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It supposedly teaches (at the end) on a fourth grade reading level so I would say a good goal would be by the time they are 8 or 9. Don't be disheartened - it is not meant to be done in a year! (I have a friend who was determined to do 180 lessons when her 5 yo was in K...that's fine but I kept reminding her that even if you look at advanced K programs, their skills only go up to lesson 105 or so)...just food for thought
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You can only do so much in an hour and a half. I would revisit this next year.
which part would you revisit next year? the science & history? it was a little unclear...
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This is my plan for my (just turned) 4yo this year:
Reading-AO read-aloud list (she reads to me)
Grammar-FLL (easy for her, she loves it, and it takes NO time) 2x/week
Spelling-SWO B (just finished SWO A)
Narration-2x/week
Writing-included in Bible, Grammar, and Spelling (just practice) 3x/week
Math-MEP 1
History-I read CHOW to her throughout the year 3x/week
Science-WTM recommended stuff & Mudpies to Magnets (?) 2x/week
It should only take 1.5hrs or so/day (my goal).
My question is about Math, Reading, and everything else (3 categories):
Reading: reading fluently 3yo. Right now she is reading typical read-alouds for her age. She does not want to read things without pictures (even if it is a lot of reading, she still wants a pic to look at at the end (kind of a reward)).
Question 1: do I start making her read things without pics (as an exercise - to expand her mind)?
Question 2: It would not be an easy thing (time-wise) to do SOTW but do I need to make the time so she will be reading "classics" or more challenging works?
Math: When she started reading (age 2), I thought she would be ready for math too (silly me). We did Abeka K when she was 2 - it went from easy to hard to impossible by the end of the year. At 3, we did Saxon 1...it also went from easy to hard by the end of the year. So, this year we are doing MEP 1 (doing 1st grade over again).
Questions:Do I just assume she is not ready for 1st grade math? K math is WAAAY too easy for her. I don't want her to be stagnant but no one likes to feel like they are drowning...any suggestions for when I get to the "difficult" part (1/2 way through the year) or any suggestions in general? (btw, we may not have the same problem w/MEP but I am assuming since it has happened 2 yrs in a row)
Everything else...
Science and History (esp. science) easily go by the wayside. B/c of her age, I would say, no problem! But when does it become important? When does it become necessary? In the 1st grade (in 2 years when she is 6) or when she is reading at a 1st grade level (almost 2 years ago)? How do you decide? I don't want school to take up more than 1.5hrs/day and it would be easy to drop everything but reading & math (which is what I have done for the past 2 years) but when does it become important to do more than just those two subjects?
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...especially if your other kids are under 4 or 5 years old.
I was invited to 2 baby showers this month for 2 acquaintances. They are giving each other a shower. One is preg. with her 3rd boy (the oldest turns 4 this month) The other is having her second child (oldest just turned 3 this month). These people are nurses and hubbies are engineers, so it's not a financial thing. But these are going to be full blown showers w/ registries etc. I attended the other showers for these girls and I know the showers were huge...I'm not sure what else they could possibly need except disposable stuff. I will probably attend....but I'm just wondering if this is the norm?
nope! not the norm here! I really wish I could have had a shower for my 3rd (was a different gender from first 2). I am on #4 and still am scrounging for boy clothes :001_smile: I have only known of people giving showers for the 1st...
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ETA: this is in response to KateMary63 - sorry, I forgot to clarify previously...
submitting means to put yourself under one's authority. Christ was a servant, yes, but he never put himself under anyone's authority, except God's.
as I said before, telling how I submit to dh is just that...I am not saying that husbands do not have their own commands from God...I thought the OP was talking about wives submitting to their husbands and our opinions on that - which is what I was giving.
Mentioning something to your husband could or could not be argumentative (depends on the situation, tone, your heart, etc.) but I have learned in my few years of marriage that not EVERYTHING needs to be a discussion (hard for us women to hear) and 'ok' with a smile is sufficient sometimes.
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Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Ephesians 5:21
This verse (as I understand it) is part of a large section about the church being one, working as one, etc. and this verse is speaking of fellow church members, submitting to one another in brotherly love.
Ephesians 5:22 is part of a new section, and says, "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord". PLEASE tell me there are no Christians who think there is MUTUAL submission between them and the Lord!
