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What little I have learned about Charlotte Mason so far is that she believes children should be allowed to use things in the home to learn. The baking with you brought that to mind.
I like some Waldorf ideas too.
What I have been doing since last year is using play to help her learn things. Just in play so many things come up. this year I plan to get a bit more structured but not by much really. We also take advantage of free community programs, which tend to be more Montessori or Waldorf in nature.
No I am not one of those moms that wear a jumper and hides her child away during the school day. LOL We are very active and spend a lot of time at the zoo and going to places that interest her. We also have a wonderful local and active homeschool community.
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Your Uncle Marvin is a very blessed man. God bless your aunt for her devotion to him. "In sickness and in health, until death parts us". That's what I signed on for. I pray we are never faced with what your aunt and uncle are going through, but if we do, I will do my best to care for Patrick. If I can't, I will find someone to help me.
And that is submission. :001_smile: in part anyway. BTW Uncle Marvin has been gone for 3 yrs now and Aunt Jenny has moved forward in her life, but she never for a moment regrets what she did, she doesn't even see that some would have thought her insane, even when the state came in and tried to limit her time doing for him. Signing up for better or worse, sickness and health is submitting your own will or desires for the sake of the man or woman you have pledged to love. I just personally don't see the evil, though I know it does exist.
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I've been doing some things informally with my daughter. I've been trying to come up with more to do with her since I've discovered that she is happier and better behaved for the rest of the day if she has some one-on-one time with me and something to occupy her mind and her hands each morning. Here's what I've got so far:
lots of coloring, cutting, pasting, watercolors
tons of storybooks, occasionally doing the activities for a book from Before Five in a Row
counting everything, everywhere, and talking and singing about letter sounds
Starfall (together with Mommy, only, since she colored on the keyboard)
scooping and pouring dried peas, playing with playdough, sorting buttons into a muffin tin, sorting easter eggs by color
free Musicgarten with a lady from church, but it's off for the summer
Candyland
pattern blocks--just found these at a garage sale. My daughter can do them, but she doesn't really have the stamina to finish a whole pattern most of the time, yet
knuts, bolts, and washers--sorting, screwing, and 'making music'
I'm teaching a summer art class for free for some friends' kids, and in exchange their moms pay for all the art supplies and my daughter gets to participate without paying for supplies
I'm making up some phonics games for her, but I haven't had a chance to see how she likes them, yet
This sounds like most of last year and I think it sounds wonderful! Why do we feel children must read and do all sorts of workbooks so young! My daughter still looks like a little preschooler still! LOL
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She is not ready to hold a pencil either. I would like work on numbers to 10 and use Leap Frog for the ABC's. From her point of view I want this yr to be all about playing.
A want my daughter to view this year as one of play too. :001_smile: Still working on getting completely potty trained. :D Last year I did feel pressure from some, even if it was just my "feelings" and this year I feel pretty secure that how we plan to go forward is working right now.
I haven't looked a whole lot at curriculum, I am kind of just designing our own. I have been picking up books for years. The stuff I look at I get overwhelmed!
She begs to knit though, so I need to refresh my memory on that and maybe spend some cuddle time in the evenings doing that. She will be 4 in August and that seems young, but she found some old yarn and knitting needles and tried to copy a mom we know that does knit a lot.
Oak Meadow for K sounds interesting.
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I have often wondered myself...... It's one of the great mysteries......:D
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I would not want to be in a marriage where things were 50/50. I give 100% as does my husband. This 50/50 thing is just wrong. I know most of you don't mean each of you only give 50% but this kind of talk is one of the things that the young hear and then think they don't need to work hard in a marriage and so divorce when the going gets tough.
I have talked to so many young divorced or separated men and women it's sad. No I am not a counselor, though I do have a degree in human services and several certificates in related fields...step families, life span studies, etc. So I am not without some understanding. No my masters is not in the field either, unless HR counts.... LOL sometimes it does with all the conflict.
anyway, I digress, the idea of 50/50 just ruffles my feathers and no one, it seems, understands that marriage isn't and never will be 50/50. Sometimes in a successful and loving marriage one partner gives 150 or even 200%. This does not mean anything except a love like no other. My aunt gave 200% to my Uncle Marvin after his stroke. She cared for his daily needs, changed his wet bed sheets, etc. She never gave a thought to giving more than her share. Her love for him made her submit to his needs. She gave up her own needs in many cases because of a deep love for him. She did this for several years. How many of you here would willingly do this? Regardless of what you think submit means.
We women are told to be like the Proverbs 31 wife. Frankly she was so stinkin busy, with things she wanted to do, that I have no idea how she found time for a potty break, but in that passage I see nothing about the submission that many here are discussing.
I will include the NIV version here because most seem to read it.
10 [a]A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.
13 She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.
14 She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants.
16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17 She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.
20 She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.
21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.
22 She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.
23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.
24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.
25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.
26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.
27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.
28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:
29 “Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all.â€
30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.
