[If you were to set up a secular homeschool support group in your area...]

Religious discussion being allowed was the one thing that DID work across the board, lol.

Perhaps secular is the wrong word - maybe "all faith (or non faith) inclusive group" would be a better way to word it.

 

Yeah "secular" and "faith inclusive" mean completely different things in my mind.

[Libraries 'have had their day']

we've got this idea that we've got an entitlement to read books for free

:confused1:

 

Maybe this will be too political but I think part of the problem is copyright laws that extend the time authors can make money off of their creations to decades after their death, creating a sense of entitlement in creators that they must be paid for every possible mention of their idea for the rest of forever. (Yes that was generalization and hyperbole, stay with me). I don't know how things work in the UK, for instance that authors got any kind of royalties per rental of their books in libraries, but he seems to think citizens there can all afford to buy every book they desire and that everything that needs to be known is learned at their public schools. So any further knowledge that isn't covered in their schools is optional to living in society and must be purchased at one's own expense? Logically sound as far as I can tell, but I disagree with the premises.

[have you ever felt excluded by other homeschoolers?]

I am always either the most conservative in the room or the most liberal.

 

This exactly. People who know me from way back in high school like to joke that I got so liberal I went round the twist. I don't edit myself well in company because I don't like the precedent it sets. I don't have a problem disagreeing, just with people who aren't logical and respectful. Social groups in my area so far have been neither.

 

 

 

This has always confused me. How is it "all inclusive" if you just delete the Christian part?

 

Slightly OT, I think of this the way I think of isolated race/heritage history months. You'd think it would be integrated into the regular history books, at least that's what I would do if I wanted to make it inclusive. Maybe people have a hard time getting past the "christian privilege" if it's included with the underrepresented faiths. Or they don't know what the word means :tongue_smilie:

[Settle a disagreement between DH and me.]

I'm a nerd, but I don't see what that has to do with whether or not it's funny. My SO thinks it's hilarious, he likes SpongeBob and Ren and Stimpy too and is nerdier than I am. I say it's in the same group as those two, Adam Sandler and Will Farrell movies. I'm not a body/rude humor person in general though.

[Okay, DH says this is weird and says absolutely, categorically, I should say no.]

Since its not 24/7 care for the whole week, I doubt it's a "hide the baby from the Feds" situation, however it is kinda strange to me to ask for free daycare of someone you don't know for an infant. If they're planning to spend time with you between now and then, making family friendship KWIM? then I think it would be a little less weird, but I wouldn't do it for free.

[Portland, OR residents...is the Nob Hill area an okay (as in safe)]

NW Portland is a nice area, even at night. It's also better lit than some of the suburban areas ive lived in. The only section of Portland I've ever felt uncomfortable in was the far reaches in the east by Gresham and ditto not going into forest park alone at night.

[getting rid of books]

Do you keep leveled readers in their own category? Or are they kept under various subject headings...history, lit, science etc?

 

 

I only have Rod and Staff readers, I keep them next to the same level of their English books since they're used together and share a teachers manual. Books of essays on a topic would be in that subject section. I'm not quite sure where I'd keep a McGuffey reader set if I used them.

[getting rid of books]

I organize by subject, then by grade/skill level for textbooks. Every time I get rid of any I drop them off at goodwill since that's where I usually buy them, so I feel like I'm giving back. Most of them wouldn't sell for more than postage so YMMV.

[Is this possible?? Exercise question]

Sorry, got derailed by the talk of cutting body fat and defining abs upthread lol.

[Is this possible?? Exercise question]

Maybe. It depends on how much stretching and damage has been done to the abdominal muscles, how much loose skin there is in the area, your natural body type... Only one way to find out though. ;)

 

"Possible" yeah, realistic for every mom? No. I knew a woman with 13 kids who was a beanpole with no stretchmarks, I've had one kid and I don't think anything short of surgery will give me a visible sixpack. It's a contniuum, and for people who aren't naturally muscular and lean getting a sixpack (even for guys) is usually more effort than it's worth.

[Do you lick your fingers when eating food?]

Yeah, without thinking I do and once I start thinking about it (and all the medical/biology classes I've taken) I get kinda disgusted with myself. I blame it on being raised with takeout and not seeing a dinner napkin until I was in middle school, still seems like either a waste of trees (paper) or laundry/place setting time (cloth).

[How would you go about repairing your credit?]

 

 

I went through FPU and had conflicting experience with Dave Ramsey's opinion on this. I remember from that that we should dispute charges but not be expected to pay off old charges on our credit report as part of our debt snowball. In fact, I got the impression that we shouldn't worry too much about our credit report much at all since we should be working to pay for everything in cash. But I could be way off, it's been a few years and I am clearly clueless on financial matters.

 

 

If you can find utilities, apartments, cars, etc that will accept all cash payments and you have all of that on hand, I'd say go for it. If I had that much cash on hand I'd pay off the old debts so that I could get credit if I needed it though.

[How would you go about repairing your credit?]

Not the house - obviously that ship has sailed.

But if you are a co-signer, it is not "somebody else's" loan - it is your loan as soon as you put the signature on the paper, and you are on the hook. So if BIL does not pay, you have agreed to pay, and you will have to do that in order to improve your credit (unless you can make BIL pay). And yes, people actually do pay for student loans they have signed for.

 

 

Co-signing makes the loan shared, so what regentrude said is right. As far as CD's and TIME magazine, if you've disputed those and it's been denied there's not much you can do besides take care of it. Saying it was a mistake or you forgot to cancel a subscription is understandable, but it won't make it disappear and it will keep hurting your credit if you ignore it. Even if it's not "the norm" I don't think that the fact that other people may not pay off their bills or loans is an excuse to refuse payment on commitments you made.

