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I would much prefer to have a child working a grade or two "behind" ~ and really "getting" what he's doing ~ than rush through a text every year with little understanding or retention, just so I could say that his "grade" matched the number on the front of his textbook.
I think he just hasn't mastered them enough to move forward he takes so long with basic single digit subtraction, he gets the right answer but not quick about it. I agree 100% with not caring about the grade. I just want him to get the basics and know them good and not struggle with math his whole life like I do, and I need something that is straight forward on teaching the concepts to me to explain to him because of my weak math skills. I spent all last year on mutiplying and he is doing well with it now. I wish we just had an easy fix:lol: Thanks for your imput and anymore thoughts I would appreciate.
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My question for you is I am not great at math myself and I love the way Saxon explains it and teaches the concept. I really need that to help me teach him. What curriculum is best for both me and ds?
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Thanks for your imput. I feel I can't afford to keep jumping ship like you said. I want to make the programs work. I am just wondering should I just scrap Saxon and R&S English and try CLE but again I wouldn't know where to start. I could finish the summer with some math mammoth or what do you think. At this point someone else's ideas are welcome I am very frustrated, stressed, and confused. I don't want to fail my ds and I want him to be strong in all the basics in Math, and English. Whatcha think?
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:crying:Okay now I am questioning my R&S English. We started it mid stream this year and only about half way and haven't gotten to puncuation and captialization. Is there a cheap program that would hit all the needed areas and uses lots of chances to exercise what he has learned? I am ready to give up. I wouldn't praise God I am blessed to hs but I am very frustrated and confused. I want my ds to succeed and do not want money to be an issue but I have bought so much curriculum my dh is going to kill me if I buy one more thing that doesn't work. Tried Easy Grammar, and ACE. Do I have enough issues for one day or what. I appreciate any thoughts. Deeply distressed.
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I use Mastering Mathematics to supplement,I bought it used on homeschool classifieds. All needed manipulatives are included, it uses fact wheels and counting strips. Each of the 6 operations are in it's own book, so we work through each book as we need to. It's reproducible within your family.
With that said, Math Mammoth looks easier to use and is a lot cheaper. You can purchase Math Mammoth at currclick, and only purchase the workbooks you need. I don't know anything about CLE. We previously used Ray's math ( I was lost without a Teacher's Manual) , Singapore ( hated it), Scott Foresman ( no Teacher's Manual again) and various work books.
We had problems with Saxon 5/4 this year also. My son got to about the 5th or 6th week and just stopped, he couldn't do the work, so we backed up a year in Saxon and add in Mastering Mathematics, he is doing much better. We didn't use Saxon last year, so he was way behind in the concepts, my fault for playing around, trying this and that for 2 years. I do think Saxon is a solid program. My hubby, the math whiz who took math through Calculus, thinks Saxon is great at teaching the concepts,but the child HAS to know their math facts to go forward with math.Otherwise, they are just lost in the higher level math.
It will all be ok in the end, don't worry!
HTH,
Kim
Would you just get something to supplement to get the basic adding, subtracting, and multiplying through the rest of the year and still do saxon or how would you break that up or would you. What would you do at this point if you where me. I really can't afford anymore curriculum but I don't want to use that if it will help my son I will buy it.:confused:
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Do they have a placement test? You could have him do that and see where to place him.
We are getting ready to do our yearly testing should I just wait on that. We have a lot of hs issues. He also doesn't do well with test. I really appreciate your time and opion.:confused:
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You are not failing.
You are not failing.
You are not failing.
;)
Do they have a placement test? You could have him do that and see where to place him.
I have found that my boys don't always get what they are doing. But, after a few lessons they finally get it. That is why I've been happy with MUS. It's clear cut and it gives them plenty of time to really get what they are learning that year. I know it drives other's crazy though. I don't think I could handle all of what is in Saxon. (Plus, I need that DVD). I would definitely only do a set of problems (like odds or evens).
Doesn't Saxon have DIVE now? I think this i it http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/cms_content?page=1722728&sp=59987&kw=saxon%20dive&event=PPCSRC&p=1018818&cm_mmc=Google-_-Homeschool-_-saxon%20dive-_-saxon%20dive&gclid=CMrPhtn89KACFQlZiAodV17GzQ
Thanks so much for the encouragement. I actually cringe when I have to start looking at other curriculums, I am so frustrated in buying stuff and not working. I really like saxon but think maybe I should supplement. How would you recommend to continue with saxon but to help fill in the gaps. Would you get the dive cd or another program and how would you work it in with saxon as not to burn him out one lesson of saxon a day is about all he can take along with the mental math, and fact practice and I break the sub. and addition in half or less.