31 Honor her for all that her hands have done,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.
Verse 28 really bring into consideration what "submission" in the Biblical sense might be. If a man is "beating" his wife into submission (as is implied by many what the term means) would he really be in praise for her. The passage mentions honor too. Honor has little to do with the type of submission many here describe. She seems to have her own money to spend as she pleases (does this jive with your view of what Biblical submission is?). Another thing that strikes me as being the direct opposite of what some view Biblical submission of the wife as, the Proverbs 31 husband has COMPLETE confidence in her. She sounds like she can come and go as she pleases, has her own money, is praised by her family and the town folks, her wisdom is most likely sought by others, etc. This does not sound like a woman who is browbeat. I don't know, I'm just saying.
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I went on a colon cleanse juice fast about 15 yrs ago. It was horrid but only in the morning..... I found out prune juice makes me gag...... and it was a pain and by the third day I was ready to kill myself. Otherwise the juice and water left me not hungry and I did feel energized. Just didn't lose the "waste" I expected. LOL
We keep talking about doing one again, and I have wondered about the master cleanse.... I bought a champion juicer this spring......
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I also want to add, I have read the bible for submissive wifes, the Fascinating Womanhood... I also read her young girls version which wasn't as strong as the Womanhood one, if memory serves me right....
Anyway, IMHO Andelin, the author, does much to damage what submission means really. In a study group I was in one woman was told that her husband drank because she wasn't submissive and fascinating enough.
I would share with my husband and he always said it was bullarky. But continue I did. My husband has a habit of forgetting or putting things off, we spent (and sometimes I still wonder) several years in angst over this. When he would forget or put something off until very late, or I would end up doing it so it would be done on time, that I was doing something wrong as a wife. This bugged my husband and would upset him. He would try to assure me that it had nothing to do with me, but rather it was something he had always dealt with. It was just a part of who he was.
So I can understand why some do view submission with hatred or venom, but I also want to assure you, that such thoughts are not, in my personal experience, the norm in a Husband Headship house, at least not ours.
I am against book burning, but a big part of me thinks this book should be. It has hurt many. That woman I mentioned should never have been told her husbands mental and alcoholic issues were because of her behavior or lack there of. Drinking in excess is a personal issue and no one can make someone stop except the person doing the drinking.
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Any other ones out there?
My daughter will be 4 in August. This past year we have kind of played everything by ear and mostly child led, lots and lots of play with a purpose.
My ideas for this year are:
I think we will be doing a modified Charlotte Mason (and a little other things) I think I am more eclectic :tongue_smilie:, we will see how dd is. We will be starting prek-k. Working a lot on sensory exercises, holding off forcing the pencil issue which we keep having trouble with (the holding of it to write letters) and working more on tracing in flour and sand etc. That will be our English/language arts. Work on the phonics program I found based on zoo animals. Also we will be using some of the books from CM's list of good "living books" for 4 yr olds.
History will be various unit studies surrounding some major holidays and I will be reading the Light and The glory to her. In that will also be learning about states.
Math will be nature and home ec based.
Science will be with the local Homeschool nature club and other child lead areas. In the Nature club we will be doing journaling and I am also looking into lap books.... maybe for this and history.
Music will hopefully be a few classes through the local symphony if funds hold out. and continuing with classical and jazz listening for pleasure. plus some circle/couch time songs and stories.
arts will be continuing with ballet and various projects (art is never an issue we love art).
we will also be cont in Little Gym and will be doing various group (hopefully) field trips and self guided trips. We also will continue with Play to Learn, a locally funded program put on by the children's museum.
Man that sounds like a lot........ maybe I should scale back? LOL
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I don't honestly equate submission with an overbearing husband. That has nothing to do with my feelings against it.
No matter how loving, wonderful and fair a husband is, in a marriage like that, a man's decision, judgment..whatever..is more valuable based on his gender. That makes no sense to me and I find it utterly offensive.
It seems like there are a lot of things said in the bible. I always wonder how people choose what to follow and what not to follow.
I understand what she was saying. I believe the whole Bible,..... I think sometimes it's a matter of understanding and sometimes not each of us are at a point where something will be revealed to us. Christians are always growing. Does this make sense?
Welcome Dustybug.:seeya:
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Frankly I am surprised with a young child they didn't encourage you to take him to the doc straight away to be safe. I personally don't think I would wait. It sounds like you may have gotten hit pretty rough.
Did you get her info? DS's car seat will have to be replaced now, and I would do it before you go out again. Her insurance should cover it. Did she not hear the sirens or I wonder if she was just one of those idiots that never pull over?:glare:
lawyers take money, see what the lady's car insurance company says. How badly was your car damaged?
I am not sure how it will be covered, the Chiro and doc office should be able to tell you because you most likely will have to fill out paper work for an auto accident and stuff there, be prepared with her info.
I want to say again, consider going to be checked out tonight or first thing in the AM. Your son at the very least, if he hit your seat he was bumped around a lot. Even though he appears ok, who knows what might have happened.
:grouphug: I am sorry you have to go through this.