5:26-33
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.†This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
My submitting to my dh does not take away from his loving me as Christ loved the church! I was speaking of MY role and what I do, because that is what the OP was speaking about. Our pastor says all the time that if a husband loves his wife as he should (what you quoted above), she will LOVE to submit to him! It is still a struggle to submit to my dh all of the time but it is not b/c he does not love me as he should. It is because of my sinful nature and (not to blame too much on my parents) how I was raised (encouraged to talk back to teachers, coaches, etc. and NEVER submit to ANYONE).
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That's called mutual submission and THAT'S what the Bible teaches.
Where on EARTH does the Bible talk about MUTUAL submission? I have never read such a thing! I am truly wondering!
As I already posted: my fault for being a bad 'computer discusser' - I am NOT afraid to speak to my dh. I grew up being afraid of my dad and I am so delighted and thankful every minute that that is not my relationship with my dh at all!
I think I sorta addressed your other points in my previous post...
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Daisy, I have decided that...
I am SOO not good at getting my point across on the 'puter and yet, I keep trying :) I do not think that your example is being un-submissive b/c you are saying it respectfully and because you are still giving him the final say...no one's dh is perfect (sadly, neither are we wives) and this is the ONE area ($$$) where my dh and I do not see everything the same way. I am not "in charge" of the $$ - I am just more aware of $$ than he is. He was raised that there will always be $$ so do whatever you want with it whereas I was raised to penny-pinch b/c you never know...(fwiw, we are not in debt except for mortgage, however, we do not have anything in savings either) not sure how to get my point across without going into everything too deeply except to say this -
if we only "submit" when we agree, is it really submission? I could say the same about children obeying your parents...I know others say that is a horrible comparison b/c they are not the same (and I am not saying that) but they are similar (esp. with teenagers - as their "obedience" is more of a "submission out of love").
If my will was the same as his, I would not be submitting, I would be agreeing. When I submit, I am putting myself under his leadership (willingly). Most of the time in our marriage, I agree. Sometimes, I submit. Sadly, sometimes, I argue :( If I do not agree (and it is not something unbiblical he is asking me to do), I will (hopefully) choose to submit and if it becomes unsettling in my mind, I will talk to him about it later but if I say, "no, I'm not going to do it b/c ...", that is not submitting...just saying - trying to keep with the definition of submission...
As far as having adult conversations in front of my children - I think we don't do it b/c ours are so little. We wait to have a lot of our conversations when they are in another room so there are less interruptions (ours are 4, 2.5, and 1).
I hope I explained better?
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What I find interesting about this is that you, then, are putting yourself in a role of judging a husband ("Is this thing a sin or not?"). And I think that is a really good thing: he takes on a leadership role, you take on a judging role, you both keep a check on each other's behavior as you help the family unit move closer to God.
You are not judging your husband (if judging = deciding what is right/wrong), you are only upholding what God has judged to be ungodly or not. We are to submit to God first and foremost. If God says to not do something and your husband tells you to do it, it would be your job to submit to God first!
However, in many (if not most) instances, I realize there is a time to submit happily and a time to discuss things with dh. For example, dh wants to go out to eat but we do not have the $$ in the budget to do so. So, do I say, "we don't have the $$?" Some would say I should b/c I am trying to be a good steward of our $$, as God desires. However, this is not the time to "discuss" things, this is the time to submit. I used to "discuss" (not submit) at this time and dh would just say, "we are going out to eat" and if I continued, it turned into an argument. Or, do I say, "okay" happily? I used to do the first but now I do the later. There are many times to speak of the budget with my dh but in the moment, it is godly to submit to him and go out to eat. I know this seems trivial but, as we tell our children, it is just as important to submit in the little things as in the big things.
So, imo, my dh asking me to do something illegal or abusing me is ungodly and God would certainly not want me to continue living in sin with him or encouraging him to live in sin (though I am not condoning divorce). Other than that, I think it is godly to submit to our dhs, whether or not they take into consideration what is going on at the moment (how full our hands are, etc.). This is one way I show love to him and to God. Then, when the kids are asleep (for example), I could speak with him about how maybe he could try to see what I am doing before he asks me to drop everything to come look at something neat on the computer (for example). It is dh's desire to show me love as well but sometimes men don't know how - we have to give them suggestions sometimes (at appropriate times) as many are naturally oblivious to our desires :)
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here :) (too much, probably)
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She doesn't want people to think she's a "girly girl." :confused:
What do your girls wear to church? I think minimally we need to do some shopping. We get away from buying nicer clothes because they don't need them very often, with homeschooling and such. It would be good for them to have at least a couple of outfits that they like to wear to church though.
