Mom2MLA Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hi All, We will be using TOG year 1 next year and I had planned on using Analytical Grammar for my 7th grader. However, I am really drawn to the comprehensiveness of CLE LA. We used SL LA (old) for the past two years, and after finally realizing that it just wasn't working, we dropped it this past January. We continued on with our own grammar component, and ad hoc writing assignments, but I feel that our overall coverage of LA has been spotty, particularly with regard to poetry and literary analysis (I was thinking we'd get this with SL, but we didn't, and it didn't come through osmosis....). This will be our first year with TOG so I don't really have a feel for the scope of coverage of the literature/writing aspect of the program. I guess I'm wondering if CLE LA Would be too much on top of TOG? I think there'd be some overlap. How much time does CLE LA take a day? Another factor is that this dd will likely return to PS in a year or two and I think CLE will help fill in the gaps I know are there. Then again, I already purchasd and have AG.... Any advice? TIA, Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIch elle Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 CLE LA covers English, spelling, penmanship and a bit of composition. CLE reading covers poetry, literature analysis, vocabulary, critical thinking and more. CLE LA would cover more than AG, but CLE assumes prior use of their program and may be difficult jumping into at gr.7. You may want to consider starting with CLE LA 6. CLE uses consumable workbooks; I think AG doesn't. I think AG teaches assuming no prior English grammar. Would you use TOG for lit. analysis & poetry? Have you joined the CLE yahoo group and looked at the samples and scope & sequence charts? We use CLE reading and I highly recommend it! Here's the CLE LA 7 S&S (out of order): SUNRISE LANGUAGE ARTS 700 701 Proper and common nouns Dividing words at the end of lines Possessive and proper adjectives Action, being, and helping verbs Verb phrases Identifying and diagramming adverbs Identifying and diagramming direct and indirect objects Identifying linking verbs, predicate adjectives, and predicate nominatives Diagramming adjectives, predicate adjectives, and predicate nominatives Singular and plural first-, second-, and third-person nominative case pronouns Antecedents Lie/lay, sit/set, raise/rise, bring/take Apostrophes in possessive words Prepositions and prepositional phrases Interrogative, declarative, imperative, and exclamatory sentences 706 Adjective clauses Diagramming adjective clauses Using semicolons correctly Using who and whom properly Outlines Writing expositions Differentiating between singular and plural indefinite pronouns Writing an outline Exposition—writing the rough draft Misplaced and dangling modifiers Exposition—revising and editing In/into; of/have; to/and 702 Identifying and diagramming participles Verbs that can be action or linking Singular and plural first-, second-, and third-person objective case pronouns Differentiating between prepositions and adverbs Identifying and diagramming adverbs that modify other adverbs Simple and complete subjects and predicates Singular and plural first-, second-, and third-person possessive case pronouns Punctuating quotations Coordinating conjunctions Punctuating coordinating conjunctions Better for had better; am I not for aren’t I; ain’t Using apostrophes in contractions Who’s/whose; theirs/there’s; their/there/they’re; your/you’re; its/it’s 707 (A study guide for the book But Not Forsaken) Foreshadowing Flashback Characterization through dialogue, description, and action Allusion Differentiating between main event and minor detail Analyzing characters; description and evaluation The author’s purpose 703 Identifying and diagramming appositive adjectives What is an interview? Identifying and diagramming adverb phrases Singular indefinite pronouns Indefinite pronouns and verb agreement Punctuating quotations Conducting an interview What is a news article? Choosing a news event to write about Could or used to be able to for used to could Want to get off, etc., for want off, etc. Differentiating between indirect objects and objects of prepositions Compound subjects and verbs Compound subject and verb agreement Writing, editing and revising news article Comparisons—adverbs and adjectives Positive, comparative, and superlative Presenting the news article 708 Relative pronouns and subordinating conjunctions Clauses with modifiers and phrases Adjective and Adverb clauses Diagramming adverb clauses Punctuating questions or exclamations in quotations Differentiating between adjective and adverb clauses Diagramming review Inside and outside for inside of and outside of Where for where to and where at Using clauses to combine sentences Maintaining consistency in verb tenses Identifying active and passive verbs Changing sentences from active to passive voice Changing sentences from passive to active voice Reviewing the eight parts of speech 704 Adverb phrases Diagramming adverb phrases Identifying and diagramming appositives Using nominative and objective case pronouns correctly Using commas correctly Collective nouns Participial phrases Dangling participles Identifying and diagramming participial phrases with modifiers Identifying and diagramming participial phrases with complements Correlative conjunctions and verb agreement Sure/surely; real/ really; bad/badly; good/well Double negatives Differentiating between phrases and clauses 709 Gerund phrases in various functions in sentences Diagramming gerund phrases Punctuating quotations within quotations Determining which clause is subordinate Differentiating between simple and compound sentences Diagramming compound sentences Identifying and diagramming complex sentences Differentiating between dependent and independent clauses Recognizing compound-complex sentences Diagramming compound-complex sentences Reading a story with expression Reviewing predicate nominatives and adjectives Diagramming predicate nominatives and adjectives Reviewing direct and indirect objects Diagramming direct and indirect objects Reviewing verbs 705 Differentiating between verbs and verbals Gerunds in various functions in a sentence Diagramming gerunds Proper colon use Relative pronouns Subordinating conjunctions Dependent and independent clauses Complex sentences Identifying and diagramming adjective phrases Essential and nonessential phrases Using commas with nonessential phrases Compound prepositions Beside/besides; except/accept; between/among Plural indefinite pronouns Subject-verb agreement Using precise verbs Using vivid verbs 710 Reviewing adjectives and adjective phrases Reviewing adverbs and adverb phrases Reviewing participles and participial phrases Reviewing appositives and appositive phrases Reviewing diagramming adjective clauses Reviewing diagramming adverb clauses Reviewing nominative and objective case pronouns Reviewing the proper use of commas What are people of different places called? Increase your vocabulary Animal words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jananc Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Do you plan to purchase and use Writing Aids with your TOG? If so, your writing instruction will be covered nicely. WA combined with the writing assignments in the weekly plans of TOG will give your dc a strong experience with writing. Literature is also covered in TOG. For each literature assignment, there are worksheets and discussions that go along with the reading that teach literary analysis. You do need to use another program to cover grammar, but any program that works for your family is just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom2MLA Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 I have looked at the samples for 1st, 2d, and 4th grade but not 7th, for I thought I already ahd that one figured out! And, I didn't want to start CLE so late in the game... But, the scope and sequence is what got me thinking that it really looked like what we needed for next year. So, I'm off to go check out those samples..... If one were to use both the CLE LA and the CLE Reading how much time a day should be allocated to it? I haven't decided about writing aids yet. I just received my Year 1 and I have to look more closely to see if I think I'll need it. I sure do like the nature of the writing assignments, though! :) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIch elle Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 and how much they have to do in the workbook, so it varies. CLE reading gr 4-8 are only 15 lessons per workbook for 15 weeks of reading. You can do it 5 days/week and be done in 15 weeks or break it up. My older ds started with CLE reading 7 never having used it before and learned SO much. We currently don't use CLE LA but are looking at it for the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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