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Now, I just need to take my own medicine right along with you. :)
:lol: Yes, we are good at giving encouragment to others but not taking our own medicine.
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You are both doing fine.... if he is going to struggle in math he would be doing it wherever he is, home or a brick and mortar school.
Thanks that helped. I did hs not to worry about grade levels and to focus on basics and making them strong. My next concern is where to go from here, as you can see I have tried many. I did look at Math mammoth but not sure where to start there.:confused:
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My son does not know how to do the work in 54 that is why I wanted to continue thru the summer to finish it. I have also gone back to the beginning of the book this week lesson 1 and doing the fact practice, mental math, and problem solving to try and reinforce his weak areas, I have continued with the lesson we are on lesson 52 again I have tried so many math programs that haven't worked I really like Saxons' approach and reinforcement, but still not sure what to do from here. Do I continue on trudging through and finish each book as he is ready or drop this and try again!! Really getting tired of trying and failing.
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Don't panic! We use Saxon too. We just go through the books in order as we complete them. As I understand it the 5/4 is for the average 5th grader/ advanced 4th grader. Saxon is more rigorous than other math programs. As for the struggling with math facts, we have that problem too. I bought a program to supplement Saxon, only because my child needs the extra practice with math facts. I don't think the math facts issues is with Saxon, I think for us it's just my child. He needs to constantly go over the facts. Have you tried working with flash cards or Calculadder drills?
What did you get to supplement? I have tried hooked on phonics math and I had to spend all year last year on mutiplication, which I thought he knew until I started homeschooling. He does get bored and frustrated with Saxon do you know anything about Math Mammoth or CLE math or any other program. Should I just continue with Saxon, I really want to get him at grade level the best way possible and as soon as possible. Does that mean try something new. I have tried ACE, Professor B, Hooked on Phonics math, and none of these have worked. How do I not panic!! Have I failed somewhere?
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I am in my 2nd year of hs and my ds struggles with math. I have been using Saxon 54 which I was told is for high 4th grade avg. 5th now I found out from Saxon it is for 4th grade and I have bought 65 for next year. My son should be in 6th grade work next year and we are doing school year round to finish the 54. If this is only 4th grade I am way behind and freaking out. HELP SOMEONE!! I struggle with math myself so that is why I used Saxon we love it, but my ds still struggles with the basic adding, subtracting, doing much better in multiply, we have touched on division by one number only. I am so confused on how to move forward and any thoughts would be appreciated. :eek:
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It sounds great I would really like to find out if my old edition would work with the dive cd's. I appreciate everyone's imput.
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Thanks. I am losing most of my hair. Hsling can be crazy. I don't understand how my ds made honor roll and math awards and has so many issues with basic skills or what I call holes. Now I am scrabbling trying to find what curriculum fits. I have spent so much $$$ it isn't even funny any more. Lost, confused, and feeling helpless. I am using Saxon Math 54. R&S 4, AAS, A reason for handwritting. I feel like my ds still doesn't have a good grasp on addition, and behind on math from spending time learning multiplying and that is not with 2 digits yet. lol He does not like reading and hates writing. Any suggestions. Losing my mind as well as mind.:confused::001_huh::willy_nilly:
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Thanks what can you tell me about CLP? And CLE writing? Thanks for your help.
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I use the Saxon math 54 second edition copyright 2001. Can you get the dive for this or need updated books? What does the dive cd's do or have on them. Any help would be appreciated.:tongue_smilie:
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Thank you so much your 2 cents means a lot to me. I appreciate it.
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I appreciate your imput. Thanks a lot that was very informative.
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Can you tell me your thoughts on the differences between CLE and Saxon? Benefits and draw backs. Thanks is advance.:confused:
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Thanks I think they both work well for him in different ways. I think I need to try and get Cathy's book and do some research to help out. I appreciate your imput.
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Wow. That really does help. I appreciate it so much, you really answered so concerns I had. I don't want my ds sitting in front of a computer all day maybe one subject would be better. Thanks again for your imput.
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How do I find out which one he is?
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I am really wondering whether this is a good program or not. I am getting a lot of reviews that are not so hot. Like your child needs to be able to type, boring, need supplements. I was thinking of trying the 5 subject curriculum but now wondering if this is a great idea. This is my 2nd year hs and I have wasted so much money on curriculum I thought was wonderful but didn't work for our family. My ds didn't like ACE, Easy Grammar, and many other things I have tried. We now use AAS, R&S English, Saxxon Math, but he doesn't work well idependently and I was wondering if I tried a computer program if that would help. He doesn't type great either.
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I tried the flash cards and cassettes that came with Hooked on Math. I just want to get the basics well grounded before moving on. It looks like the best option for that is Math mammoth. Thanks for your time and encouragment.