Keys area is beautiful, so she's considering it.
That's worth approx 25K per year for two years? She could attend for less at a full tuition scholarship school (thinking USC) and have money left over for Florida vacations.
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I'm baffled.
In the other post you had written:
Thank you! DD applied to many colleges just for the heck of it. They bribed her with fee waivers, chocolate, tshirts. So why not apply when you get a free candy bar and don't pay anything in fees.Her top five were Duke, Pepperdine, Scripps,Harvard, UCLA. She got rejected from 4/5 of her top choices. She automatically weeded out certain colleges. Then is starting to weed out colleges due to size. She decided she wants a small college. She always wanted to go to California because it's warm. Then she's thinking about staying close to home. She wants diversity. Then it comes down to costs. She doesn't want to be in debt, and take out any loans. She did apply to outside scholarships.
What state is in-state for her? Or in which geographical location is it (southwest, northeast, etc.)?
If Scripps was originally one of her top choices, why has it been eliminated?
Has she gotten any of the outside scholarships or is she still waiting for decisions on those?
I'm guessing she eliminated Brown and USC due to their size? Free tuition to USC must be hard to pass up and Brown is very different from Princeton. Brown is also relatively not much larger than Biola and smaller than Texas Christian.
I'm not familiar with most of the ones on her reduced list, but it doesn't sound like they'd be high on diversity and some are likely rather conservative, which you had mentioned she's avoiding.
Also not understanding the community college.
Can you afford to pay for the balance after scholarships so she doesn't have to take out loans?
She might really benefit from a professional college counselor. It might be money well spent.
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I wonder if it would do better as a girl's boarding school. For high school students, the proximity to a city and all that goes with that is less important.
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I know not all the top students from all the schools in the country are applying for the lottery schools. If that ever becomes the case, the acceptance rate at the lottery schools would drop into the decimals points.
I agree it is insulting to assume that athletics (or any other hook) is the reason a student got in, but when the numbers are off, I can see why people wonder. Did you know that according to the common data set 7 freshman at Stanford this year have an ACT between 18-23? I have a kid in junior high with higher ACT score. Another 50-something have an SAT CR in the 500s? Of course, there is no way of knowing who these students are. They may easily be brilliant students in their chosen fields with a disability that makes standardized testing scores out-of-line with their intellectual abilities. Unfortunately I don't think that is where people's minds first jump. I know a student/athlete at Stanford. I feel bad that people may make these assumptions about him, as I know he has high test scores and grades coming out of a highly ranked public school. He ended up finishing number 2 in the class when the person ranked number 2 fall semester made a B in an AP class spring semester. To have beat out number 1 in this class you would have needed 15 AP classes as well as all As. Number one and number three both went to their first choice schools, in-state (different) public universities ranked in the top 100. One in the class went to an Ivy, but he wasn't in the top 5 students.
Again, according to the Stanford's data set a couple students more than exactly half of 2014 freshmen are full pay students. So, I can see why people think having the money helps since it is a pricey school. However, there is no way to know if the rejected students profile was split 50/50 also. So people can make wrong assumptions.
(I'm stuck in a hotel with a sick kid, who is thankfully sleeping. So, this common data set thing is fun for me to look at right now when I am surrounded by 4-walls.)
I totally agree that it is totally up to the families and students to make the right decisions for them. Just because my mind wanders, I wonder how many accepted students would have to turn down a lottery school for one student to move off the waitlist. The Common data set shows Stanford waitlisted 576 students and accepted none.
My agreeing with you stops at Folks can take their toys and go home and choose not to play. But just as the saying goes with regard to the lottery, "You can't win if you don't play."
If I was a person to get insulted, I could get insulted since this seems to indicate that if you don't apply to lottery schools you can't win. I have a college kid that had great test scores and grades. She had other things going for her also, however, she found her perfect school in an OOS top 100 school. In her first two years of college, she finished in the top 5 in a regional competition in her area of interest, was selected for the only research experience for undergraduates that she applied for as freshman, was hired for an on-campus research job that may include international travel, and was hired as a sophomore for a highly-sought after summer internship. When she was applying for summer internships, she interviewed with or was contacted to schedule an internship with 5 of the top 10 companies in her area of interest. (I can't remember if the criteria for top company was by intern pay or something else as she shared with me a couple of different lists.) She never played the lottery game,but I fail to see what more she could have won by playing except for debt. We have strange financials, so I don't know how those schools without merit aid would have treated her.
When you son was deciding between Stanford and his other acceptances last year, I seemed to insult you by asking something about his safeties. If I remember correctly, your response was along the lines of why would he consider those anymore now that he was accepted to these other schools. I never answered, but my answer would have been, because he decided he liked it better, he wants to stay closer to home, one has some special program that he was accepted into that seems the perfect fit for him, it is cheaper, wants to go to school with friends/girl friend/boy friend... all the same reasons that most top students do not apply to the lottery schools. I completely understand it would be harder to make this choice after your student "won the lottery" than before buying the lottery tickets.
