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On 10/21/2018 at 10:35 AM, HomeForNow said:
^ Thanks. Is it the same for ACT?
On the other hand, what about AP exams taken in middle school? Do they fully count?
Yes, AP exam scores taken in middle school remain on the permanent record. SAT and SAT Subject Test scores obtained in middle school, however, will automatically be deleted at the end of the school year unless you submit a letter to the College Board requesting that the scores be kept.
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56 minutes ago, TwoEdgedSword said:
I don't know what the recruiting time table is for women's basketball, but for the vast majority of sports, a college coach has determined his/her recruiting class by the start of senior year at the latest. My middle child was a recruited athlete for tennis and started getting offers from D1 programs in September of junior year. He, and many of his peers, had committed to a college by the spring of junior year (many had committed before then, too.)
If your daughter hasn't signed by fall of senior year, I don't think very many coaches will be interested in looking at her in the spring of senior year. If I were in your shoes, I would not factor the caliber of the team that senior year into the decision making process.
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5 hours ago, MysteryJen said:
That is a tough spot to be in. Sportswise, you should probably take the extra year and plan to rejoin the team in 9th grade. I guess I would recommend that if you had a good place for her to play in her extra year of 8th. If she would not be challenged or improving, that extra year might do more harm than good.
I have graduated 2 at 17 (my last one will also graduate at 17). One as an athlete- see my sig, and in girls, the physical differences are not so great (the great gap you see between 18 and 22-year-olds comes with college training). In general, an extra year has benefits but also risks (burnout, injury, academic and social boredom). We decided to risk graduating early and it really did work out fine.
Good luck to you and your dd.
The bolded is an excellent point.
The athletic recruit sub-forum on college confidential has a wealth of information on the recruiting process for every sport. I don't know anything about basketball recruiting, but with the other team sports that I am familiar with - baseball, soccer, lax - the kids aren't typically recruited from their high school teams. The kids in these sports who want to play in college typically attend show case events, so the caliber of their high school team (if they even play for their high school team) or their club team doesn't matter as far a recruiting goes.
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Since your daughter would still be progressing academically if you adjusted her grade, I would have her repeat 8th grade so she graduates at 18. From an athletic standpoint, an extra year can make a big difference in skill level and college recruiting outcomes.
Does basketball have showcases where your daughter could be seen by college coaches? If so, then it would not matter how well her team does. Also, once she gets to high school, wouldn't she be able to rejoin her old team?
Good luck.
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6 hours ago, Ausmumof3 said:
This is a spin off from the sugar thread. What tightwad things have you heard of or do that just seem over the top?
Ill go first. Someone I knew worked as a medical receptionist. One of the drs in the office who was on over $300k per year used to cut baby wipes in half and only use half a wipe unless the mess was really big.
Someone I know used the same piece of dental floss for months. His doctors couldn't figure out why he was coming down with so many infections. A nurse was able to crack the mystery when she discovered that he was reusing his piece of dental floss and that was the source of the infections.
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In the younger years, my kids did baseball or softball, soccer, swimming, basketball, and tennis. As they got older, they all chose to concentrate on tennis. All are or will continue playing for their college teams and will continue once they graduate college.
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1 hour ago, Rebecca said:
O my!
Thank you so much.
In the counselor letter, did you address more than just the student applying?
For example, my current counselor letter highlights my son's qualities- I mainly use it as an opportunity to provide more context for his application.
I do not really address our homeschooling methodology, curriculum, GPA, or anything like that.
Appreciate all feedback.
THANK YOU!
Rebecca
I used the counselor letter to speak exclusively about my child that was applying to the school. I addressed our homeschool philosophy and grading methods in the homeschool profile. The course description document listed the textbooks used for each course. The transcript contained the GPA.
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37 minutes ago, Rebecca said:
What have you placed here? What kind of detail do you include?
I created a couple of paragraphs- but reading it over- I feel so uncertain.
