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  1. Didn't read the other replies yet...

     

    This is coming from a secular, feminist viewpoint: Here in the US, women can choose what sort of relationship, faith, and lifestyle they want to have. They can walk away if they feel too burdened. That said, if a woman chooses to be submissive to her husband, that choice should be respected. If she backs up her choices with scripture, that is equally valid.

     

    I most certainly am not going to judge another woman's choices unless she is putting herself or her children in danger. I mean this in general terms. Of course there are some actions I may judge as "irresponsible"... but in general, I stay out of other people's relationship choices. The fact that we HAVE choices in this country is very, very important to me.

     

     

    I would agree with you 100% if the submissive attitude stayed within the marriage, but it doesn't. It spills over into the workplace, marketplace, and politics all the time, and I'm getting tired if it. I get tired of my dh and I going to purchase a new car for ME and the salesmen at the dealership not even looking at me because obviously it's my dh who will make the decision. (ha, they were sure wrong.) OR right now, having huge headachs with our septic tank and even though my dh is working 10-12 hours a day getting ready to deploy to Iraq, the septic tank guy keeps wanting to talk to my dh and not me, because heaven forbid I have the authority to make decisions.

     

    What was really funny, before I quit work to be a sahm, was watching some guys having to deal with a female boss. Some guys just really can't handle a woman being in charge, and I do think it stems from the "men are in charge" attitudes they see at home.

  2. Imagine being a shoe off at the door type of person (me) being married to a shoes on in the house type of person (dh). Let's just say after 14 years of marriage, dh has learned to use the steam cleaner quite well. :lol:

     

    I can understand if people don't care if people wear shoes in their own houses or not, but I think to get so upset to be asked to remove their shoes at someone elses house seems like a lot of wasted emotion to me. (Just coming from someone who really doesn't care one way or the other.)

  3. Well, my grandmother raised her family to believe that one of the greatest sins ever committed was to wear shoes in her house, and each of her daughters (aka- my mom) raised their kids that way. My grandmother always said it was easier for her family to take their shoes off than for her to drag out the vacuum cleaner 5 times a day. (And she would've too.)

     

    Thankfully I'm not that fastidious of a housekeeper, but the habit is so ingrained into me that I just can't wear shoes in my house. I never make it a requirement for other people but when they see me take my shoes off they usually do the same.

     

    When I go to other homes though, I usually ask what they prefer when I come in. The times I've taken my shoes off out of habit and no one else does I end up feeling really odd and uncomfortable.

     

    I like the idea of having little footies for people if they don't want or can't take their shoes off. Also, maybe get a big bag of heavy socks from the dollar store to offer to people if their feet get cold or something.

  4. Beer. It can't be Bud or Coors. Microbrews are the best.

     

    Nothing on my Thanksgiving or Christmas table can be pre prepared. It has to be all made from scratch, esp. the dressing. No stovetop for me!

     

    Yarn. If I'm going to spend my time making something, then I want it to last. (unlike the first pair of socks I made with a 80% acrylic and 20% wool blend that the person at the yarn store said would make good socks with. Yea, holes within 10 minutes of wearing them.)

     

    Walmart. Can't shop there. No way, no how.

     

    Forgot- pens. I hate blue or black. Uck. I need some color to my life, but I'll settle for blue if it's not the regular shade of blue. I do hate gel pens though.

  5. Um, yea, all the time. :glare: I think for me, a lot of it is when I started homeschooling everything was fresh and exciting. Then I get a couple of years under my belt, some curric works and others don't, and I sort of feel blah. I want something to catch my attention and make me feel EXCITED again! I might reread TWTM when it comes out just to catch that newness again. (Because, you know, the two older versions I have sitting on my self are SO yesterday)

  6. Let's remember why Susan's mom started homeschooling in the first place. It wasn't because her kids were super geniuses with excellent study habits, and Jessie could tell at age 2 they would be destined for greatness. Jessie just taught her kids how to read, and then once they started going to school they were getting made fun of by the other kids and the teachers didn't know what to do with them, and it was starting to have serious negative consequences for the kids. (If I'm remembering correctly without having to get up and reread the intro to TWTM.) Susan is very smart, but how different would her education have been if she were only pushed to be equal to her classmates? And this may be unfair because there are many bright students to come out of the ps system, but each school is different just as each homeschool is different.

