Agree!

Lori, Thank you for your detailed response. My twins both love reading and read on a high level. We've been following WTM's logic stage literature recommendations, so I think they are mostly ready for the leap. DS is way more of a history buff than DD, but she still enjoys it as well. I'm definitely sensitive to the fact that I don't want them to end up hating these ancient texts; that's why I thought supplementing with Vandiver would bring the stories to life and maybe her love for the texts would rub off on them (and me!). I like your suggestion for moving Herodotus and Josephus to History; that makes sense. I also like your suggestion of adding in "Till We Have Faces." It has been years since I read that book! Do you have any recommended myths or books to add in? They read the following in 5th grade: Coolidge-Greek Myths Coolidge-The Trojan War Myths and Legends by Anthony Horowitz Puffin- Tales of the Greek Heros Puffin- The Tale of Troy, Heroes Gods and Monsters of the Greek Myths I wasn't planning on having any other literature works of high interest built in as they both enjoy reading in their free-time, but it is something I will think about. I definitely don't want this course to be a burden and a drag, but I also expect it to be challenging. Thanks again for your input!

Thank you all for your input. It is greatly appreciated. Below is my revised plan. If you are familiar with the texts, please advise on if there seems to be enough time in each week to roughly 4 hrs/wk on the course. Thank you! Ancient Literature High School Level, 1 Credit, 4hrs/week Texts The Holy Bible: Genesis & Daniel --- 1 week Epic of Gilgamesh --- 1 week Homer, The Iliad --- 6 weeks, 1 hr/wk of lecture Homer, The Odyssey --- 6 weeks, 1 hr/wk of lecture Aeschylus, Oresteia --- 2 weeks, 1-2 hr/wk of lecture Sophocles, Oedipus Rex --- 2 weeks, 1-2 hr/wk of lecture Sophocles, Antigone --- 2 weeks, 1-2 hr/wk of lecture Euripides, Medea --- 2 weeks, 1-2 hr/wk of lecture Herodotus, The Histories (Selections) --- 4 weeks, 3 hrs/wk of lecture Aristophanes, The Birds Plato, The Republic (Selections) Virgil, The Aeneid --- 5 weeks, 1 hr/wk of lecture The Holy Bible: 1 & 2 Corinthians Josephus, Wars of the Jews (Selections) Athanasius, On the Incarnation Supplemental Courses The Great Courses. The Iliad of Homer. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver The Great Courses. The Odyssey of Homer. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver The Great Courses. Greek Tragedy. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver The Great Courses. Herodotus: The Father of History. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver The Great Courses. The Aeneid of Virgil. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver

Yes, I should have clarified. We will have a separate Grammar & Composition course which will include Writing With Skill 3.

I'm currently planning for my twins' 9th grade Great Books Study for the Ancient period. I don't really know what I'm doing, but I can't afford to outsource. I'm hoping to read along with my kids and learn as much as I can as we go along. Below is what I'm thinking. Please let me know if you think it looks sufficient for a full credit course. I'll likely get some sort of study guide to help me discuss the books that I do not supplement with Great Courses. Do I need to add any writing component, or just read, listen, and discuss? TIA! Texts The Holy Bible: Genesis & Daniel (1 week) Epic of Gilgamesh (1 week) Homer, The Iliad (6 weeks) Homer, The Odyssey (6 weeks) Herodotus, The Histories (12 weeks) Aristophanes, The Birds (1 week) Virgil, The Aeneid (6 weeks) The Holy Bible: 1 & 2 Corinthians (1 week) Josephus, Wars of the Jews (1 week) Athanasius, On the Incarnation (1 week) Supplemental Courses The Great Courses. The Odyssey of Homer. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver (12 lectures, 2x/wk) The Great Courses. The Illiad of Homer. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver (12 lectures, 2x/wk) The Great Courses. Herodotus: The Father of History. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver (24 lectures, 2x/wk) The Great Courses. The Aeneid of Virgil. Professor Elizabeth Vandiver (12 lectures, 2x/wk)

Thank you for your responses. This is exactly what I was feeling, but was letting the pressure of long book lists cause me to doubt. I've read a couple of abridged books to them this year, but they were definitely not as rich in language and vocabulary.

I'm reading aloud to my three grammar-stage students. I'm curious on others' preferences regarding reading unabridged versions aloud, but getting through fewer books in a year, or reading abridged (i.e. Classic Starts) versions in order to expose children to a variety of stories. Our literature list contains books such as Little Women, The Jungle Book, The Time Machine, Peter Pan, The Wind in the Willows, The Secret Garden, Heidi, A Little Princess, The Little House on the Prairie, The Adventures of Pinocchio, etc.

I'm in the exact same situation and have been doing research to see what may be best. I've decided to drop R&S for the reason you mentioned and plus I believe we could use a bit of a change! Right now I'm debating between Analytical Grammar and Grammar for the WTM. I'm considering Grammar for WTM for my 5th grader next year, so I will already have the curriculum. HTH!

elroisees- thank you for your response. I'm also considering the program for my 5th grader next year. ETA: But also wondering what the dynamics would be if I did grammar with my 5th and 9th graders together?

Thank you for your response. After doing more research, I've decided to discontinue R&S for my 9th graders. I'm debating now between Grammar for WTM or Analytical Grammar. My only real concern with Grammar for WTM is that I've read the first edition has various errors. I'm not super strong with Grammar and may not always recognize the mistakes myself.

I have seven kids and my oldest are 8th grade twins. We've been doing R&S Grammar since 5th grade and I had planned on continuing them through the program for grades 9-10. However, I've been checking out Grammar for the WTM and am considering switching for DD who will be in grade 5 next year. 1. Those of you who have tried Grammar for WTM, what do you think? Should I make the switch for my younger kids? I already have all the R&S books for grades 5-8, but at different points I will have 3 logic age kids and it could be nice to have them all in the same program. 2. If I go with Grammar for WTM for my logic age kids, should I keep my HS kids in R&S or make the switch for them too? They could do 2 years for WTM with me and my logic age kids, then review? Or help me teach my logic age kids once they are in grades 11-12? Thanks for your input! *note: I'm also posting this in the High School Forum

I have seven kids and my oldest are 8th grade twins. We've been doing R&S Grammar since 5th grade and I had planned on continuing them through the program for grades 9-10. However, I've been checking out Grammar for the WTM and am considering switching for DD who will be in grade 5 next year. 1. Those of you who have tried Grammar for WTM, what do you think? Should I make the switch for my younger kids? I already have all the R&S books for grades 5-8, but at different points I will have 3 logic age kids and it could be nice to have them all in the same program. 2. If I go with Grammar for WTM for my logic age kids, should I keep my HS kids in R&S or make the switch for them too? They could do 2 years for WTM with me and my logic age kids, then review? Or help me teach my logic age kids once they are in grades 11-12? Thanks for your input! *note: I'm also posting this in the Logic Stage Forum

This is my first year planning high school, so I'd appreciate any input: 9th: Grammar & Composition: Rod and Staff Grammar 9 & Writing With Skill 3 World Literature: Great Books study Algebra 1: Saxon Arabic 1 Ancient History: SWB HoAW + Study Guide Biology: Apologia Art: 1/2 credit PE: 1/2 credit

They also have tutorials on MS Office. Perfect. Thank you!

Hi, Does anyone know of any resources to help teach computer skills (Word Processing, Spreadsheets, etc.) to my middle graders? Something they can learn and do independently is preferred. Thanks!