Thank you for your help,
Rebecca
I didn't provide any details. I had a one sentence response to each question that referred the reader to the appropriate document that I had already uploaded. For example, one response said, "Please refer to School Profile."
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I think this policy will accomplish nothing other than to increase the coffers at the not-for-profit College Board. In other words, this policy will meet the College Board's unstated, but ultimate, goal.
With a March registration deadline, many students in the past were able to determine whether or not they were going to pay to sit for the AP exam based on whether or not the college they would be attending awarded AP credit for the course. With a November registration deadline, very few kids will have received college decisions yet, making it more difficult to know whether it is worth it to pay to take the exams. Many of these kids will err on the side of caution and have their parents pay to register for the exams just in case their eventual college of choice will award credit.
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8 hours ago, The Accidental Coach said:
Alewife - I had to ask our compliance officer about your question. Her response is that yes, he can hit with him under the guise of a "private lesson" as long as he charges the usual and standard fee. This 'lesson' however, cannot take place during an official or unofficial visit to campus or on campus grounds. It's a loophole that many coaches use to give players a 'try out'/
Hmmm...based on what this mom said, the hit took place during a visit to campus and on campus grounds. Thanks for checking into it.
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1 hour ago, The Accidental Coach said:
For D3, it cannot be an official practice and the coach may not be in attendance. For example, a member of the swim team could invite the prospective student-athlete to swim with him but the coach can not so much as be near the pool, see the pool, or discuss with the current swimmer the abilities of the PSA. In the off season, the coach can't even say, "Hey, three of the guys are swimming this afternoon at 3pm. Why don't you join them?" This is a violation because 1- the coach shouldn't know that members of the team are swimming at a particular time and 2- he cannot invite a PSA to practice.
Accidental Coach, when I was at the regional ITA this fall, a parent of a high school player and I were discussing the recruiting process. This student does not have a UTR rating or a TRN rating. The mom told me that her son went on a college visit and the D3 coach hit with the player to determine if he would be a good fit for the team. I expressed my surprise that a coach was hitting with a recruit and the mom said that the coach told her that as long as the mom paid for her son to hit with the coach, it was perfectly fine.
When my son went through the process a couple of years ago, the coaches couldn't even watch him play, let alone hit with him. I don't get how paying the coach is within the rules, while hitting with a coach for free is a violation. Has this rule changed since 2016 or have you always been able to hit with the coach on a campus visit as long as you pay for the hit?
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My cynical side wonders how long it will take the College Board to release their PSAT K/1 exam.
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Colleges require transcripts if the student took the class at a community college, 4-year college, or a traditional school. They do not require transcripts if the class was taken from an online provider that doesn't fall into one of the mentioned categories.
You are in charge of issuing the grades on the homeschool transcript, so you don't have to assign the letter grade that was awarded by the outside provider. Having said that, I always awarded the letter grade that the outside provider gave. I also had the outside providers listed in my school profile and stated that they awarded the grades listed on the transcript.
The only modification I made to letter grades was eliminating the + mark, since not all providers were consistent with awarding + and - letter grades.
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On 10/21/2018 at 2:23 PM, Carpe Diem said:
Another question. Can a student sign up through the NCAA & the NAIA Eligibility to see if they have a chance at a Div 2 school as well as look into NAIA? Or does a student have to do one or the other?
Thanks!
The NCAA is not involved in the recruiting process at all. The coach at each college will let the athlete know what his chances are to play at his school. The NCAA just verifies that the athlete met the bare minimum academic standards.
In my experience, there is no benefit to registering with the NCAA until you have a good idea of the division your student will compete in. D3 athletes don't have to go through the NCAA, and the coaches in the other divisions don't care if the student does not have an NCAA eligibility account number during the recruiting process.