 

Foreclosures are another thing entirely, does the bank expect you to keep paying on it or does it just sit there like a bankruptcy?

 

I'm sorry if you wanted this to be a JAWM and it's not going the way you hoped. Getting out of debt sucks, but people make it work, usually by not opining that "no one else pays off old bills".

[I can't believe I have to ask. Did you staff a nursery for your wedding?]

Never crossed my mind that either A) someone who was not invited would demand anything of the wedding party B ) that people having weddings invited adults and excluded their children specifically. I need a refresher on wedding etiquette because when my bestie got married we counted whole families when calculating the guest list and who to cut for budget reasons, and I'd never think to invite half of a family. If an invited person couldn't bring her child(ren) I would also never think they would expect the wedding party to pay for a sitter.

[How would you go about repairing your credit?]

Thanks for the obvious. I think over 10 years having around 10 late/defaulted payments under $300 (maybe totaling $1,000-$2,000?) doesn't quite make us scam artists. 2 are medical charges for missed visits ($200), things like that.

 

It doesn't make you a scam artist, but it looks like you can't be arsed to pay small bills so why would they want to trust you with larger ones, KWIM? Banks are in it to make money too and won't extend "good credit" opportunities to people they see have a history of not using it wisely. (Sorry to be harsh, I'm in that boat with you so please don't think I'm looking down my nose at you.)

[Tutor Quit.]

Now that I think about it, I think she may have been intimidated by me a little. She's a special ed teacher- not a math person. There were a couple problems on the homework sheet I gave her that she didn't know the "right" way to do. She could have eventually figured it out, but not in a way that I would have wanted her to show DD. I got blank stares when I explained how to do it easily without trial and error. I thought I was being friendly and helpful but maybe I was the problem.

 

This would worry me since her primary job would be to teach math. If that's not a subject she's strong in, I don't think any amount of Special Education training would make her an effective math teacher. I don't think you're the "problem" but she just wasn't a good fit for what you needed her to do.

["Womb Tombs" - The Most Ridiculous Thing I've Heard All Month]

Does anyone get the impression that some people, K.S. included, spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about everyone else's personal life? Seriously, I've really never worried that much about business that is between citizen X and his/her doctor or significant other.

 

It makes me wonder if people who are that obsessed with that which is not their business have mental health issues. It feels like some sort of obsessive, compulsive, psychotic need to control everyone else with crazy talk.

 

I don't know. I try not to be judgmental, but it just has a creepy, stalkerish, Jim Jones, kind of feel to it.

 

 

 

I think a lot of it depends on if your beliefs extend to you having a responsibility to be a "brother's keeper" and when you see behavior you believe is sinful going on that you should say something and do what you can to prevent it. No doubt some of those people are the whackadoodles who take it too far and do have an erm, unhealthy interest in the type of teA other people are having, but if someone legitimately believes that they have a responsibility to do anything they can to "help" others not sin.

[Breastfeeding is the equivalent of.....]

Teenagers can say really stupid things sometimes. :lol: :001_rolleyes:

 

I've heard many adults say the exact same thing, even going further to say that if the mom ever experiences an Oxycontin release or "enjoys" breastfeeding that she will become a child molester. :cursing:

 

Trying to talk to those kind of people is a lot of :banghead: and :(

[PSA regarding "save the date" wedding announcements...]

Doesn't it kinda defeat the purpose of calling it a "save the date" if it's just an announcement and not an invitation to the wedding? My circle of friends is so small I've never received an announcement for a wedding I wasn't invited to.

[Does a place like this exist?]

It depends on what you mean by "inner city". Parts of the west Metro area and NE Portland are very walkable, affordable, and not crowded in my opinion, you can't string laundry between apartment buildings as far as I've seen.

["Womb Tombs" - The Most Ridiculous Thing I've Heard All Month]

Am I the only one who, after reading the thread title, did not think of birth control but of the social safety net ("womb to the tomb" care)? I thought the thread might get in trouble for being too political.

 

Never heard of this. At first I thought it might be about a medically induced menopause type device for people who want to "retire" their womb permanently. Doctors are all about catchy names.

["Womb Tombs" - The Most Ridiculous Thing I've Heard All Month]

This thread is sort of disheartening me. Can anyone bolster me up a bit? I am home schooling partly because of a religious world view issue, but I'm not out to change anyone else's world view. I want to have places where I can go be with like minded people, but I don't want ALL homeschooling to be just like mine. Where do you find such places of support if all the whackadoodles have been slowly taking over the Christian home schooling groups?

 

When you find out, pm me so I can come too? Most homeschooling groups in my area are either radical unschooling fringe whackadoodles or the conservative religious Borg.

[Would this bother you? What do you make of this?]

 

I don't blame the tutor for asking, but it has been asked and answered. Her customer told her that they cannot afford any more lessons. To bring it up more than once is badgering.

 

This. Tell her if she doesn't want to do it for free to stop bringing it up.

["Womb Tombs" - The Most Ridiculous Thing I've Heard All Month]

Why does it have to be ever more radical every year?

 

Middle of the road doesn't sell tickets/newspapers/interviews...

[Can you answer a poll for my son?]

*I* prefer giving ds a shower for being quicker and getting him cleaner (I think soaking dirty bodies in water without a rinse in cleaner water does not get as clean as showering) but he prefers baths because they're more fun, toys, paints, etc.