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Posts posted by angela&4boys
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Would someone mind posting the books for Science 3 - Intro to Biology? Pretty please? (Yes, I'm groveling.) :blushing:
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I prefer teaching to the younger and beefing it up for the older. I do this by giving the older independent reading extensions and more challenging writing in both history and science,
As far as whole programs, I think Heart of Dakota does this best.
I used to teach to the older and try to water it down for the younger, but he was lost. It's more enjoyable for all of us the other way around.
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My only experience is with Saxon, but if you search this board as well as the High School board, you'll find a lot of comparisons.
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Cut & pasted from SL forum:
WHAT'S NEW FOR 2009!!
SCIENCE K-6:
Major revision to all K-6 levels.
Presenting more information and response to evolution - God is creator and intelligent designer
Added some bios to learn not just facts about science, but also key people who shaped it
All books reviewed and outdated books replaced
All activity sheets reviewed and updated to match new books
LANGUAGE ARTS K-6:
Minor revision to K-6 levels.
Provided some additional scripting for writing instruction
Provided more examples of written work (for assignments)
Provided some additional notes for evaluating writing
CORE 300:
Minor revision to this program.
Literature Study Guide updated with more thorough notes, and answers provided in footnote format
Creative writing assignments updated
Some titles removed, nine new titles added
AP PSYCH:
Brand NEW program for 2009!
The package will include an AP Psych text and Study Guide with tests and answer key, plus a Sonlight workbook/diary
No Instructor's Guide (this is not a Core package)
Target audience: Those prepping for the AP Psych exam, or high schoolers interested in human behavior and design
IG REDESIGN:
K-7 Core and Science IG formatting changes
Very minor LA formatting changes
No formatting changes to upper level Cores (with exception of the Core 300 Study Guide - see above)
HTH,
:thumbup: You're the bomb, MIch elle! Thank you!
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Can you throw those who are stalking their postman a bone? :tongue_smilie:
What are the major changes? Is there anything particular that jumps out at you? (I'm particularly interested in science.)
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I took the plunge and from what I saw, it will supplement our biology studies very well.
Thanks everyone! :)
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at least that's what I remember reading here somewhere.
Yep. August 2009 is what I saw as the publish date at Amazon.
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I'm looking to supplement science and the sample worksheets look nice, but I'm wondering if they are clear and professionally done? I don't mind spending the money if I'm going to use it, but hate to and be disappointed with the quality.
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Great ideas, Angie!
I am going to take a look at the cell models. I love that as opposed to the jello model. lol. We've done the ant farm and butterfly house before, but we may be able to find a beekeeper... that sounds really neat. I have the owl pellets ready to go. What a hands-on bargain! I'm looking forward to it.
My mom is a green-thumb, so I'm hoping she'll want to help out when we get to plants. I have trouble keeping cactuses alive. :tongue_smilie:
Thank you! :)
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We only just transitioned my 8yo ds (9 next month) to writing his history narrations on his own. But, this was after nearly two full years of narrating to me.
You know your ds best. Maybe you could give it a try, but if you see that he's frustrated, wait a few months and try again.
One thing that helps my ds tremendously, is that we do them on index cards. We found these wonderful ringed index cards at Walgreens and both boys really like them. The small, defined space is less intimidating than a big sheet of paper. He knows he only has to write a couple of sentences.
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I just received a copy of CKEB and I'm in the planning process. I'm hoping some seasoned users will chime in with any tips or suggestions.
I'll be using this with my 11yo and 8yo boys and I plan to have the 11yo write up the vocabulary on index cards. I'd appreciate any other ideas on how to beef it up for him.
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Am Hist with Bigger this coming year (1st and 5th grades).
Preparing w/extension with my older (6th grade) and Beyond with my younger (2nd grade).
Preparing with younger (3rd grade) and HHTT w/extension for older (7th grade).
HHTT with younger (4th grade) and my older (8th grade) can do the next one that Carrie publishes. :)
This looks like a great plan. I love HOD, but we're always a year ahead in terms of ages and history cycles. Waaaahhh!
Only kidding, of course. I've come to a peace with MOH and I enjoy hand-picking literature titles to supplement it.
Looks like you're coming closer to a decision! Please let us know when you hit the "purchase" button. ;)
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He is so faithful! I felt lead to MOH and have such a peace about it. Sometimes I forget to pray, but when I do it all becomes clear.
Have blessed year with TOG,
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I trust SWB... a writing instructor at the College of William & Mary (as Christina mentioned), an amazing writer herself, and a homeschool mother.