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I wonder if UNC is need-aware for out of state students? Three of my friends' kids applied to UNC last year. One was accepted while the other two were rejected. The two that were rejected had higher ACT scores but applied for FA. The one who was accepted had a lower ACT score and slightly lower gpa than the other two kids, but the family was full-pay. (I know this is obviously a really small sample size, but my friends speculated that the family ability to pay played a role in the outcomes.)
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We also use Stubhub with no issues.
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10 hours ago, daijobu said:
Is D3 sports as time consuming as D1? Is it just more relaxed and fun overall?
D3 is WAY less time consuming than D1. However, the time commitment at the D3 level varies quite a bit depending on the program, so the recruit will definitely want to investigate the differences before committing to a school.
Some schools have a period late afternoon/early evening where no classes are scheduled. This block of time is when all of the Varsity teams practice. Other D3 schools don't have this policy, and many times, these teams practice early in the morning before classes begin.
Some teams also travel more than other teams, which is another factor that the recruit may want to take into account when evaluating the fit of the program. One of my kids plays in the NESCAC and the other plays in the NEWMAC. They are both lucky that the teams in their conferences are all in New England. Other conferences are more geographically spread out and will require more travel time which can be a pain as studying on the road can be difficult. My NESCAC son's team also travels out to California every year during spring break, while my other son is able to come home for spring break. Spring break trips didn't factor into the decision for either of my kids, but it was a factor for some of their friends.
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13 hours ago, daijobu said:
My dd has taken many online classes from a variety of online vendors including: WTMA, PAH, Language Bird, and other, plus from a CC. So I have collected many pdf unofficial transcripts from these vendors with a nice letterhead, course name and grade. I want to include them in her applications so that it correlates with the grades I put on her complete official transcript.
Question #1. There is only room on the Common App to upload 4 transcripts total, but I have more than that. I'm thinking about using a pdf tool to append a few together. Any other ideas?
Question #2. Do I need to request that these vendors send official transcripts to the colleges now? Or is it sufficient to just show these unofficial ones?
Regarding Question 1: I would not include any of the transcripts from the online homeschooling providers. The admission committee does not spend much time on each individual application. Submitting these transcripts might distract their attention away from the much more important homeschooling documents that you want to be sure that they read. You are responsible for assigning the letter grades. You don't need to provide proof that the grades correlate with the grade assigned from the online homeschool providers.
Regarding Question 2: I didn't submit any type of paperwork from the online homeschooling providers, and none of the colleges my kids dealt with requested that info. You will want to have the CC send in official transcripts, though.
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20 hours ago, mommyoffive said:
Just wondering what you do.
Thinking into the future dh has a 2014 and I have a 2015. I don't want to have 2 car payments at the same time, but having 2 cars almost the same age it seems like it could happen. Do you keep cars until the run into the ground? Or do you replace cars after so many years?
I hate also being in the special place where you have to decide is it worth it to keep sinking money in or just buy a new car.
We replace our cars when they have over 200,000 miles on them and no longer trust to take them on long road trips. We drive Hondas and the only expenses we have had have been routine maintenance sfuff: replacing worn tires, brakes, oil changes, etc.
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17 minutes ago, Pawz4me said:
I really think it will vary depending on your student's stats and extra curriculars, how set they are (or not) on a particular school and the acceptance rate(s) of the colleges.
DS22 applied to seven. Two were safeties and the rest were top 10 to top 30 schools. We still felt that was an adequate number, given that one of his safeties was a school with the top ranked honors college in the country, and he would have been happy to attend there.
DS19 graduated from an early college high school and had his head and heart set on one university. We were told by an admissions counselor that being an early college student and his stats made him an automatic admit to that school. We still insisted that he apply to a couple more, just in case. So his total apps were three.
Neither of ours was particularly interested in ranging too far from home. They didn't rule it out, I don't think, it's more that they had really good choices within just a few hours' drive so saw no particular reason to go a plane flight away.
I agree with the bolded. I am going through the process for the third time and final time now, and each time has been different.