     

    So, although I can't change my answer from "both" I am going to to say that I think that the right enviroment and the right study habits can take any student and make the them the best student they can be.

  7. Although I understand that the whole adoption issue is foremost in your thoughts, as far as the facebook account goes, I think you should be allowed to have private relationships with anyone without a family member having to read everything. I'm thinking of it as a privacy issue. I literally just signed up for facebook earlier this week so I completely don't understand the different things you can or cannot do on facebook, but if you don't want your brother reading your messages to your bio mother, you shouldn't have to. I understand that facebook isn't exactly a private medium, but you get the idea.

     

    In other words, even if you told your db and dm that you were talking to your bio mother again, that doesn't mean he can/should be able to read your private coorespondance with her. Think of it as two seperate issues. I do like the idea of having two different accounts with one for family. That way when and if you decide to tell your family about it, it wont be because of fear of getting found out but because it's what you feel is right at the time.

     

    I don't have any practical advice about the deeper issues though. Good luck! :grouphug:

  8. I think both. My dd had problems in school, and was really starting to feel stupid. She's doing much better after we pulled her out during 3rd grade. However, she wasn't an academic genius then and isn't an academic genius now. (She's in 7th-8th grade). I'm not saying this to be harsh, her gifts just aren't in acadamia. However, she's still rather bright and with hard work and good study habits I know she'll be able to go much further than she ever would have if she stayed in regular PS. We're still working on those study habits though!

     

    (She wants to be a vet and is extremely good with animals and has a big heart, but I think she'd make a better stunt woman. And I'm not kidding.)

  9. No question, Usborne Internet Linked En. The pictures are great for grammer age. We'd read the chapter/section in SOTW, open the corresponding pages in UILE, and the kids would get all excited locating and talking about a picture that tied in with what we learned in SOTW. Also, you can download some of the drawn pictures off their website if you wanted to for various reasons, in case your interested.

  10. didn't even go the high school games. ;)

     

     

    I was in marching band in highschool, so I had to attend every home game whether I wanted to or not, so maybe that's why I understand most of the basic rules of the game. Also, maybe that's why I like attending games now, because I'm not having to wear an ugly, heavy polyester outfit and can sit in the stands like any other self respecting fan.

  11. I have a love/hate relationship with Science also. I just purchased a couple of TOPS books to see if it would put the fun back into science. I might purchase SWB's CD as Colleen in NS suggested to try to put a classical spin on it. The more and more I tried to use just a textbook (even with their experiements with it) the more I just find something lacking about it, at least what my ideal homeschool science projects CAN be like.

  12. Um, Jenny, I hate to break it to you, but yea, I think you might be the only one in America. Sorry. :lol: Just kidding.

     

    Actually, I only like football when I'm following my teams. (Like my hometeam, my dh college football team, etc). The rest of the time I don't care, except for the Superbowl. Here's why. I learned a long time ago that it was more fun as a young adult to go to the Superbowl parties than always being the one scheduled to work because I didn't care about or didn't want to watch the Superbowl. Heck, I'd rather be a part of the fun. Now, we just moved and we have no friends, (sniff, sniff), so it'll just be my family, but I'm going to make plenty of unhealty junk food, grab some beer, and sit on my rear end keeping my dh company while I knit some socks. If the game actually becomes interesting (and I do know enough about football to tell and interesting game from a boring game), then I may not get a lot of knitting done, but either way I'll enjoy myself. And, I'll get to watch all the really tastless commercials so I'll know what the heck everyone is talking about on Mon. I mean, I've got to stay culturally educated, right??? ;)

  13. Girl, you're preaching to the choir here! I actually don't mind once or twice a week, but every single day, three times a day? It doesn't help that I refuse to buy things like cold cereal either. I'm becoming more and more a fan of freezing things for the nights I just don't feel up to it.

  14. So who gets the final say? The one who pouts the longest, or yells the loudest? :confused: That doesn't seem like a good situation.

