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There was not an essay portion on the SAT until 2005. Were you thinking of the SAT II Subject Test or an AP test maybe?
My bad, I had to take the SAT's and PSAT's (mid west). For the PSAT's our school required an additional essay. My boarding school was affiliated/joined with a private college, maybe it was their requirement. ??? But, um, it was a million years ago. :D
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FWIW most historical documents written in cursive are not written in modern cursive - I work as a family historian and the cursive writing in old documents is a form unto itself. In no way shape or form does learning modern cursive help with deciphering old documents - if that's your reasoning for teaching cursive then have your child take a class on reading old documents as modern doesn't help a bit - it's like comparing apples to grapefruit!
No, it wasn't my reason, but I could see value in it for that reason, but maybe not. Is there a name for the style you're talking about? It would be interesting to study. What a fun and interesting job.
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Whoa! That blows me away! I couldn't even imagine. My DD (6th grade) reads about 40 -50 a year. Outlining at least 5 of them (non-fiction), 3-4 page book reports on 20ish of them and a written summary of all of them. Then again, I read at least a hundred a year so reading is emphasized.
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My parents have a place in the Keys, Marathon. They rent it out weekly when they aren't there, expensive though. But others are not. Marathon is great. You don't have the college crowds like Key West and you're out of the Largo scene too. Pacific and Atlantic beaches less than a mile apart, great seafood, close to lots of touristy stuff if you so choose.
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Why not do something edible? A male and female hardy kiwi plant will work in your zone. The flowers are quite attractive.
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I think the idea of cursive going away is ridiculous. I think we are growing too dependent on technology. My kids will know print, cursive, and typing. Latin is a dead language, but I still see the value in teaching it.
Some think text-ese is appropriate, but I think it is creating a generation of illiterates. Call me old fashion.
You have a point. I, too, teach Latin, but not because it's dead. I teach it because it is an exact language, it is rooted in most modern western languages, it's used in science and law, and mainly to be able to read primary sources.
I don't think cursive is exact, with the many styles, opposite really. But, I can see the value of knowing cursive if only to read historic primary documents written as such.
I just wonder if we (the US as a whole) don't teach it for several generations, will it no longer be standard?
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Thank you! You've saved me a step. I was contemplating moving our HS stuff into our spare bedroom, but then the guests would have to sleep on the dining room table, which might cause some issues. I wonder if my mother will mind if we eat in her bed? :lol:
But seriously, congratulations on your foster approval. :)
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No, and I don't think writing practice is necessary to learn to read it, which can be done very quickly in my experience. I can't think of an occupation, except for perhaps historian or calligrapher, which might find it even useful.
Good point...well, maybe physicians, but really is that handwriting? :001_smile:
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I don't know if it is going away. People in the field of education seem to want to make it disappear, but I don't know if that's the same thing as the whole nation growing tired of communicating in cursive.
We're still teaching cursive at my house. DH and I both use it, all the grandparents use it, and if I fail to teach my younger students they won't be able to read handwritten notes from their big brothers.
Do you think that when the Baby Boomers are gone there won't be anymore advocates of cursive, aside from some of us? If a few generations aren't being taught then they can't read it either. Who will we write to?
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.... I'd rather she be a proficient typist and able to get her thoughts down that way as the world is getting more and more centered around technology. I still see college students unable to touch type trying to type up 8-page research papers, and it is just painful to watch.
I agree with this also. I have her doing online typing drills to solidify touch typing. If she's going to do it; do it right.
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I also believe that note taking by hand helps to cement info in the brain:)
I agree, and that's mainly why I taught it. But, my DD makes a good point that when I'm no longer peering over her shoulder :D she'll either print or type.
Maybe I'll follow her to college. :lol:
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Yes, it's going away. There's no benefit to practicing writing in cursive, hence I won't be teaching it.
Do you have any worries that you D's wont be able to read it?
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I don't think the SATs have to be written in cursive. I believe print is fine.
Good to know. I remember doing a prep class in boarding school and the nun beat it in to us that we had to. :glare: Of course, that was million years ago. :tongue_smilie:
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I read this old article and made mention of it to DD. She feels she will be using a laptop for college (like she does now). Her argument it is in the academia and in the professional world, there is no need.
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Is cursive handwriting going by the wayside? Do you think in few years the SAT’s will no longer require it for their essay portions anymore? Are we hanging on to an archaic ‘art form’ when we could be more legible and more productive with print and type?
This is my Sunday afternoon debate with DD (age 10 grade 6). She can do it, she can read it, but doesn’t prefer it AT ALL.
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I don't wear pajama pants, but yoga pants I wear often. I could not care less what other people wear. I can't imagine having the time or the energy to worry about what other people have on when they go out their door. How about a law against deep cleavage revealing tops or rated R mini skirts if we're going to go there? :D On the other hand, how about we all just worry about our own wardrobes?
When I see disheveled people out there, who knows what is going on in their lives? Maybe their husband just left, they have depression, they don't have money for other clothes, they're undergoing cancer treatment, or maybe they just don't have the energy to put into what they wear? I can think of many better uses of our legislator's time and energy than regulating what people wear. Especially when they're fully covered!
:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree: I would have put more, but apparently there is a 9 image limit.
