I posted a video on page 6 of this thread

I don't think that is an off-hand comment. This shows to me a fundamental lack of knowledge. The person guiding public policy should know that a virus cannot multiply on a surface.

Look on twitter. The actual clip is all over the place. She said when you clean you don't get rid of it all. And what remains multiplies. ETA: Here is a clip that I just googled. I was watching the press conference that day. The reporter asked her about cleaning surfaces to kill Covid.

When states open back up there are going to be spikes. I don't think it is possible to prevent spikes from happening. What I would like to see is a plan that acknowledges that we need to ensure that the spike in cases does not cause the hospital systems to be overloaded.

It came from the same individual who thinks a virus can multiply on a countertop - Ohio.

I think it is going to be a surprise for our state because there doesn't appear to be a plan for a partial reclose.

Exactly. The fact that my state has no idea what numbers would necessitate tightening things back up is frightening.

Is everyone in your state able to get tested? My state still doesn't have enough tests to test everyone who presents with symptoms to determine if they have the virus, let alone test to try to determine how many asymptotic people are in the population. I have been trying to get my kids tested for antibodies because I think both of them had this while living on campus in February, but am unable to do so. I feel that my state is a long way from being able to set up contact tracing when they are unable to determine who is carrying the virus and who has recovered from the virus.

I haven't seen anyone state that it was a myth. But, in many places, the hospitals are far from being overwhelmed, and the shelter in place no longer seems necessary.

The problem, though, is that flattening the curve was the reason given for the measures.

I also think there in another category who went into the crisis with full cooperation and good will with the understanding that the measures were put in place to flatten the curve so the hospitals were not overwhelmed. Once hospitals began furloughing nurses and cutting salaries due to empty hospital beds - evidence that the shut-down succeeded, there was frustration when things didn't begin to open back up because it appeared that the objective they had agreed with had changed.

Unfortunately, yes. She is in way over her head.

I think before we can come up with a plan, the states need to come up with a stated goal. I am still confused about what the goal is moving forward in my state. Is policy being set in order to prevent people from catching Covid19 with the hope that a vaccine will be available within the 12-18 month timeframe, or is the policy being set geared towards recognizing that people will get infected, but working to ensure that our hospital systems don't get overwhelmed resulting in not being able to treat those who are sick? In my opinion, the economic plan will be vastly different depending on the goal. My state is beginning to open up. During yesterday's press conference, our governor was asked what benchmarks he would use to determine whether we need to tighten restrictions again. He was unable to answer the question. I found his lack of an answer disturbing. I would like to see infectious disease experts guiding my state's public policy through this pandemic, not a director of health who thinks that viruses can multiply on countertops.

My son's school announced this week that all classes for the semester will be strictly pass/fail. My daughter's school announced that the kids will have the option of converting a grade to pass/fail at the end of the semester, even in-major classes, without it counting toward the pass/fail class limit. Both kids are happy with their school's decision.

Does anyone think the K-12 schools will remain closed for the rest of this school year? I think that is a real possibility.