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I think the issue M was bringing up is more one of "providing accurate context" for reading and interpreting non-theistic positions, when they are provided on a thread labeled "Christian content" -- since the thread title provides an assumed context.
So, not so much about 'warning' people, but just avoiding the (potentially confusing) assumption that your comments come from within a theistic worldview. The wrong assumptions about context and 'where the person is coming from' can lead to some unnessisary brain-twisting, I think.
It could (in general terms, not nessisarily this case) help people avoid the misstep of thinking, "Hmmmm, I don't know any other Christans who view issue x from perspective y. I wonder if that's theologically valid... Maybe... Hmmm... No, well.... Hmmm." -- Allowing them to focus instead on what you are actually saying.
This is how I took it too. I've come to know some of the posters' views here so when I read a post that is so radically different from my own thinking, I now know why. :-) It's helpful to understand a person's perspective. For me, anyway!
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You probably could but, as others have said, it would take a lot of pre-reading and some editing as you go. It is definitely YE. I don't mind Christian texts (because we aren't purists about keeping our subjects separate) but as we used the elementary books and the General Science text, I did wonder about what was being left out because it didn't match up with the author's worldview. I'm using "secular" books for Bio with my 9th grader now and the approach to Bio especially is very different from what I imagine Apologia's Bio would be.
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We don't have TV, so we don't watch the news, but subscribing to a magazine would be a good idea. Do you mean God's World News or is World Magazine something different?
World Magazine is the adult magazine. Same publishing company.
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Just keep explaining grace. God doesn't keep a tally book and karma definitely is not a Christian teaching. I think you are on to something when you say it might be a way to try to control things. Maybe you could point out that that is a superstitious belief and not true faith? I was a little like that when I was younger until I realized that what I was doing was following a superstition to avoid something unpleasant instead of trusting in Christ's work and God's grace.
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Made this tonight: beef roast in the crock pot, top with sliced carrots, celery and onions, minced garlic. Pour over a can of tomato sauce, some red wine and some beef broth. Cook on Low all day. Towards the end I stir in some cornstarch (1 1/2 Tbsp?) mixed with water to thicken the sauce. So good over rice or mashed potatoes. If you want it really good, toss in some browned bacon at the beginning!
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Glad you have a supportive community around you!
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My oldest uses it along with Saxon. He is very visual and need a lot of explanation so it works well for him. Today he skipped the Saxon text and watched a video and got his lesson practice correct. He's doing much better in math since we started using Khan Academy.
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How terrible!! <hugs> I hope your recovery goes well and things work out.
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I've never owned a denim jumper.
I had a long, sleeveless denim dress when I was in college. Dh loved it and wishes I'd get another one but knows that because denim jumpers are the unofficial homeschool uniform, he'll never get me in one again.
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The genealogies of Jesus would provide a time frame if the creation of the world were accurately portrayed in the book of Genesis (as is Ken Ham's argument).
Yes, I've heard that argument. I disagree that it is safe to assume we can simply add years together and calculate the earth's age. That's making some big assumptions!
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I've heard of several well-known theologians buying into OE. (Well, I can think of 3 off hand). One of them was asked in an interview how old the earth was. His answer was, "I don't know...however old scientists say it is." I don't know why this man answered in such a thoughtless way. But, just because he did, it doesn't mean we other Christians have to assume scientists are telling the truth.
I don't think we need to assume that scientists are telling the "truth" but they are trying to find the best explanation to match what is observed. I don't know any Scripture that specifically references the age of the earth or universe so I don't think "however old scientists say it is" is a thoughtless answer from a theologian.
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Thanks for getting my wheels turning in a more productive way, Ruth! Tonight at swim practice I'll be doing more paging through my stack of books!
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I'm assuming this will be on one of their shows? If so, make sure you let us know!
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In our state, home school parents set the graduation requirements. Nothing is mandated by the state. Public school kids are required to have three credits of science "in preparation for proficiency at the high school level on" our state's mandatory testing for public schools. The large state university here requires proof of labs and three years (pick three different year-long courses) of either biology, chemistry, earth science, integrated science or physics.
My goal for ds is to have a basic understanding of how the world of living things works. I see it as a definite part of being an educated adult. I want him to have a good foundation in case he wants to learn more later. I don't think he will ever be a STEM major but he might want to go into physical therapy or work as an athletic trainer. I want him to be a good steward of the earth and see how living things are so connected.
For resources he prefers hands-on, non-fiction books and videos. For scheduling, he does better with shorter, more frequent blocks. He absolutely hates writing but I am looking to strengthen this skill.
Cell biology seems to be necessary so we will go with that. Of the other choices you listed, probably human anatomy since he has already expressed an interest there. Genetics because I think he would find that interesting and ecology.
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I'll give your comments some thought tonight. There was another thread like this one back in January titled 'science with living books and not textbooks can it be done at the hs level?' and I posted some things to think about on posts 37 and 38.
Ruth in NZ
Thank you for the link! Definitely good things to think about.
