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I'm not sure how you could really use the book, itself, for a hs class. Of course you could pick, say 12 works, out of the book then study those. But I just didn't think that this book offered enough of a study guide to go in depth with the great works. But it is a great book!
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Several times and he always answers at the first ring! Yes, he's awesome!
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You can pay her however you need to, but then go to the factories where they make all this stuff in NC and order directly from them! When we lived in MD, I went into show rooms, picked out the couch and side tables I wanted, called the factory (this was pre-internet) and bought stuff. Even shipped it was about 60-70% of what I would have paid. The only downside was I had to wait 6 weeks.
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For both listening and the suggestion to go over to the h.s. board. (I keep forgetting that I am posting to the curriculum board and my dd is just getting older!)
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You know, I went to the wordsmith website this am (and the Bravewriter website as well since someone had suggested it) and I *still* wasn't inspired! I'm sorry--I know you're trying to help. As least you are a CW dropout like me, so we can see eye-to=eye about that!
Ok, so I've been thinking about what I really want. Here is a child who is basically very good at grammar but still makes some errors (going between you and one in an essay is her current one), who is well read and can do the 6 sentence shuffle if she is pressed, who can take a maxim and write a response to it, who is already very analytical and logical (actually more of a math than a literary mind). So what is it I want her to do? So I sat and thought through this a bit. I really like the progym since it's a systematic way to write. Also, she is going to me going through MP's Material Logic I and II (God-willing!) this upcoming year. I looked at Leanne's notes on the kinds of questions she asks her class to get them thinking about what they are going to write (basically the canon of invention). Then I reconsidered the Corbett book which I read this past spring, and thought about SWB's writing tapes.
Maybe I don't *need* anything! Maybe I just need to make sure that we go through R&S8 this spring (more as a check and to cover the finer points than anything else), make sure I focus on outlining and notetaking skills, but then focus on the invention aspect of writing which would be intertwined with the logic class. Maybe I don't need a "program" but instead I need to take the time to figure out what my goals are for the year, and then figure out, given all this "education" I have gotten, exactly what we need to do.
Please feel free to respond! Thjis is sort of thinking out loud! And I'm not putting Wordsmith down at all--in fact, I *liked* it very much for my up and coming 5th grader! Also, it's much more reasonable than Bravewriter! Your thoughts, if you will?
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DD is a rising 8th grader and has gone through CW Aesop, Homer A and B, and finally Maxim. She, and I, are just sort of burned out with CW. I think this is a great program, and it has greatly improved her writing mechanics, but she is so uninspired to move on to Chreia.
One direction I am going in is following SWB's recommendation for the logic years more closely. So, I am trying to make her writing more purposeful and more closely aligned with the ancient history that we are doing next year. (Yes, I know, in 8th we should be doing Modern but we are actually starting the third rotation in Ancients.) I find that CW is teaching her how to imitate good writing, but it is not teaching her "real" writing, which should be writing about what you are currently experiencing.
Other considerations: I have five younger kids as well and going over CW seemed to take an awful long time. I'm still not feeling like she is writing *well* in CW since she is frustrated by it and churns out whatever she thinks will work (which lessens her attn to detail). I'm not getting the sense that she is really pondering essay questions since she sort of writes off the top of her head.
On the other hand, I just went to the Yahoogroup on LTOW and I must admit that I was not overly impressed with the writing assignments some of the tutors/parents posted. Please don't take this too critically! I just found them to be sort of formulaic and without a good command of using interesting words, synonyms, a variety of sentences, etc. (I guess we did get something out of CW!) But perhaps that this is just the style that these particular students have been taught . . .
So, are we good candidates for LTOW? Can you sell me on why you like it? Or can you convince me to stay with CW one more year. thank you!
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That's kind of what it was looking like, but I wondered if I was missing something. Did you find it worthwhile?
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Just receieved this on the recommendation of WTM, but it's not really what I expected. I guess I thought it would be a workbook but it looks like the teacher needs to actually teach it. Can someone walk me through what you have done to get me started? Thanks.
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She wants the opportunity to "graduate early" but honestly, I'm not sure what she would mean by that (nor would I plan to send her away for an undergrad program at age 16! We are in a little different situation than others in that we live overseas so CC is not an option right now.
Next year she is doing the following:
**Alg 2 (she's halfway through right now) and either Geom or Number Theory (AOPS)--So, I will count math as 1/2 +1/2 (Alg 2 + theory) or 1-1/2 (Alg 2 + geom)
**German 2 as 1 credit (OK State higfh school course, so it's pretty obvious)
**Latin 2 as 1 credit (she's been doinjg Latin forever and the tutor I hired last year things she's done 1-2 years of high school Latin--I will revisit this with her before school starts in Sept)
**Apology Chem as 1 credit (she wants to take AP chem at the high school next year)
**Logic I and 2 as 1 credit (MP)--use as high school elective
**Omnibus + homemade Ancient History as 1 credit
**English as 1 credit (R&S 8 but since I think this is well above most US English courses, plus she will be doing literary analysis/writing using the Omnibus books, I think that this works)
*I* would appreciate any feedback on this too! I think it's a tricky questkion and I wouldn't even thing about it if she was officially in 9th, but the "problem" is that she isn not! If colleges don't think that all this flies for high school courses, I'm still pretty positive I can count the math, German, Chem as credits, which is still better than nothing in 8th!
