LilMama Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hi, I chose AAS for my DS6's spelling program. He has been doing ETC for phonics and is currently in book 4. Will AAS replace the need for ETC? DS6 is a fluent reader. Thanks! LilMama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenL Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) :bigear: I was just going to ask this! Thank you! Can't wait to hear the responses! :) My son is exactly the same. Edited July 21, 2009 by jenL added more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in SEVA Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If he is a fluent reader and you are doing AAS, you don't need ETC... unless he really likes it... or unless he needs the extra handwriting practice... or unless you need a "time filler" for him to do on his own while you work with an older student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hi, I chose AAS for my DS6's spelling program. He has been doing ETC for phonics and is currently in book 4. Will AAS replace the need for ETC? DS6 is a fluent reader. Thanks! LilMama Actually they start to conflict with each other a little. Level 5 teaches phonics units that AAS does not, so I would drop it either way, but if he is reading well there is no reason to continue. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveview Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 :iagree: We dropped ETC and have gone with AAS. I am much happier with the results that we are getting with AAS with the phonics part of the instruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMama Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 That's good to hear. DS6 is my oldest, followed by DS4 and DD2. So, I don't really need a time filler via workbooks! He'll do them, but doesn't thrive on them. DS4 likes workbooks. Yea! But, in ETC book 4, he is learning syllable division of words. Is this a concept covered in AAS? Also, what about future concepts taught in ETC books 5-8? Thanks! LilMama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 That's good to hear. DS6 is my oldest, followed by DS4 and DD2. So, I don't really need a time filler via workbooks! He'll do them, but doesn't thrive on them. DS4 likes workbooks. Yea! But, in ETC book 4, he is learning syllable division of words. Is this a concept covered in AAS? Also, what about future concepts taught in ETC books 5-8? Thanks! LilMama LilMama, Yes AAS 2 works on syllables a lot. I only have up to ETC 6. ETC 5 covers plurals, adding ed and from what I remember the unit syllables. Let me grab it, it is literally right by my feet. Yep it started with ED, then teaches -all, -alk, -old, -olt-, -oll, -ild, -ind then it teaches qu, then beginning units thr-, shr-, scr-, str-, spr-, spl-, then back to endings -ey. It must be 4 that covered plurals. Of these only qu and ey are standard phonograms. It is possible that they are taught in level 6, but I own 1-5 and don't see any of the listed. I don't think level 6 will I think it will continue with more advanced material. ETC 6 covers ar, or, er, ir, ur, wor, -igh, oo, ea, ie, oi, oy, ou, ow, au, aw, ew, ui, and ue. All these are standard phonograms that will be covered in AAS. If you would like to also use ETC you can. The unit syllable part is the one way that, as I understand it, AAS tends to be different from other o/g programs. The arguments that I have heard is that by teaching unit syllables the child learns to recognize chunks of words instead of having to sound out whole words, where the other side says why make the child learn/memorize more sounds when they can just sound out the units. <shurg> Other than ETC I have always used programs on the sound it out side, but with my 2nd dd I am going to use a reading fluency program that works with units in hopes it will bring her reading speed up. I am personally not convinced either is right or wrong, just different approaches and one will click with some children and other children will prefer the other. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMama Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Wow. Thanks for the thorough response! So, I am gathering that I will not have any educational gaps with DS if I just do AAS. I was looking over the materials today, and I think DS6 will be able to get through the first book pretty quickly since most of if will be review and getting used to the AAS system. I think I am going to laminate all the card sheets that came with the system so they'll last down to the next two kids! Thanks! LilMama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen in SEVA Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I think I am going to laminate all the card sheets that came with the system so they'll last down to the next two kids! I know you didn't ask for an opinion about this... but I have one so I'm going to share it anyway. :D I wouldn't bother laminating the cards. There are over 200 cards PER LEVEL -- way too many to laminate! The cards are not handled by the kids, so they stay in pretty good shape. I did place the large sheets (ie word banks) in page protectors, since they are used by the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I know you didn't ask for an opinion about this... but I have one so I'm going to share it anyway. :D I wouldn't bother laminating the cards. There are over 200 cards PER LEVEL -- way too many to laminate! The cards are not handled by the kids, so they stay in pretty good shape. I did place the large sheets (ie word banks) in page protectors, since they are used by the kids. I agree, BUT, I think the tab-dividers are worth laminating. Wish I'd done that, and I might still! Merry :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilMama Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 Oh well - I already started laminating. I am about 2/3 done. Sam's is selling the scott laminator for $25 with 20 pouches included and 50 pouches for $6. I actually purchased it for something else. But, I guess I'll finish laminating level A! LilMama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siloam Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Oh well - I already started laminating. I am about 2/3 done. Sam's is selling the scott laminator for $25 with 20 pouches included and 50 pouches for $6. I actually purchased it for something else. But, I guess I'll finish laminating level A! LilMama Don't feel bad, I hand laminated (as in used clear contact paper) all mine. :D Heather (Who will also continue to do all the other levels too-I cannot have my precious cards damaged.) :smilielol5: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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