I am using WWE & FLL with my 8yo ds. He has been consistently doing copywork and narration for over 2 years now and I have seen the fruit.
He does do a history narration 3x/week and a science narration 1x/week in addition to WWE & FLL. He writes his history on an index card and it is usually 2-3 sentences while science is on a notebook page. This does give us more tangible writing "evidence", so you might consider something like that as well if he's not doing any cross-curricular writing.
My 2 cents, :)
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Disclaimer: We used SL3 for our 19yo long ago and it hasn't changed very much. (Boy, that ages me. :tongue_smilie:) He loved it and still has fond memories. I've only looked at WP AC1 online, but my biases may show through.
My personal choice would be for SL3. I think it's the most practical with a 6yo while still having enough meat for a 10yo. Perhaps the history/geography cores could be just your 10yo's and they could both listen to the literature read-aloud? Maybe I'm underestimating your little, but mine would have been climbing the walls. They would then have their own seperate readers and if you're using WP LA1 for Early American History it should line-up nicely.
WP appears to have a substantial amount more of reading aloud and unless your 6yo really enjoys sitting still, I'd be a little leary of a program targeted at 4th-7th.
I have always kept my middle guys together, but it's been a challenge at times. Beefing it up for the older one has had the best outcome and the least stress for me. My 8yo is a Wiggly Willy and it was torture for him to sit still for longer than 10 minutes when he was 6.
My 2 cents,
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Just throwin' another hug your way. I soooo get it. :grouphug:
After 11 years I still have my moments.
Praying for you to have a peace about it all,
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With all the WP talk, I went to peruse the site to see if there are any updates. I noticed the LA for both grades 3 and 4 has changed and looks to be very customized, removing the need for some of the workbooks. At first glance, it looks nice.
For those who haven't seen it yet...
Winter Promise LA 3 - In the first paragraph, you'll see a link for the sample.
Winter Promise LA 4 - Ditto
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Thanks for the review and recommendation!
We are studying the Early Church now and will cover her later this year.
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Could someone PLEASE explain what vertical phonics is! I have looked at WP's explanation but I don't get it!
Stephanie
A good explanation is found here... http://www.verticalphonics.com/ and click on #5.
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WP is the only LA program that was able to help me teach my then 6/7yo to read. He's now almost 9.
I love that they incorporate so much yet it's not overwhelming to the child:
- traditional with some excellent workbook choices
- vertical phonics (Something I wanted to apply but didn't know how!)
- copywork and handwriting (a little CM)
- high-interest readers (My ds adored the Nora Gaydos ones.)
We were very pleased with WP's LA.
As for SL, my experience is limited as I used it with my now 19yo ds when he was in 3rd grade. The only thing we've used for the other boys are their readers and schedules and those we've enjoyed. My opinion probably wouldn't be fair as far as the entire LA goes because I know it's gone through some changes. I'll leave that for someone else. ;)
- traditional with some excellent workbook choices
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For this age, I love Sonlight for read-alouds and reader packages. I'm not sure they still say it in their catalog, but one thing I really agree with them on is to choose a reading level one level below. I find this especially true with (most) boys. So far, 1 out of 4 of our dbs was a voracious reader.
We were very pleased with the choices from SL for reading. Very rarely were we ever dissapointed. We no longer use SL, but only because I'm comfortable choosing their literature for them. But if I'm ever back in the market or just don't have the time to customize, I'd look there first.
However, I will say that WP's LA worked very well for one of my ds's and learned to read with their program.
And something that's always helped me... prayer. :) I usually pray and make myself wait a day or so before I peruse the catalogs and it all becomes clear.
Hth some,
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One more opinion for you, if I may.
We have used WS and are using WWE. The biggest difference to me is that WS uses original writing, meaning the dc has to come up with his own ideas while WWE uses the modeling approach. This is much less intimidating for a beginning writer and has made writing (almost ;)) enjoyable in our home.
Our two middle guys are successfully using this method of writing: the 8yo with WWE and the 11yo with IEW.
If your dc are creative, natural writers, then WS may be more for him or her or as you said, you may want to try both. Many here have been very happy with WS.
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I purchase throughout the year, but spring is definitely when I purchase the most. I'm buying right now.
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For the math savvy, Singapore is excellent. I have two friends whose children have loved it.
For my middle two guys, Math U See fits the bill. It is straight-forward, logical, and sequential.
If you like a more traditional approach, then Rod & Staff and CLE are excellent choices as others have recommended.
Saxon is designed for the classroom and caused many a frustration when we used it for our eldest. He did and did it well, but dreaded it.
For those who received their Sonlight catalog...
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Thank you Melabella! :)