Melissa in CA Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 My ds is currently in 7th grade, but lately I have been trying to figure out how we are going to use TOG for our high school. Here is my delimna... Our ISP says my ds must have one year of American History, one year of World History, and one year of Government/Econ. We plan on him graduating early, in 11th, so that gives us three years to accomplish his required high school courses. No problem. He is currently in Y2 of TOG (7th grade) Here is my problem... My understanding is that Y3 is mostly American History. This would work well for his high school American History in 9th. And Y4 is 20th Century World History which would be fine for his high school World History in 10th. But then what do we use for 8th grade?? If we use Y3 (Am History) in 8th and Y4 (World) in 9th, what would I then use for his high school American History course? And Government?? TOG mixes in Government...I have no clue how I could work that one out with our ISP. We might just have to use a separate Govt. course in 11th. So, I am wondering if it would be best to skip TOG in 8th grade and do something else....what, I have NO IDEA...and pick TOG back up in 9th at R level with Y3. ALSO, I am wondering if we should stop what we are doing now (we are just coming to the end of Y2, Unit 2) and do something else for the remainder of the year....what, I have NO IDEA...and then spread out and finish Units 3 & 4 in 8th grade leaving Y3 for 9th. Can you see how confused I am? :confused: Anyone willing to help me work this out or have recommendations? (I think I'll post this to the other board as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choirfarm Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 There is an awful lot of world history at the rhetoric level in year 3. This week my oldest is doing a lot of reading about the Crimean War while my dialectic student is doing Florence Nightingale as well as American history readings. For rhetoric, they seem to have assumed a lot of basic knowlege and the American history goes deeper but they concentrate a lot on world events. I love that! I don't have anyone overlooking me here in Texas. I just planned to call this year 19th Century American and World History. Next year I'll call it 20th century. I think for 11th grade I will have him take government at a CC or do some other course. I think I will have him at least do TOG year 1 literature. I'm not sure about the history. I also thought about having him take the AP American history exam at the end of 10th grade. That would show he has knowlege of American history. Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jananc Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Just wanted to point out (in case you didn't know): -- TOG govt. is a separate subject in the rhetoric years, not mixed in. If you complete all the assigned readings, you earn 1/2 govt. credit each year. -- year 3 and year 4 can each be classified as 1/2 credit History of Western Civ and 1/2 credit US History, so after completing both years you'd have 1 credit each of Western Civ and US History. The Loom documents on the website are very helpful for figuring out credits. Look under "Dialectic/Rhetoric Helps". As for how you should spend your 7th and 8th grade years, I'm not sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karenciavo Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I'm not sure of TOG government meets all the requirements in your state for Civics/Government credit. In NJ we must cover: The United States Constitution, other historic American documents, and national symbols and their significance Government processes and functions Citizenship: rights, duties, and responsibilities Studying current issues and public policies Learning how the humanities influence society Learning the ways in which a society is reflected in its art Learning to see the arts as representations of many societies TOG does cover many of these items, but I'm thinking we'll do a 1 semester civics course next year because my ds16 will have finished all four years of TOG at the rhetoric level. The NJ Department of Education probably uses different lesson plans than I will use for those last three :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in CA Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 I just planned to call this year 19th Century American and World History. Next year I'll call it 20th century. Christine Great titles Christine. My ISP would probably be just fine with those. As long as World AND American History are taught. That's probably all they are concerned with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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