I was the same way as a child and my mom always gave me the talk about dressing your best for God...that never cut it for me b/c God is everywhere - not just at church!
We have a belief at our church that you should not spend more time on your looks (what you wear, make up, etc.) than you do preparing your heart any day. Girls tend to spend a lot of time "gettin' pretty" and that's fine, if that's what you want to do, as long as you spend as much time or more preparing your heart for worship.
I would also fight against dressing up just because others do. If the church believes girls should wear dresses b/c of some biblical reason, be open to it but don't just accept it blindly.
No real advice, just to encourage modesty, whether that is a dress, shorts, or pants...
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My pediatrician said, 'I don't know why people say 2 is terrible, I think 4 is horrible!". It did really resolve as she moved into 5-6 years of age. Good luck!
My oldest is 4 and I am kinda scared of the older ages b/c 4 IS hard! Thus far, 1 is my least fav. age (testing boundaries, want to communicate but are unable to leads to frustration and whining, etc.) and 2 is my FAVORITE age! If I stick to what I should do when they are 1, by the time they are 2, they know their boundaries, have learned how to obey, are speaking well enough to get their point across (nothing to do with me).
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Listening is a skill and it is something you and he will have to work on. Only obeying when they want to is NOT obeying. True obedience is doing what they are told when that would not be their choice. This does not just "come" to children. They have to be taught to do so. It gets worse as they get older (imo) so if you nip it in the bud earlier, there will be less stress later.
If your son says no to you, there should be immediate discipline. Period. My rule for my 4yo is that she says, "yes, ma'am, mamma" and then if she has a question, she may ask after (or as) she obeys. For example, "go get in your bed for a nap" "yes ma'am mamma" and do it is acceptable. "yes ma'am mamma" and as she walks towards the stairs, "may I read in my bed?" is acceptable. Saying "no" is never acceptable and it has nothing to do with sensitivity or crushing their spirit or anything like that. They need to LEARN to obey you. This is for their safety, for the happiness of you, them, and the home, and if they learn to obey young, I believe they will be happier adults as well (I was not taught to obey and I have had nothing but issues with authority - not good when you want to keep a job, a husband, a friend...)
Because this expectation to obey was not set at a young age, it will be VERY difficult at first (just saying so you will be prepared) but stick with it and it will pay off. Be inconsistent and/or don't stick with it and you will be more frustrated than you started. Since he is 4, he is old enough to sit down and tell him 1.what is expected 2. what will happen when he does not do what is expected...than you have to just DO it!
Good luck!
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I'd never try it. For one, what's the point? Does a 2 year old really need to be reading? There will be plenty of time for that later! Besides, there aren't many books out there that a 2 year old would be able to understand, even if they could read the words. The fun part of "reading" for a 2 year old is the listening to Mommy's voice, cuddling on the couch part.
Plus, it teaches whole word, and I believe in phonics instruction. Whole word instruction limits you to only those words which have been memorized, and provides no way to decode new words.
I agree & disagree...My oldest 2 started OPGTR at age 2 and a couple of months and were reading at late age 2. It is great to have early readers - reading is such a joy and it's so fun to see them read to their younger siblings. There are TONS of books out there that a 2yo can understand and that does not mean we do not do read alouds as well.
However, I do not like the program b/c it is whole word. I much prefer phonics instruction (helps them figure out harder words by sounding them out one syllable at a time - harder to do that if all you learned was whole words; and learning to read phonetically helps with spelling). I would venture to say most on this forum would agree that phonics is best, mainly b/c of WTM :)
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How does she know this? Did he read something for her? My kids do not read as well for others as they do for me. Some would say that is a warning sign right there but I just (choose to) think it is because they are young and building their confidence.
Where is he in OPG?
Before I could comment further, I would need to know the answer to these two questions...
In my state, children are not expected to read bob books until they are finishing kindergarten...so I guess it would depend on the state and private school requirements as well...
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I look at Sonlight suggestions and Ambleside Online.
:iagree:with the person who said James Harriot's Treasury for children and McCloskey. My children LOVE LOVE LOVE the 1st b/c it is ALL about animals! My dh is so sick of hearing McCloskey books being read (but that is all my kids want to hear these days) - he asked that I take them back to the library and not renew any more :tongue_smilie::)
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If I had access to something like that I would put my kids in it for sure.