Even though the vast majority of my kid's classmates went to in-state public universities, some of them gave her a hard time for her choice. (All schools involved are ranked in the top 100, however theirs were more selective than hers.) So, she decided to apply to Columbia to show she could be accepted at a truly elective school. She actually had no interest in attending Columbia if accepted, so I would not pay the $90 application fee as I have much better uses for that money than her being bothered by teen telk. She didn't feel bothered enough to spend her own money to apply.
Once I overheard in a group thing someone say the kids that go out-of-state to my daughter's school are those who were rejected from our top in-state schools. Instead of being insulted, I laughed and thought of an old quote. "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." Since these in-state schools are not lottery schools, there is no doubt my daughter would have been accepted if she had applied, but we did not see a reason to spend that money eiher.
(I am not saying you are a fool. I just think you have a different perspective than I do. This lady was making a broad assumption/generalization, which is almost always the wrong way to go.) I know many of successful, wealthy people and they all got there by hard work, luck, and smart financial choices. None of them got there by playing the lottery.
I would not necessarily assume this will lower her chances of transferring. I don't know how much transferring has anything to do the school students are coming from as opposed to the transfer student himself/herself. Tell your student to keep up the great work and talk to those schools she truly wants to attend about what they want to see in a transfer student. Good luck to her.
I'm sorry that things are not going to way the way everything says it will. I'm still hoping that something will work out. Please know deep down you did not let your son down. Just from reading here, it looks like the system did, but I don't know enough to know that.
Yes, this is tue. However, it is hard to know exactly where is right since it differs per student. I have read numerous times on here that private schools give better scholarships than public. My kid got much better offers from her OOS public school than the private schools she applied to. It was higher ranked than any of the others, which she only applied to, because they were free. I wanted her to have a choice in case she changed her mind. She was above all of their top 25 percent scores, she gave geographical diversity for a couple, she may have doubled the female students at another (just kidding, but it was 75-90 percent male.) They all gave her $20 to $30 thousand in merit aid. She received some need based, but it was mainly loans. She would have ended up paying 2 to 3 times out EFC at all of them. She pays way less than at her OOS school. Another OOS was even cheaper, but some of those scholarships would have gone away after the first year.
I think this is a generalization. Yes, merit aid brings in students who may not have otherwise gone there. But, I know that isn't the only reason top students attend schools that give merit aid. I know my kid knew she was going to her school even before she knew the final scholarship offer. On paper, the higher-ranked in-state schools looked cheaper. It turns out they weren't, but we didn't know that until after she decided not to apply to any in-state schools. Since I went there also, I know a bunch of people I went to school with whose kids are going their now. Many of these kids have the scores/grades to have had their applications read anywhere, but they wanted this school. Why wouldn't they? Their parents are all successful and they went there.
Oops sickie is up, so I won't be able to respond to the other things I had multi-quoted. I had too much fun with those common data sets.
Hugs to all of you still figuring out where your senior will be next year and how to pay for it. My advice is don't listen to all the chatter that you hear around you, but focus on what is right for your student and your finances.
If you don't apply to "lottery school" you can't "win" admission to the lottery schools. It's simply a fact and not something to be insulted by. If you remember accurately, HG acknowledged that her son had some great options. I was the one who assumed he would choose Stanford. Many parents would be thrilled to have a student at Stanford, and HG expressed that last year. It sounds like your daughter made a great choice for herself.
Glad you had fun with the common data sets, and hope your sick one is feeling better.
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Also of interest on the common data set of UA, from the same section referenced above, is that of all the academic scholarships whether from UA or outside sources, 67.9 million was need based and 93.5 million was non-need based.
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To find out how a college allocates merit scholarships, athletic scholarships, and financial aid, all you need to do is look at the common data set. I looked up U of Alabama as that one is known for having great merit based aid. On page 20 of this link you can see how much is provided for academic vs athletic scholarships. I tried to copy the chart here, but can only copy the link.
http://oira.ua.edu/d/content/reports/2014-2015-common-data-set
For non-need based merit scholarship the amount was roughly 79.8 million and for non-need based athletic scholarship it was roughly 10.4 million.
Merit scholarships shouldn't be the only reason a student works hard in high school, but are a valid goal when applications are sent to the schools which award good merit aid. Since the top schools award the best financial aid, hard work can also pay off for those needing a lot of financial aid. It's not at all guaranteed that the student will gain admission to one of those schools, but it's worth trying for. Some merit aid is easier to count on as it's entirely GPA and test dependent. The low income student can apply for those as well, but they may have a harder time filling the gap as they likely don't have the same resources a s a middle income student who can get by with just the merit aid. Yes, sometimes additional scholarships can be stacked, but this is more competitive and not a sure thing either.
