Well, perusing the forums and saw this. My dd is 11 in 2 wks. She reads now. But BOY does she have problems--very hard to get things in her memory. Yet she can chant grammar lists or learn songs, quick. Still doesnt know what Im saying until the 4th time repeating it...ok, not always, but waaaaay too often. We looked into her executive functioning also but it was too pricey to continue. Shes got SPD, VPD, APD. What else can I label her with? Sweet and adorable, except when shes frustrated, which is often. Then we call her Ginna (our local nuke plant, think Chernobyl). :0

Yes, that's it! And I found out the other book is The Latin-Centered Curr by Campbell. I dont want it if I cant get it on Kindle tho. Dang. These authors that aren't on Kindle are gonna make me nuts lol Ok, I already am, with my huge memory issues :p Thanx for your help!

Is this that book that gives the WHY or is the other book (can't remember the name) the one that is more practical? And while I"m asking---where have I seen this? I used to know where to buy it when I was ready to read it; not any longer... Sorry I have a bad case of alzheimer's tonite and just know I want to read the blasted book(s) now and can't find them on Memoria Press, at Circe Institute, Veritas Press, here at Peace Hill, in Rainbow Resource catalog, ANYwhere :(

especially if college level writing is the goal, being able to write WELL very EASILY (hence, Writing with Ease series and so on) is the key. Having the how-to, the grammar of writing down b4 u enter the sacred halls of higher learning will put u light yrs ahead of ur peers. u can master the info and almost conversationally do your papers. at least the ease of it, not the tone of it. Its from thousands of pieces of compositions you've dun for the 12 yrs preceeding. u write effortlessly and ur grammar is correct naturally, ur mechanics are flawless. u can concentrate on the material ur learning and expressing that learning to ur teacher in composition. no matter what field u enter. now science lab reports are in a class of "writing" all their own. they have nothing to do with reality and a trained monkey cud be taught to do it. u don't think; u follow precise parameters...there is a convention as to whether ur graphs can have a border around them, for goodness sakes! good teachers demand it of their freshman students and thru writing 4 or 5 a semester u get better, even if it's still stilted and painful to the reader lol. my gen biol teacher had us use an excellent guide to writing biol lab reports and basically told us EXACTLY what to write for the first 2 or 3 reports. Some students were too stupid to take notes during said informative sessions, but if u did, it was an auto A <duh>. I also took it upon myself to visit her b4 each report and get input or needed help (I officially hate Excel now). LIke a mom guiding a student thru yrs of practice till its automated, the college prof was willing to do this, albeit on a shortened timeline. I had to learn QUICK. im a self learner and have studied learning a lot in my yrs of HSling now (over 25 yrs) so I did it, but any motivated young adult shud be able to handle it too---shoot theyre not fighting senility from old age at the same time lol. a better use of time, once u get ur degree is to write for the layperson so ur info can spread to the masses. that means interesting & provocative, yet annotated; something that u cud learn in the first 12 yrs when HSled!

Alphaphonics! and use Phonics for Reading and Spelling (by B. Detmer found at RainbowResource.com) instead of Writing Road to Reading <ugh> or even Spell to Read and Write. Ph4R&Sp is much more HSler friendly. All in one book with flowcharts for each grade. Both are ageless in methodology. I would love to teach illiterate adults or be a TESOL teacher and use Alphaphonics. Don Potts site is WOW. Links to all kinds of crazy English language stuff too. LOVE THAT SITE.

I read a bunch of these Montessori classics back when my now 8yo was a toddler. Thot it sounded great and made a lot of materials for her myself. Life happened then for a few yrs and then I went back to other methodologies once I got back to intense HSling. We haven't don't a lot of grammar period still. She is severely challenged in reading as it happens. I researched hours online and studied intently the curricula of Montessori-teacher schools and the things they can make themselves. Like miquon math, they want u to make ur own teachers edition so u really get it. I just didn't have the time and money (little tho it would be) to do it. Winston grammar is a Montessori-outlook in my opinion (ive used it with other children) and Right Start math is by a Montessori teacher too. Mommy Its A Renoir is art study for little kids by a Montessori teacher too.

what do u do for grammar after 4th grade? I see no plans to write a grammar texts for after 4th grade either. Do Jessie and Susan just think the Rod & Staff English bks are good and we should use those thru high school? Or at least 8th grade...im not sure grammar in high school is necessary after 8 yrs of formal study b4hand!