:iagree: me too!
When I was in college (Spanish/TESOL Major), I spent a lot of time with Spanish Immersion Program Middle Schoolers. There was a whole school for Elem. students and they became fluent REALLY quickly! My dh and his family are native speakers but i know how difficult it is to learn a second language as an adult so I would COMPLETELY put my children in this (no matter when I decide to pull them out). :)
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I had a near death experience with white water rafting when I was 8 as well. Actually, we were white water tubing without life jackets or helmets (it was in the 80s, duh). I almost didn't make it. I have never been white water rafting since. It hasn't really ever come up, nor have I pursued it. However, I LOVE the water and always have. Almost dying has never deterred me from loving the water, just not seeking rafting adventures :)
I think he'll be fine ;)
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Am I the only one who gave away her intelligence for the sake of her offspring? ;)
NOPE! Here's my latest example:
My car was getting repainted and I didn't know whether or not I was going to pick it up at night (when they are closed) or the next morning so I told them to lock the keys in the car just in case. We ended up picking it up the next morning so my pregnant brain thought: I don't need to bring a spare key b/c they are open now...We were almost there (45 min away) when I realized, just b/c they are open does not mean my key is not still locked in there! So, we called AAA and I waited 45 min. in the waiting room w/my 3 kids who had not had breakfast yet :( The AAA guy got there and I went out to meet up with him. While I was walking out there I realized, "I have a key fab! I don't need a key to get in my car!" So I thanked the AAA guy and felt bad the rest of the day for making my kids sit for 45 min w/o food for NOTHING :(
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:iagree::iagree:
I used this when dd2 knew most but not all letters. She knew sounds first. After she learned all caps, we focused for a short while on lowercase, since that is what they mainly read. Then we started OPG and breezed through the first bit (building confidence). btw, this was all when she was a little over 2 yo.
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We don't memorize w/hand signs but the verses mine memorize (4 + 2yos) are verses they will need in everyday life: Ephesians 6:1, Prov. 3:7, etc. (obedience & heart-training verses)...
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Half a boiled egg, handful of cheerios, half of a cut-up banana
That's what our breakfasts look like: a protein, a grain, and a fruit
Oatmeal & blueberries + fried egg
muffin (I make LOTS & freeze them, then just pop them in the microwave 20-30 seconds) + scrambled egg + fruit
pancakes + eggs + fruit
sometimes yogurt (though healthy yogurt is expensive, so we don't eat it much)
oh, and always a glass of milk
we try not to do cereal - it doesn't keep them satisfied until lunch...
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I had to slow it way down for my first child. I ended up making up little books for him. Sometimes I would use the story that was in the lesson and put one sentence on a page. Then draw crazy pictures. Other times I would make up a story using the types of words we needed to review. Of couse DS and DD were the heroes in the story and had crazy fun adventures. Almost three years later we still have the books and they occasionally get them out to read.
:iagree:I did this after long vowels (those were tough). I also made a little game for her. For a couple of weeks (maybe longer)? We would play the game, then she would read 1-2 of the stories to practice long vowels.
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Anyway, I have had many conversations with her about how to not get into a situation with a boy where he might be expecting more that she is.
Not that you're looking for advice from a young mother who does not have a teen but I just wanted to give you a different perspective: My parents knew I would never let a boy pressure me into sex so they trusted me completely. BAD move. I would never let a boy pressure me into sex and I never thought I would have sex (SOOO MODEST - didn't let ANYONE see me naked) but when I fell in love, *I* was the one pressuring him! I am surprised I was not a pg teen, frankly.
Not sure how to have that talk with your dd but it really threw me (my emotions and desires). I never thought I would need to "fight" myself...my bf and I never tried to guard ourselves b/c we (neither one of us) thought we would never have sex before marriage (we had never felt tempted before so the temptation threw us for a loop). Does that make sense? It's important to know what to guard against and my mindset was always to guard against the boy's desire, not my own...
Just something you may want to add to your "talks"... (hope I didn't offend, just wanted to give a different perspective)
I don't know what to do! (how much, how little, what is important?) Help!
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I appreciate your experience - what do you think about my last thoughts? Others have recommended Family Math - I will see if my library has it so I can check it out. We are at our house all day (pretty much) so that is why I put some type of structure to our day. Without it, there is not "discovery", there is mayhem!