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Hi Cricket,
I am so please that you are looking for something that will actually work for you student. I love helping people tailor out-of-the-box science classes, so I am happy to help if you want. My main impression right now is that you have focused on resources which are only one piece of the puzzle as you know. So the gaps I see are:
What are your goals?
What specific skills do you want to improve?
What are your labs?
How will your student synthesize what he has learned?
What kind of output would be most effective for him?
How will you assess him?
I also would expect biology to enhance numeracy skills. You could use genetics, and you could do some elaborate graphing with some of your labs.
I do agree that you have too much, so you will need to pick a topic per month, and chose 1 book and 2 videos or something when you schedule.
Because your approach will be using many resources, my main focus would be on making sure that there is some synthesis between and within topics.
Ruth in NZ
Sorry i missed this. we were out of town for awhile and I haven't been checking the boards. I'm realizing that I'm a bit over my head so your advice would be useful!. :-) For the first few weeks I want to focus on what biology is and the scientific method. Last week we read a few chapters from Darwin's Voyage of the Beagle. That is a fascinating read! We laughed a few places because his brain seems to go where my ds's does. Darwin sometimes seems to "humanize" the animals he is observing.
From what I've seen we definitely need to cover the cell and its various processes. My ds is interested in anatomy but is a bit hesitant about dissections (although if we do some I think he will be fine once he sees it is not the same thing as cutting open a freshly killed animal). He mentioned that biology would be good because he wants to know how his body works. (He's very athletic!). I want to cover evolution but that doesn't seem to be an issue since it permeates most of the books I have. We know many young earth people so it is also important to me to spend a little time on the theology and evolution question although I suppose that would be counted under theology credits.
This is our oldest child and not very academic. His math skills are a bit weak. He has zero interest in attending a four-year college but may want to go to a junior college--if they will let him play baseball. I plan on having him do some oral presentations (his strongest area) as well as some written work. I haven't finalized any lab plans yet. We still do nature walks and he keeps a nature journal.
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Heidi with Shirley Temple. The boys absolutely loved the novel when I read it to them a couple years ago. Usually after we read a book, we will often watch the movie adaptation. Heidi was horrible. We were all "yelling" at the screen; I wanted to turn it off but the boys wanted to see if there was any redemptive value in it. Nope. None.
Yep. My girls and I just finished the book then watched the movie. My girls were sooooo irritated and disappointed!
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So glad you are okay!!!! How scary!!! That's so great your ds could remain calm!
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My ds is working with a physical therapist to strengthen his arms and shoulders. He only does stretching and resistance bands and it is definitely working.
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Noel Piper (Pastor John Piper's wife) has many book recommendations on her blog: http://noelpiper.com/category/recommendations/
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I really don't see what the big deal is. What the librarian said is correct. Reading aloud to kids is beneficial. The fact that you already knew this and do it frequently doesn't mean the librarian is a moron or trying to be condescending, although sometimes I wonder if talking down to people is a class you take at library school. :-) You don't know the kinds of people she deals with all day. Most of the people who come into our library are there for the computers, not books.
What ever happened to cutting people a little slack? Her advice wasn't helpful so say "thank you" and move on. I don't think she meant anything by it other than trying to be helpful so don't feel weird going back there! :-)
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I ran into this with my oldest and biology. I finally ditched the textbooks and decided to use living books. That approach would be fine for physical science as well. It also opens your option tremendously! I'm still putting together what we will be using for Bio. Too many options! We did Apologia's General Science but skipped Physical Science.
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From reading lists, here's what I have so far:
The Nature of Life: Readings in Biology (selected chapters)
Exploring the Way Life Works by Hoagland and Dodson
The Voyage of the Beagle by Darwin (selected chapters)
Microbe Hunters by De Kruif
Dark Life: Martian Nanobacteria, Rock-Eating Cave Bugs and Other Extreme Organisms of Inner Earth and Outer Space by Taylor
The Earth Moved: On the Remarkable Achievements of Earthworms by Stewart
Fabre's Book of Insects by Fabre
Life in Cold Blood DVD
Anatomy of a Rose: Exploring the Secret Lives of Flowers by Russell
The Lives of a Cell: Notes of a Biology Watcher by Thomas (selected chapters?)
The Biology Coloring Book
Cats Are Not Peas: A Calico History of Genetics by Gould
In the Womb DVD
Fearfully and Wonderfully Made by Brand and Yancey
Human Anatomy Coloring Book
Finding Darwin's God by Miller
Test of Faith DVD from Faraday Institute
This is what I have ordered and found online as free texts. I tried to cover the different kingdoms as well as observation and the scientific method plus genetics and reproduction and the cell. Also evolution including the debate/theological concerns since we are Christian (and are friends with lots of YECers!). I don't have anything on fungi though. Dang it, or protista unless that is covered in Dark Life. I might do The Life of Mammals DVD. I have a few things on hold at the library and still need to look over everything when it gets here. Then figure out how to schedule it all in. And add labs.
Any glaring gaps?
ETA: We will never get through all this!
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Homeschool- Matt Walsh blog
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Yeah, sometimes a good rant is nice but he's not going to win people over with it.