Dianne Craft has not been mentioned at all in the posts. Her therapy is done at home by the parents. Used with auditory & visual processing issues and dysgraphia--hates to compose or even copy from a board or book. I am currently using it. the CVPD eye dr we went to did the eval, said yep shes got issues and then wont get back to me now. Becuz I have no way to pay for therapy lol. An audiologist told me to get a CAPD also. Either way tho, after im done with the visual therapy, ill do the auditory exercises. Getting a CAPD eval is quite difficult around here. Understanding exactly wat is going on with processing disorders, I know why my dd can sound out cat in the same sentence, slowly and painfully. She never puts anything in her memory. Shes 8 and has a reading word memory of about ten words. The only thing that will work is Dianne Crafts method, or something like it. We only use Orton-Gillingham phonics (Writing road to reading style) here. It's not a reading methodology issue. Her brain is incapable of learning to read by conventional methods. we are fixing that, ideally. I have high hopes this will actually retrain her brain to WORK.

I used MM with my 3 older kids, all the way thru. Then we went into the Key To books, by the same authors. We went to Saxon 65 after that while I toyed around with writing a homeschool friendly math curr at least to Alg 1, using the rods...then I discovered MUS. Voíla, someone had beat me to it lol I am using MM again with my younger ones, BUT then I decided to get Beta MUS for my 8yo as I had been inconsistent with her, due to work pressures, and wanted to just have something easy to not have to think about. My youngest is going to finish up the MM bks I have still and then she's going into MUS also. SOOO much easier. I LOVE MM, but unless u have just one kid, who loves math btw, the MUS is just fine. My oldest used MM as a discovery math lab, the other 2 older kids, didn't discover anything; they hated math thru high school. My 2nd oldest, in fact, in college, was traumatized by the 2 math courses she had to take. She is linguistically-gifted, but math aint her forte. I hated math in school also. I learned A TON using MM. But I think I wud have learnt it thru MUS and its so much easier day to day.

update: she seems to be pretty consistently reading the Bob bks. (very simple bks). It seems tortuous to me sounding out SAT or BLOP just about every time, but she's not complaining and even enjoying the stories. reads 3 bks at a time. usually corrects herself with her <b> & <d> reversals. but her visual memory seems to be wat is lacking, Tremendously. I dont teach sight words at all, but we do (un-aware) use our memory for many words wen we read. the consistency is wats encouraging to me. she knows all the phonograms if u hold up the cards and shes been blending letters into words since age 4 or 5...but she cant read still...??? maybe the age thing will work with her...she'll be 8.5yo Dec 9th <crossingfingers>

HA! my oldest daughter hears colors...to start her many "differences" lol Wudnt it be sumthing if this dd also had sum synethesia going on too? then again, my oldest dd read quickly...

<<DD 2 Honestly? Watching too much Elmo on my phone.>> :rofl: been there, dun that! well it was 20 yrs ago, so it Mr Rogers and Captain Kangaroo on PBS but... wat helped us was to assign someone to do stuff with her while i was with another kid or showering, etc. bingo! i had a rotating schedule of who was with me for an allotted time and who was with her and who working alone. ...a la Managers of Their Homes...but b4 it came out lol

Sara in AZ--isnt Dianne amazing?? she HSled her son and then went into institutional skl to teach remedial students for the last 25 yrs. so shes on it! lol she actually RESOLVES the neurological issues, not just teaches them coping strategies. TRUE FREEDOM to go on to LEARN!

yes going to get some transparencies down at staples and try them. the book(s) dianne offers online are also much less expensive than therapy by an paid employee.

now i am starting to wonder if the COVD dr said she doesnt need vision therapy as its soooo expensive that i bet its just that medicaid wont cover it :( dianne craft says vision therapy is wonderful but unaffordable for most families. if u cud do her program and vision therapy, shes says all the better. makes one wonder, eh?