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That sort of thing was my experience in school. I graduated in 90. I remember thinking, "What sort of monsters am I caged here with???" It started in 3rd grade when I was laughed at for crying at a movie where a boy's cat died in the end. I was utterly shocked that my fellow 3rd graders laughed at the boy in the movie who was sobbing over his cat and laughed at me for crying.
I remember all the jokes when Challenger crashed (middle school). They made the jokes as they watched it crash and then for the week afterwards. Everything was a joke. The boys made rape jokes (middle and high school). Nothing was sacred, nothing was serious, everything was stupid or funny. If anyone showed a tender emotion they were teased and made fun of publicly. Lord of the Flies.
I was a very tender kid and totally shut down for 9 solid years. School was an utter torment to me. I found the kids to be brutal and was terrified of most of them. I've told my story before, but school is why I waited for so long to have kids of my own. I thought kids were little monsters and I didn't want to have a monster living in my home with me.
I know now they're not all like that, but as a sensitive kid thrust in with the sorts of kids who laugh at death, it impacted me and made me think all kids were that way. I've grown since then and found that they're not.
But, as you can see, I homeschool. I think schools are terrible places.
Unfortunately, you are correct. School is great fun if you're popular. For the rest of us, not so much.
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That sort of thing was my experience in school. I graduated in 90. I remember thinking, "What sort of monsters am I caged here with???" It started in 3rd grade when I was laughed at for crying at a movie where a boy's cat died in the end. I was utterly shocked that my fellow 3rd graders laughed at the boy in the movie who was sobbing over his cat and laughed at me for crying.
I remember all the jokes when Challenger crashed (middle school). They made the jokes as they watched it crash and then for the week afterwards. Everything was a joke. The boys made rape jokes (middle and high school). Nothing was sacred, nothing was serious, everything was stupid or funny. If anyone showed a tender emotion they were teased and made fun of publicly. Lord of the Flies.
I was a very tender kid and totally shut down for 9 solid years. School was an utter torment to me. I found the kids to be brutal and was terrified of most of them. I've told my story before, but school is why I waited for so long to have kids of my own. I thought kids were little monsters and I didn't want to have a monster living in my home with me.
I know now they're not all like that, but as a sensitive kid thrust in with the sorts of kids who laugh at death, it impacted me and made me think all kids were that way. I've grown since then and found that they're not.
But, as you can see, I homeschool. I think schools are terrible places.
Coincidentally, my daughter is reading Lord of the Flies in English right now. In her Government class, she is learning about Hobbes.
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What level class was your daughter in? Sadly, our school has had suicides over the years too. In general, the higher the "level" class the more the kids truly understand what it means and the more respect (and sadness) they have (assuming they didn't know the student).
I honestly think it has more to do with maturity and how the brain develops with the understanding of death than it does with any statement they are purposely making.
my daughter is in 9th grade.
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I am so incredibly sorry, for his family, for your daughter and for the kids who apparently don't even care. How horribly sad and depressing. So the school just made an announcement over the intercom? Did they offer counseling? Support for friends of the victim?
I believe there were announcements made in person in classes as well as over the Intercom and via email. Officials said the student had "passed away" but it is widespread knowledge that he committed suicide. Yes, the school is offering counseling services.
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My daughter attends a local public high school. Yesterday, a 10th grade boy she knew committed suicide. The school announced the news. According to my daughter, most of her fellow students reacted by laughing and making jokes. I wish I could say that it was some kind of defense mechanism, but no. Except for those who knew him, "nobody cares," my daughter said.
What the hell is wrong with these people?
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My daughter attends a local public high school. Yesterday, a 10th grade boy she knew committed suicide. The school announced the news. According to my daughter, most of her fellow students reacted by laughing and making jokes. I wish I could say that it was some kind of defense mechanism, but no. Except for those who knew him, "nobody cares," my daughter said.
What the hell is wrong with these people?
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DS11 is solid in Latin and is pretty solid on Roman history. However, he needs to get up to speed on Roman geography and mythology for NLE Latin 1 in mid-March. Anyone know of some books that would help?
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I mentioned this in another thread, but decided it deserves its own post.
I have two kids: an11-year old son who is homeschooled and a 14-year old daughter who is in a public school.
My son has completed 14 chapters of Latin for a New Millennium in the past 8 months. He has averaged about 1 hour and 45 minutes per week on it. That is less than 80 hours in total. We have made no particular effort to go fast. We just move at whatever pace he needs to master the material.
It took my daughter about 15 months to get that far in the same book. She sat in her public school's Latin class for about 4 hours per week. On top of that, she occasionally had some homework. In totality, that's probably at least 200 hours.
So on a chapter/hour basis, my son is progressing more than twice as fast as my daughter did.
The two kids have similar age-adjusted ITBS scores in language. I doubt there is much difference in aptitude. My daughter was older than my son when she began Latin (12 years old vs 10 years old); if anything she should be capable of moving faster than him.The major difference is that my son is homeschooled -- and thus can progress at his own pace -- whereas my daughter was in a public school and had to progress at the same pace as everyone else in the class.The fact that homeschooled students can move faster than their public school counterparts isn't a surprise. But even some supporters of homeschooling might be surprised by the magnitude of the difference. -
I don't think that having more school days is the major reason that homeschoolers are able to cover more ground than traditional schoolers. In fact, I'm finding that my son is spending far less time on school-related tasks than he did at his b&m school while actually doing far, far more. I think the main difference is that my use of "class time" is extremely focused while the school's use of it (in most classes) was diffuse at best and they sent the bulk of the "real work" home (all writing assignments, for example).