My oldest applied to three schools. However, had he not been admitted in the early action round, he would have submitted more applications before the January regular decision deadlines.
My middle applied to one school, but his process was the most time consuming and complicated. He was a recruited athlete who began receiving offers of admission from various schools the beginning of his junior year. We took him on many college visits in the fall of junior year. At the end of the fall visits, he had narrowed his choices down to 4 schools. He revisited those four schools in February of his junior year and made a final decision in March of junior year.
My youngest has applied to 4 schools. She received a likely letter from one of these schools. Had she not have received the likely letter, her application list would have been longer.
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On 10/6/2018 at 4:57 PM, SA Homeschooler said:
Oh goodness, I have to say that I am just so over this whole college app thingy. Could this be any more tedious? Sorry...just a bit of whining. This has prob been the most overwhelming part of homeschooling!! School profile, counselor's letter...etc. I'm so tired of generating content. Anybody else?
My D is finished with her apps. The teacher recommendations have also been submitted. I thought I was done, but one of D's non-common app schools wants two essays from the guidance counselor - each essay has a 5000 character limit. I am telling myself that it shouldn't take me too long as I am just going to modify some of the stuff I have already written. It is just a matter of getting the motivation to sit down and crank them out. This is D's top choice, which is just adding to my stress level and my procrastination problem. Ugh.
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My kids have listed summer camps in the activities section of the common app. They have also applied to schools that have their own application with a separate section specifically for summer activities.
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1 hour ago, Roadrunner said:
So would the hive recommend a certain grammar program in high school that will also take care of this section of SAT? Or is it better to just use test prep when time is right?
I have WTM new grammar program but it’s just not a good fit. It’s simply too much. I am not sure what I am looking for, but not a program that takes considerable daily time (Rod & Stuff, I am looking at you). I want something simple and to the point.
My kids went through the MCT program in elementary and middle school. It was not time consuming. They completed one sentence a day in the sentence workbook (can't remember the name now, but they analyzed the daily sentence using the 4-level analysis). This prepared them for the grammar section on the SAT.
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4 hours ago, kokotg said:
We haven't yet, but it's on DS's list. I'm interpreting that section to mean that they want to see the course descriptions that I've already written and will submit with all of his apps through the common app (for dates studied, it's already listed by year and semester; I can't imagine they want more than that). It doesn't sound like they really want graded papers if I'm reading right, although I might have him upload a paper or two and maybe a couple of his lab reports from the chem class he took in 10th grade, since they mention lab work specifically (the chem class was an outside class at an accredited hybrid school, though, so they'll have that transcript plus the one from the state university where he took physics with lab).
Incidentally, he's applying to Hamilton and they have a similarly vague "portfolio" section for homeschoolers on their site....he e-mailed admissions to ask what they wanted, and they were just as vague in their response--could be a single paper, could be a bunch of stuff, we're not looking for anything in particular, just show us what you did. I suspect (though I don't know) that kids who have a lot of dual enrollment grades or AP scores or whatever would need to show less in a portfolio than kids who've done all classes at home.
Interested to hear any responses from people who's applied recently, though!
My D had a positive pre-read with their admissions department this summer. I submitted a 3 page school profile, course descriptions, and a one-page transcript. She also submitted her SAT, subject tests, and AP scores. She didn't submit any additional info such as work samples, lab reports, etc.
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More Changes to Advanced Placement
in High School and Self-Education Board
Posted · Edited by alewife
Wow! Better hope our kids don't get sick around exam time or have any other emergency come up that prevents them from taking the exam.
"Schools have found, and we’ve verified in our pilot, that having a meaningful stake in the year-end goal of the AP Exam encourages students to persist through a challenging class, do their best work, and take advantage of the opportunities they have earned. That’s why we’ve introduced two fees, a $40 additional fee for each exam ordered after the final deadline in the fall, and a $40 final fee for any exam that is ordered but not taken."
What a money grab.