     

    My DH has the final say, but he also has the wisdom to follow my decision on matters where I might have more knowlege in the particular area.

     

    I think that's a very false impression of nonsubmissive households. My husband and I talk and talk things over until we come to an agreement. The bigger the issue, the more important it is we agree together. I'm not saying that we don't have small squables like any couple, but my dh and I wont make a decision if one of us disagrees with it. Our ultimate goal is to have a happy, loving marriage and family. With that as our common goal, how could we not work together to make sure the decisions we make work for the both of us? After 14 years of marriage, we've never not been able to agree important issues.

  15. One traditional' date=' yet not universal, Christian belief about this, is that the pagan gods were inspired by actual demons. So there were other "gods", but they were fallen angels originally created by the Triune God (Yahweh). They had some local power, but were ultimately powerless in the face of the true God. So in one sense there were other "gods", and one sense in which there were not. [/quote']

     

     

    Okay, thanks for explaining that. That threw me for a loop there. :D

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    Katrina, I was raised Mormon too, but I've never heard that argument from a Mormon before. (That those Old Testament verses showed God acknowledged other gods.) I'm not arguing that you didn't hear it growing up, just saying that I don't think it is a universal interpretation within Mormonism. (I'm not arguing the belief in other gods, just the use of those scriptures to prove it.)

     

    Hmm. I have a feeling that was clear as mud.

     

    How funny, cause I'm pretty sure that's what I remember. I know Mormons also used those verses to talk about idolatry as well. But, I'm not trying to prove or disprove Mormonism, but just wanting to clarify what the other posters meant. This is actually a rather interesting discussion. :001_smile:

  17. I know that's a popular interpretation, but the commanment isn't "Don't worship false gods."

     

    I'm interested in what Lovedtodeath has to say. She seems to be much more knowledgable in biblical matters than me.

     

    Okay, then explain to me. (I hope I'm not hijacking this thread here.) I was raised Mormon, who do believe in the existance of other gods, but just in other galaxies far, far away. Mormons always used the above passages to show that God acknowledged other real Gods, but for our purposes, we were to only worship Him because he was OUR one and true God. Other Christians argued this point with me over and over about how there was just ONE God and He was the supreme creator of EVERYTHING and that the existance of more than one God was purely unbiblical. Now your saying, as a Christian, that there are more than our Heavenly Father?

     

    I'm just really confused! :confused1:

    1. You shall have no other gods before me.

    2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

    Pretty clear to me that Yahweh knows there are other gods and doesn't want his followers to recognize them.

     

    I always thought that these particular commandments were in response (for lack of a better word) to the Egyptian and Babylonian belief systems, who did worship multiple gods and made statues and painting of them. God was telling the Isrealites not to worship them, not because they were real gods and godesses, but because they were false gods (non-exsistant gods).

  18. if anyone wants to understand the other side of the argument, here's a good book about it.

     

    Finally Feminist: A Pragmatic Christian Understanding of Gender by John G Stackhouse Jr. (sorry, I hve no clue how to post a link here, but you should be able to find it on Amazon easily enough).

     

    I'm not looking to change minds, but there are two valid sides to this discussion, and it's always good to understand the other side.

  19. I don't know...I was facinated with them at first with how they managed their household, but now they kinda creep me out. Maybe it's a territorial judgmental thing...because I think Michelle (is Michelle the name of the Dugger Mom?) is too sweet and idealistic and submissive (ick). (Okay, I am NOT debating, just stating I'm not a submissive wife so you understand where my point of view is.)

     

    However, with Kate, on Jon and Kate plus 8, sometimes I just want to whop her upside the head. She can be SO critical of her husband, and a huge neat freak. She needs to chill sometimes.

     

    But then on the other hand...with Little People, Big World, I think the Mom (Amy) in that show really needs to clean her house up a little.

     

    You know...I think I'm actually showing more of my undesirable judgmental trait here that I really didn't realize I had. :001_huh: As if I'm perfect, or my house perfectly clean, or never grouchy, or always speak to my dh in a kind voice (especially at 4:30 am when he gets up for work.)

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