Yes, I agree 100 percent. In reviewing my son's math homework I can immediately see which problems he has missed. I make sure he understands exactly what he has done wrong. In a public school, by strong contrast, a lot of time was spent going over material that my son already had mastered and my son's problem areas weren't always addressed (i.e. because there were many other kids in his class).
Another example: My son has completed 14 chapters of Latin for a New Millennium in the past 8 months. He spends no more than 2 hours per week on it. That is less than 80 hours in total. It took my daughter (who is just as smart as my son) about 15 months to get that far in the same book. She sat in her public school's Latin class for about 4 hours per week. Excluding her summer break and ignoring any homework she had to do, that's probably close to 200 hours. On a chapter/hour basis, my son is progressing more than twice as fast as my daughter did.
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You didn't even mention how many days are spent preparing for the PARCC - that stuff really irks me - one or two days on the test format should be plenty otherwise you are "teaching to the test"
good point.
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I am assuming that your post is just a vent. I don't think its worth comparing time though since it's the quality of time spend rather than quantity that matters. Even how your two children spend their study time if you were still homeschooling both would be different.
Obviously, quality matters a lot. But is is equally obvious that quantity matters too. Given that, I just think it is worth keeping in mind that homeschool students are able to attend "school" more consistently than their public school counterparts.
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I have two kids -- one in public school, the other in homeschool. The public school is supposed to have about 180 school days per year. However, it is going to devote six full days to PARCC testing this spring. That is on top of all the other testing she has done and will do. Her school lost one day last week due to snow. It has had about a half-dozen two-hour delays so far this year due to snow. One day last fall the school told us to pick up our kids at 11:30 am because of a bike race in the nearby neighborhood. All in all, I estimate that we lose at least 5 percent of school days due to testing, weather-related closures and delays, and other closures.
By comparison, my homeschooled kid attends "school" six days per week, 50 weeks per year. That's 300 days. We don't have snow delays; we don't take standardized tests; and we don't shut down school because of bike races.
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one more bit of advice: If you haven't already done so limit your son's access to screens (computers, phones, tablets, and so on).
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My DS11 isn't big on reading. I recommend the young adult version of "Unbroken" by Laura Hillenbrand. Also try "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.
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I agree with what others have said. Finding quality friends is hard.
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If you like LNM, I would stay with it. I have used it with my children, finding it to be a good balance of grammar based instruction and reading opportunities from the outset. My oldest didn't start with it because it was not available, but my younger two have used it from the outset and really enjoy it.
Oldest DD is now enrolled at Lukeion in AP Latin and absolutely loves the content and really likes her teacher. I highly recommend their program, but I cannot speak to Latin 1 through 3 there. I am confident Amy does a superb job if you want to go that route. I didn't want my daughter arriving at AP Latin too early, so we did it at home with Bolchazy books (in case you are wondering why we didn't use Lukeion for Latin.)
Thank you for the feedback. In your opinion, would LNM 1, 2, and 3 be acceptable prep for Lukeion's AP Latin class?
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DS11 is on chapter 14 of Latin for the New Millennium (LNM) right now. He will finish the book this summer and I would like him to take an online Latin course starting in the fall.
Here are three options that I'm giving serious consideration:
1) Harvey Center Latin 2. Picks up at Chapter 16 of LNM.
2) Lukeion Latin 1. Moves fast, but maybe too much review?
3) Lukeion Latin 2. Will my son be overwhelmed?
If he chooses option 3, we will work over the summer to prepare. He has a tutor who can help him.
He has not taken the Lukeion Latin 2 placement test. Given that he is on only Chapter 14 of LNM, I have a feeling he would not do very well at the moment. Nevertheless, it might be worth doing.
Thoughts?
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The Are You Ready? pre-test is challenging. To do well on that pre-test, your kid will have to be very solid in pre-Algebra.
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He has done scratch, but that doesn't look like programming to me. I looked at "do you need this class" PDF on Python to have an idea on what they do int the class and left my eyes on the paper. :tongue_smilie: My kids do some animated things with Scratch, but they have outgrown it. I don't see how that could be helpful for real programming course though. Seems so different. But then again, I know nothing about programming. :001_unsure:
I've coded a little. I think Scratch is great preparation for real programming.
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thanks for the great tips and feedback, everyone. Much appreciated.
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thanks for the great tips and feedback, everyone. Much appreciated.
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thanks for the great tips and feedback, everyone. Much appreciated.
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I want him to be able to handle himself should the need arise. I also want him to be a confident and assertive young man, not a doormat for the world.
This is not something he wants to do. It's something I think he needs to do.
I know next to nothing about martial arts. There is a karate gym nearby. A little further out, there is a Krav Maga gym and a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym. I am going to visit all three and observe.
Any advice?
Sophomore commits suicide; fellow students laugh, crack jokes
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Earlier this year, these same kids were upset after a girl at the same school unsuccessfully attempted suicide. No, they weren't concerned about the girl's well-being. Had she succeeded the students would have been dismissed early from school. This seems more like cruelty than a defense mechanism.