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we have been 6 day pull -up free now too so I share your excitement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
ETA: You can read about our 2 yr struggle on our blog. LOL and it has been a struggle until I gave up!
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Prayers for you and your family. :grouphug:
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Dear me..... many people, myself included, have turned the front yard or a portion of it, into a garden (mine is in the side yard and a bigger one out back).
What, no drug dealers this month to go after?:confused:
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What you describe sounds like a Biblical example of submission. Submission isn't a wife doing whatever her husband wants without having a voice. It is basically unselfishness. The husband is to love the wife and in so doing will put her needs first. The wife is to submit to the husband because she considers his needs over hers. And when both work together (husband loving and wife submitting) it is beautiful. It isn't about one person getting his/her own way, but about sacrificing needs/wants for the sake of your partner.
Honestly, I never truly understood submission until after I was married. It sure isn't hard to put my husband's wants and needs first when he puts my wants and needs before his own;)
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LOL I forget to make appts too. But we have done some delay on some things. Unless they slipped something in without my knowing we still haven't done Hep A.
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I'm about to put myself into time-out!)
I BEG for time outs. They all just laugh at me..... 1 minute a year, yeah I can deal with it! bring it on baby! I might just try throwing a fit, since I'm home alone, maybe the neighbors will grant me a time out. LOL I will gladly go to my room, where a test I should be taking isn't lurking, where toys on the floor aren't staring at me..... :lol:
What floors me though in all seriousness, women that say they are completely submissive to their spouse but aren't. They might appear to be on the outside, but at home everyone is afraid of ruffling their feathers. I know a woman like this. She does wear dresses all the time, sometimes denim (:lol:) and I swear, I am scared of her, her husband is scared of her, the preachers are scared of her......
Gonna run now Incas she lurks here.......... :auto:
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I'm not submissive either. I wish that I was, not as a husband-wife issue, but more that I wish I was more humble, that it was easier for me to give in, that I didn't insist so much on my own way. But there it is--I'm a sinner, in every way. And of the two of us, my dh is definitely the holier, the kinder, the more loving. I am blessed!
I wish I was more humble also. My husband is and I wish I could be more that way and less quick to pass judgement... :001_huh:
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What you describe is how Biblical submission should work, imo. It's all about considering the best interest each other rather than making selfish decisions. Considering that husbands are told in Ephesians to love their wives as Christ loved the church, I don't think there's anything biblical about a man bossing his wife around and expecting her to be at his beck and call. Fortunately, I don't see that kind of marriage often.
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This is what I think. If my husband wanted me to be at his beck and call he would have a long time to wait. :tongue_smilie:
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Farmers in India bought into the big seed companies when they use to save seed from year to year. they bought the "new seeds" and well, the rest is history.
Also, some claim that the GMO's support a mono-agriculture which is bad for the soil. I am not sure I would personally ever call a GMO's organic.
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You know, these posts are getting ridiculous.
I don't find it funny to read about any man beating any woman, regardless of whether it's said in jest.
Not cool to joke about spousal abuse.
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Well it's been implied that we are, which I find abhorrent.
So until someone knows my life, don't pass judgment.
35+ pages later this topic has gotten out of hand and certainly far away from the subject of the OP. The Duggars. We can love 'em, hate 'em or have indifference toward them. But I will say one thing, look at all this FREE advertisement they have gotten. How many people never gave them a thought before that will now buy their books or watch their show just to see for themselves? Free marketing.... wow. ;)
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I think I am going to go fix supper for the patriarch of my family and my dd. He is leaving work in less than an hour and said he is hungry. I am going to go happily slave away in the kitchen so that he doesn't beat me when he gets home. ;)
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My patriarch took our daughter to the zoo when I asked him to this afternoon. Glad he didn't beat me. ;)
and here is a five foot chicken.....
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You're comparing extremes. You've stated patriarchy in any form, but are now comparing to extremes. A flawed example. Very.
And you are discriminating against someone's faith by saying its all unhealthy. There's no other way of putting it. Flat out discrimination, making assumptions about someone's marriage and family based on a single issue.
You are right on one thing. This would have gone down differently if they were Wiccan, Ba'hai, Siik or Hindu. Nobody would dare to label all families that participate in those religions as abusive or 'dyshealth'.
Labeling all families who follow a patriarchial model as unhealthy is incredibly rude and thoroughly insulting. Horribly so. And its all opinion, not fact.
Some good points....
How can one hope to counsel people if one is closed minded? I shudder. Yeah I guess I am passing judgment, I just would never go to a counselor that had a preset idea of my life before I even seen him or her. It would cloud every thing they said. SCARY. I mean , think about it....... sorry.... it's scary to me. :001_huh:
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All Homeschool moms wear denim jumpers (couldn't resist that one!)
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We do? Oh my! No one ever informed me that there was a dress code! um, where does one by a "denim jumper" :bigear::lol:
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Homeschooling my 5 almost 6 year old daughter. Would like to connect more with other homeschool parents as we travel down this road. Interested in joining the "Homeschooling an Only" group as well, but was unable to post there.
I joined a while back, and have been away.