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Sorry you're both going through this. A brief explanation from the school's guidance counselor should be all that's needed to keep current offers in place. Hope he's feeling better soon. :grouphug:
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I'm guessing the choice may be akin to a school like Harvard versus somewhere most of us have never even heard of. Really "brand name" versus really "non name brand."
I think it would be helpful to have the list on this thread. Purpleroses maybe you could edit out any schools she's no longer considering so we have a better idea of which ones are still in the running.
USC (full tuition)
Wheaton(20k scholarship)
USCD
Scripps
Biola(trustee scholarship 12k)
Azusa
Princeton(we're shocked too)
Claremont McKenna(10k scholarship)
FSU (9k per year)
Barrett,the Honors College
University of Arizona (12k per year)
University of Tampa
UCF
FL keys CC
Texas Christian
San Diego CC
Columbia(wait listed)
University of Rochester
LIU Brooklyn
College of Mt Saint Vincent
Hofstra(20k scholarship)
Notre Dame of Maryland University
San Diego Christian
Agnes Scott(22k scholarship)
Stonybrook
Mills
Westmont
Syracuse
Brown(surprised by this as well)
Point Loma
USF(4k)
University of Florida
Loyola Maryland
Loyola Chicago (13,500 scholarship)
Santa Clara(scholarship pending)
Simmons(full tuition)
George Fox (10k scholarship)
Arizona Christian
Dallas Baptist
New College of FL(15k scholarship)
Pace
Barry
Phew!! I know dd applied to a lot of colleges but she wanted to keep her options open. We expected a lot of rejection letters but surprising it was sorta half and half.
* all scholarships are per year
It's actually over 40 as only one is a waitlist. Would also help to know which ones provided an affordable scholarship/financial aid package. I can't even begin to imagine having to compare all of these, but I'm sure you've got some sort of system, and I'm sure that many fell from the list as more acceptances came in too.
What is her intended major or is she undecided?
Is California or Florida in-state for you? I noticed she applied to community colleges and state schools in both.
Out of the above, excluding Columbia, which is her first choice? Which is the one that she says wouldn't be a good fit?
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Yup. That's why passions should be kid led. I think it's our job as parents to give them opportunities to try various things, but latching a hold of something they love is up to them.
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I disagree slightly-- in some communities and in some professions, brand is everything. It is certainly true here in my part of the Midwest.
I agree with you that sometimes the schools's reputation does matter in some professions, but this particular student has a lot of "good name brand" colleges to choose from, so there's no need to go to one which is a poor fit. No college will be perfect, but poor fits can usually be avoided when there's over 30 to choose from.
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Agreeing with Cynthia, and she should visit her top picks as well if she hasn't already. Going to a college which is a poor fit isn't wise no matter what it's reputation.
Edited: Agreeing with Creekland too.
Having over 30 acceptances should enable her to eliminate the schools which are unaffordable, a poor fit, and any other criteria she chooses. She'll still end up with enough to visit and make a choice.
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You are one of the homeschooling pioneers! Awesome!
Maura in NY will go down in infamy for clearing the way
to UMass for NY homeschoolers without any GED required!
Maybe soon they'll join the other 3000+ colleges which
accept just the homeschooling transcript from all 50 states.
:hurray: :party: :hurray:
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You very likely DID hear a similar story before. A very similar story.
The young man who got admitted to 8 Ivies last year, 2014, was a first generation immigrant from Ghana.
Yes, and he's the one who chose Yale. I searched quickly to check if I had this year's senior's correct goal, and saw last year's senior had chosen Yale and assumed it was he. lol Very similar interests and all!
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He's an Intel semi-finalist, speaks three languages, is active in Model UN, and began a mentoring program at his high school. "Unbridled resolve" as he heard from his family for years has more to do with lots of hard work and persistence than any form of luck. I would guess that his goal was more about getting into a good university which could foster his continued research and become a neurosurgeon rather than to get accepted into all 8 ivies. It sounds like he's leaning towards Yale as it's there that he received mentoring which has helped guide him in his path. He's got amazing options so his decision will likely not be an easy one.
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Truly impressive and inspiring! What fun to have such a list of possibilities!
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IMO this is a really good article by US News addressing students' options if waitlisted.
http://news.yahoo.com/3-college-wait-list-mistakes-avoid-130000982.html
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Saxon Record Keeping
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Which level is she doing? We found the solutions manual very helpful. When a concept is first introduced, all the steps are written. As the problems get more complex, some of the more basic steps aren't shown in the solution. It depends on the student, but for most I wouldn't recommend that they do their own checking. IMO a lot more is learned by looking at the steps done on their own paper, or re-doing the problem if it wasn't written out sufficiently, and finding and correcting their mistakes. Many students would just take the short cut and look at the solution and be done with it. Looking at an answer key alone is even worse. Math builds quickly in the high school texts and any concepts missed will lead to problems later.