On the other hand, I think it's important to sort of plan out your child's high school career. My plans for her are to replace logic with US history next year and pretty mcuh continue along with the "next thing." I am trhying to gifure out how to add such things as civics (1/2 credit), art (1/2), or anything "fun" if we keep on the same track. BTW, she currently thinks she wants to go into schence/math and go to MIT or Harvardx.
Any wise input for here? (no, Im not trying to hijack this thread!)
Sorry for any and all typos--I'm doijng this while watching th eWorld Cup! (US against Algeria) Go USA!
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Glad I bought level 8 a couple of weeks ago! Now to not second guess my decision and move on!
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He read it as part of our Modern Era history rotation earlier this spring, specifically when we did WWI. We had seen The Lost Battalion (pretty gory, but my warrior son loved it) and then he read the book since the pigeon is the one who saves the battalion. Anyway, he really liked it, but I will say I had to prod him to get past the first chapter. I just read through a couple of pages, but I liked the quality of the writing. Didn't know that the pigeons came from India originally!
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Can anyone tell me how they are different and how they are alike? I have a 3rd/4th/5th who are all going to do Ancients with me next year. I want to add a lot of reading to what we do, and I'm not sure which is better.
Thanks.
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My dd is going into 8th this fall. She did R&S 5 and 6 several years ago, then we switched to CW and she did a lot of grammar through Homer and Maxim. This year I want to finalize grammar with her by doing a "review" using R&S. So, which one set do I pick? I looked at previews and it seems that they teach a lot of writing techniques as well. I'm not so interested in that as much as the grammar. Any ideas? Thanks.
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I think that's the title--by Marguerite Henry.
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You might want to look there. She doesn't answer the exact question, but it was very helpful for those of us inthat same boat!
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I was planning on having my very-mathy/sciency 8th grader take it next year (I was going to supplement with TC Chem dvds.), then take AP Chem at the high school for 10th. Maybe I should reconsider? But if so, what?
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I don't have outlook express set up so I can't tell what it is! Thanks.
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This is a book someone here recommended and I bought it. It's been an amazing book so far, a marvelous introduction to philosophy! It's about 500 pages long and I'm just about 150 pages into it. In the fall, my dd will be in 8th adn we are starting a final history round with the ancients. I'm going to have her read this, at least as far as I've already gone, since that takes us up to the middle ages. I'm sure it wouldn't stand alone as a high school philosopy course, but it's a fun and very interesting read and I'm hoping it helps set the tone for a late logic/early rhetoric stage of history.
I've taken 16 pages of notes so far and now I'm trying to figure out how to use them! Anyone have ideas about taking information and turning it into a unit?
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Feel much better. I guess I didn't realize that I just need to list the course.
Thanks!
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And how will that go over at a high-level university? I'm wondering if I should just write something like "Advanced Algebra, by Scmitt, S. instead. I personally have no problem with the quality of the books, but writing "Life of Fred" makes is seem sort of, um, trivial. Thansk.
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It sounds like we could do this and do SWB history! As for what my state requires, we are currently living overseas so it doesn't matter (at least right now). Good point though!
I think we would do this for US history, and then do something alongside Early Modern with literature and writing so we could make use of the books he recommends.
Final question: Did any of you look at other high school Am Hist programs and compare them with Notgrass? I'm not sure what else is out there and I'm wondering why you all liked this one (although several mentioned the primary source docs!)
thanks again.
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Does the student really need 2-3 hours on this? I would really like my dd to do this next year, but we are continuing on the world history tour according to SWB as well. Therefore, she doesn't have time to do Notgrass thoroughly. I am planning on giving the Bible portion a very light going over, adn I'm not even sure if I will really integrate the American Lit portion. Really, I just want her to have a solid Am history course to put on her transcript. (I think the thing that really appeals to me is the primary source book that goes along with it!)
Thanks.
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Is anyone still using a loop schedule?
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I have four at home and I can't see how this would work when the "teacher" has to give "lessons," and when two kids work pretty much on the same level. For example, I need to teach a "lesson" in SM to three of my kids (two on the same level). would I somehow code the subject (an asterisk or something) so that child knows that before they can do the work, they must seek me out to actually teach them that? Also, if two of my kids are working at about the same level, would i tell them that they then have to do the topic at the same time? (Otherwise I teach the same lesson twice)? KWIM? Thanks.
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