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Just curious?...Are you using HO and your American History plan at the same time? .... Are your kids enjoying H.O.? We have considered that option, too! Sorry to just chime in and drill you with questions!
Thank you!
I only have the one DD and she is in 5th. We are doing both at the same time. HO during the day and US in the evenings with Dad.
We love History Odyssey. We’ve used it since the beginning from Ancients level 1 and are quite familiar with the format. We tend to get carried away and do most everything suggested, hence taking a bit more time.
I’m not too familiar with SL, but I have heard good things about it. HO is fairly intense, way more so than what the kiddies would experience in PS, I think, but still very feasible to jump in at this stage. We use the Kingfisher History Encyclopedia and the Story of Mankind as spines. She reads and outlines each passage, does map work, time line labeling (we have a wall one), she does projects with History Pockets and completes summary essay questions. We also watch documentaries as they become available at the library and we’ll cook traditional ancient recipes (a carryover from the grammar stage). All in all it is a wonderful program. I couldn’t recommend it more.
While HO is laid out similar with the TWTM’s model for history, my self-devised US history won’t be as stringent, therefore I’m allowing two years to get through it. I decided to do it this way because we intend to homeschool through high school and I felt it important to do this introduction to US History in this stage before we did a more rigorous US Government and State History course for high school transcript purposes.
Sorry to ramble. I’m not even sure if I answered your question. ;)
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One HUGE difference is that Hake can be done independently. VIE seems to be much more dependent upon the teacher.
It was! VIE user from 1-3. Call me slow, but after pulling my hair out for three years we switched. It is very 'schooly', you need the teacher's manual from 3 on and it is very pricey. The student book alone is very confusing. One half is grammar and the other is writing workshops and you bounce back and forth. Despite all the tears and aggravations, I did feel DD got a good start on grammar. One thing I can recommend is the Exercises in English workbook from the same publisher, it's basically the grammar portion without all the frills (and cheap). It gives quick lessons and work pages to hone the point. We switched to KISS and WWE.
English is my second learned language so I'm learning again, too. I love KISS and WWE.
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Seton is a Catholic Homeschool Supplier. I just checked out their book catalog. I haven't used them, but I have a cousin who does.
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We’re attempting both starting in two weeks. We do a four year chronological history rotation. We are currently doing H.O. level 2 (about to start the Middle Ages) and it’s pretty heavy duty. We have three ninety minute class times. She outlines, summarizes and does quite a bit of primary reading on which she must report. There is also the time line and geography to keep up with. I’d say there are an additional four hours of independent reading per week on world history alone.
For U.S. history we are going to be using The History of US, ten vol. boxed set. I also have on order several of the Childhood of Famous Americans books. We plan on taking two evenings a week as a family and reading a chapter and watching a correlating documentary. Even though it’s geared rather young, I’ve ordered the whole Liberty Kids DVD set for the American Revolution. My other sources for DVD’s are our public library and possibly Netfilx. One weekend a month we will sit down and do one of the 6 grade history pockets for the time period. I’ll expect her to take notes of important dates, peoples, events, laws etc. to add to a separate wall time line on the U.S.
Because we are in the logic stage, I feel it’s okay to take our time with this, even if it takes two years. I will do a more formal U.S. history/Government course in high school. Our primary focus is world history, but hopefully this will fill in a few gaps. We’ll see how it goes. :tongue_smilie:
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If you choose not to use BWB for tomatoes as a personal preference, that is up to you. I disagree that it calls for attempting to warn people away from it. It is an extremely easy way to safely preserve tomatoes, as long as the requirement for acidity is met.
Isn't that your opinion? Was I not stating my own? I was not bashing you for your practices. Look, I'm not going to argue with you here, and yes, it is a personal preference, which I believe I stated many times. I was not WARNING the OP, merry providing a different view point. Why so defensive? I believe my words were "check into it". Good of you to watch dog for her.
Really, the USDA? The same USDA that has been failing our communities by skimping on accountability, inspection enforcement, and allowing for our food supply to contain an outrageous percentage of genetically manipulated organisms (GMO's) and seed? Yeah, so trustworthy.
I'm out. I was trying to be friendly, but you turned this petty. :glare:
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Psychological profiling? But, then again most have medical degrees.
Records, filing processing
There is a call for internet research in most fields now days.
Electronic engineering, device development?
Accounting, a lot of white collar crime out there.
?? Just thoughts ;)
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Perhaps you'd care to share your sources that indicate a danger in canning tomatoes via BWB with appropriately low ph.:confused:
Sure, but, first let me just say again, that botulism is very rare and most consider it a non issue. I just wanted to let the OP know that there are disagreements to BWB. And again, it's just a personal preference to me. I was the unfortunate witness to an toddler dying with acute botulism poisoning while I was working in an ER. It marked me.
*CDC. 1998. Botulism in the United States. 1899-1996: Handbook for Epidemiologists, Clinicians, and Laboratory Workers. Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
*Sobel, J., Tucker, N., Sulka, A., McLaughlin, J., and Maslanka, S. 2004. Foodborne Botulism in the United States, 1990-2000. Emerging Infectious Diseases, 10:1606-1611.
Is cursive going away?
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Oh shoot, maybe it was the ACT's.... Oh my goodness. I really am old. Now, where did I put my kid?? :lol: