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We love Rightstart math, which is somewhat similar to Singapore math because it takes the mastery approach, but it has fewer worksheets. We made the switch after last year and my daughter is really liking it!
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Hello! Here are a few homeschooling groups that may be close to you.Plus some other goody info...
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Just a few to get started with....
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Quote from OP-Aha! Thanks...I was thinking that they needed to say the sounds as they were writing, which would be hard to do when going through the letter script at the same time.
Answer-Well, they kind of are in a way because, for example, if we are doing the letter /b/, I would say the sound, demonstrate the formation, and have them say the sound until they say it correctly, then have them write the letter, while I watch to see that they are doing it correctly. I give explicit handwriting directions just like the manual says, like where to start on the clock, and also implement talk from the Cursive First program about where in the house the letter starts and finishes. (Like the letter "p" starts at midpoint, goes down in the basement, comes back up the same staircase, and has a seat on the baseline after going around, some of that is my own lingo in there trying to make it fun:) So they say just that sound, then write it correctly. Sometimes my son will say it as he is writing it, and that ok too, that comes with already knowing how to form the letter when more focus in their mind is on the sound itself since the sound is mastered already. My son knew all the letters and sounds before he really could sing the alphabet right(w/o skipping letters) but i was ok with that because its more useful to know what sound they make than what they stand for, if that makes sense.
My little guy gets that part down pat, but when we got to the phonogram /ie/ and I have him say that this combo says /e/ and /i/ (the long sounds), he looked at me and said no way, they say /i/ and /e/! Thats when I knew he didnt understand that two or more letters joined together make a new sound. I think he still struggles with this somewhat but I am seeing progress. His next learning curve has been what sounnd to use and when. For example "s" says /s/ and /z/. He doesnt know when to use what.
Quote from OP-So, do you think it is okay to move on with learning more sounds/ phonograms even if he doesn't quite have that particular letter formation mastered?
Answer-I would practice some each day until a letter looks pretty darn close to how it should, but frequent review will help this. I would move on after he says the sound and writes it pretty good and then maybe talk about words that start with this letter.
Im still learning too, but its so neat to see the Spalding method work! Somehow Ive messed up my post here while quoting, so hopefully Ive kind of fixed that!
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How does a child learn the phonogram sound when they are so focused on the letter formation script?
I guess the best way to stress the sound is to say it, have them say it and have them say it again to themselves before writing it. The idea behind is for them to recognize the phonograms anywhere they encounter them. We started this last year and even though my son could say, spell, and write /er/, he couldn’t see it in words. This year he is starting to get it a lot better so I’m still plugging away with phonogram drill.
2. Would I be better off to work hard on handwriting before getting very formal with learning the phonograms?
He will get plenty of handwriting practice learning the phonograms, so I would start with each letter and learn all those sounds before moving on to digraphs(2 letter sounds). I would go as slowly as needed to make sure each letter is formed correctly and the sounds are solid in his head. Make it fun, play bingo, use lots of variety ways to get it down.
3. How many times do you practice each letter before moving on?
I would see how a letter a day goes, or maybe more if this is first grade. Look for mastery before moving on but try not to push him too much. It’s a hard balance to find!
4. When is it appropriate to move on to writing on paper (we use the chalkboard, salt tray, etc).
I would start using paper right away along with the other methods you are using.
5. How much review for each letter do you do in addition to adding new letters.
I did lots of review last year before moving on and it kept us from getting through all I had planned. Some phonograms he just wasn’t ready for, so I would review often.
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At two a week, my kids would always finish their books early that year. A good combo for my youngest, who is in his second year of Sparks, is to shoot for one and if he gets another, thats great. My daughter could always do two a week easily, unless we plum forgot to practice a few times.
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I used to start right, go across, then around, but last year I discovered a new way to make my fives look less like S's, the other way you described where you make a straight line down, then around, and then pick up your pencil and make the top from left to right. Im not sure where I encountered this, but it was either in Rightstart, HWT, WRTR or Cursive First. :) Helpful, right?
Anyways, I have gotten in the habit of the new way and I really like it! My son does it too, I think...
I havnt bothered to insist on it with any of them, I just plant the seed that its easier and neater looking this way.
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We are loving Rightstart D for 3rd grade which is proving to be both challenging and fun. I throw in some workbook stuff occasionally, when I dont have time for all the teacher intensive stuff. Its scripted and you can use lots of manipulatives if you want, or none if you dont want too. We are learning a ton right now about perimeter, skip counting, how many days each month has, etc.
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Bump for you....
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:grouphug::grouphug: Email and prayer sent....
It might help to link a news story also to this thread.
This is terrible, terrible.....
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Neenee7,
Are you thinking about doing MCT as well? I love how Shurley is so simple to do. MCT definitelt interests me. Shurley already does an excellent job of sentence parsing so I'm questioning the rationale for have two programs tha accomplish the same goal. I know MCT is aesthetically more pleasing to look at, but... I wonder if you could just do the other components of MCT and just skip Grammar Island. Any thoughts on any of this?
Sorry for the delayed response. I forgot to subscribe to the thread before.
I have MCT on my shelf and pulled it out here and there last year. My problem was that if I used Shurley, I had no time left to use MCT. It would have been overkill since I was using this for a second grader who already understood the Shurley way, so I felt somewhat confused by MCT's labels. I didn't spend anytime correcting or analyzing the differences for her. The only part I think we might return to is the Music of the Hemispheres book. She loved some of the poems in there and memorized a few so we might supplement our usual Shurley with some colorful MCT.
I like Shurley because it's scripted and I feel like we cover the material well. And it just plain gets done, no teacher prep, so I like that too. My kids want to use it for writing too, but I've been skeptical about using it for that because the WTM book says to skip that part because it's weak in writing.
We only did half our Shurley books last because we were trying other grammar progrmas out too. At one point we were doing Phonics Road, The Writing Road to Reading, Shurley, and MCT, not all in one day, but it got to the point that the kids didnt know what I was going to pull of that shelf. This year I decided just to use Shurley for grammar, the Writing Road to Reading phonograms and spelling lists, Saxon Phonics with all it's crazy macrons and breves, and so far I havnt had a spare moment to pic up MCT again yet, but I hope too!
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How awesome!
I'd say that going down 6 pants sizes is a really big deal! Or maybe it's a small deal, a really small deal:)
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Today was a much better day and I'm glad it's a better one for most here too!
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We are in the same boat here. Many tears, much hysteria, attitudes; I'm plain sick of it! But I can only hope that tmrw will be better. Im just trying to get LA and math done for Pete's sake! It's my younger two that have a hard time and it takes away from my attention for my 7th grader.
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I think it looks great! His vocab is superb! I hope my 8yr old can write like your son come next yr.
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I would get a set of phonogram cards and a copy of the Writing Road to Reading. I think going through the phonograms and rules would be a tremendous help to her.
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I like Saxon Phonics because it's scripted, but I also bring out my copy of The Writing Road to Reading to teach phonograms daily for both my 1st grader and my 3rd grader. It's incremental, thorough, and intensive phonics that I think is essential to learning how to read. It really explains the "why" of reading and less sight word stuff.
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How about Real Science 4 Kids, Apologia, or Science Fusion?
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I have one from Oreck and I'm so glad I invested a bit extra. The handheld is fantastic for stairs and baseboards! It has a lot of suction! The Upright is very basic and light weight but really picks up the dirt.
We also like our Oreck.
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Another vote for Cooper here.
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We love Saxon Phonics and the Writing Road to Reading spelling list.
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Very awesome! I like how organized you are.
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My son is where your daughter is in TT right now after finishing Saxon 7/6. I thought TT prealg would be too easy, but surprisingly, its not.
I would just keep plugging away at TT-Pre alg and then go from there.
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This won't help you get quick cash, but for the long term, could you trim some bills for services that your family uses like cut the cable bill, get rid of the home phone and just go to cell phones only or vice versa, apply for energy assistance in November, etc?
Just trying to think of some ways we have recently cut down expenses to ward off getting too far behind.
Recommendations for adding writing for 1st grader
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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We made a switch from the The Phonics Road(which proved to be too fast paced last year) to Saxon Phonics 1 this year for my six and a half year old first grader. Besides this program, which takes at least 30-60 minutes to complete, should we add in some extra writing?
He has a new journal which he likes to draw and write in, and I have him do some simple copy work from time to time for history or science, but not everyday.
Any recommendations for actually writing and maybe some added grammar? I think I have handwriting covered with WRTR and Cursive First instructions while we are doing Saxon.