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This recipe is very close to the one I use for black beans and rice. It is really good as is, and wonderful with Pioneer Woman's pico de gallo on top!
http://www.recipezaar.com/Classic-Black-Beans-and-Rice-46221
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Here in western NC, I had a friend growing up who had that last name. He pronounced it duh MUN brun. Cute guy, too!
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Could it be that the reason they say to do chem with geometry is because you need to have finished algebra 1 to do the math in chemistry? That's the only thing I can think of. Chemistry is very math heavy (more than memorization, at least for my ds in Apologia Chemistry).
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May 1st will probably be quite warm in NC -- Durham is in central NC so no cool mountain air or ocean breezes :-) Your dh and boys would be fine in khakis and a jacket. You'll probably be fine in a spring dress with maybe a need for a wrap inside with the air conditioning or for the evening air.
have fun!
ETA oops -- sorry! didn't realize you're actually *from* NC! you know what it's like temperature wise! so just read the comments re: your boys -- we went to a nice afternoon wedding in Asheboro recently and the adult men were in navy sportcoat and ties, the teen boys were in dress shirts & pants -- some with ties & coats, some without.
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Regarding the Loom -- it is an essential piece of the puzzle. It contains lengthy articles explaining everything from the philosophy behind TOG to recipes for making salt dough maps. It has all the "how to" articles for implementing the program.
There are essentially 2 parts to the Loom -- the public portion which is available to everyone, located on the website, and the non-public portion, which comes with your TOG year plan when you purchase it.
The public portion is more general in information and has things you might want to know about before you buy TOG: things like credits for high school, etc.
The non-public portion has the information that pertains specifically to that particular year plan, so it is copyright protected.
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As far as time *I* spend on TOG, here's a quick rundown.
-- in the summer I spend about 2 weeks reading over the Loom documents, reading Unit introductions, planning how to cut down the R literature assignments (this is covered in the Loom documents) and just wrapping my mind around how the year should shape up.
-- I also do a completely unnecessary thing, but it's something my ds and dd love and beg me to do -- Before each unit, I copy/paste all the student questions into a Word document and reformat them so they have blank spaces under each question. Then I print out those pages and put them in a 3-ring binder. This takes me several hours (usually while I'm watching tv) of time (I do both D and R pages -- next year both my students will be in R-- yea!). I used to take them to Staples to have them spiral bound, but after a year of that I found the time and expense not worth it.
-- Before each unit, I spend a day printing the maps & timeline figures for the upcoming unit. I place these in the 3-ring binder with the student question pages.
-- Each week, I spend about 2 hours going over the teacher notes and prepping for the lit discussion.
-- For discussion time with my ds, I spend 1.5 hrs in lit co-op class on Mondays, and 3 hrs. in co-op class for history/church history/govt/philosophy on Fridays
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Just wanted to point out (in case you didn't know):
-- TOG govt. is a separate subject in the rhetoric years, not mixed in. If you complete all the assigned readings, you earn 1/2 govt. credit each year.
-- year 3 and year 4 can each be classified as 1/2 credit History of Western Civ and 1/2 credit US History, so after completing both years you'd have 1 credit each of Western Civ and US History. The Loom documents on the website are very helpful for figuring out credits. Look under "Dialectic/Rhetoric Helps".
As for how you should spend your 7th and 8th grade years, I'm not sure!!
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Bookshelf Central is a great place to get a listing of books, especially to see a picture of the cover. You can also get a list on the TOG web site: click on "Store" and then "Resource List". You have to create an account, and then you'll get access to the booklists.
For Year 1 & 2 Rhetoric, where your students will be using Norton's Anthology for many assignments, try using the Scope & Sequence to see which titles are used. Click on "Year 1" or "Year 2" and then click on Scope & Sequence to see that pdf file.
As far as time goes, we use TOG for history, literature, geography, government, church history, fine arts, and philosophy. So it takes up the vast bulk of time for my R level son. He adds in chemistry & geometry, plus speech & debate, for a very full load. He begins around 8:30, works until 3 or 3:30, and reads some before bed and on weekends. (this also includes time out for going to co-op 2 days a week and speech & debate one afternoon).
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That's an excellent wrap-up, Karen. Thanks for taking the time to give so much helpful information. I'm going to print this up to have available for folks new to our co-op with R students!
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Well, since no one else has replied I'll answer what I can.
TOG will definitely hold your hand in literature. this is our 2nd year covering high school lit, and I've taught the lit co-op class both years, and it has been great for me as a teacher. The discussion questions are there in the teachers notes, along with the answers broken down by what I should expect the students to be able to give, and more in depth answers they might not be able to come up with on their own. At the beginning of the teacher notes in the lit section there is a list of what I should read as the teacher in order to have the background info for the discussion. I've never needed to read all the material my student has to read. It's very hard for most rhetoric students in the beginning, but I'm always amazed at the growth they show in class discussion as the year progresses.
We didn't do the lit analysis papers last year, as we had all young, new rhetoric students. Our first one comes up in a couple of weeks. So I don't have first hand experience in that area. I can tell you, that there is an explanation of the assignment in the teacher notes, as well as suggested topics. You would get more in depth help in teaching this if you also have the Writing Aids book. That book contains specific help on what literary analysis papers look like, prewriting forms for your students to use, and grading rubrics for you to help in grading the papers.
One more very valuable thing -- the author of the rhetoric lit portion of TOG is always available on the TOG forums. She always takes great pains to answer any rhetoric lit questions that come up -- you can search back through old questions & answers or ask you own.
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Other -- Tapestry of Grace
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:iagree: Please add my "ditto" to all the others. I've been hanging around WTM boards since 2000 and am especially thankful to you ladies here on the high school board. Your wealth of wisdom is so appreciated!
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You'll love TOG Year 2. The format is the same as year 1, so since you're comfortable with that you should be fine. The content is really fun for kids, especially your dd's age. You'll cover vikings, middle ages, knights, castles, leonardo da vinci, joan of arc, explorers, colonial america, pilgrims, and on an on. Lots of fun and you'll both learn so much!
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I have to shampoo every 3 days or so, probably because I use product on my hair and it really builds up. I do the conditioner wash/rinse a la curly girl on the days I don't use 'poo. I'm not really sold on any particular shampoo or conditioner, but the products I like for styling are garnier fructis spray curl gel combined with soft curl cream. (my hair is cut somewhat short and I use a diffuser to encourage the curl.)
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Wow, have you been able to find two facilities that offer you space for free? Virtually no place around here does that any more. Kudos to them!
Julie
yes, I know it's hard to believe and we're grateful!
However, this morning someone in our co-op (the big one, with 75 kids or more) apparently pulled the fire alarm! We're hopeful this doesn't damage our relationship with the church. The fire department came out, and the pulled alarm was damaged, so it could be costly to the church. I wonder though, how many of those kids have ever been "taught" not to pull an alarm -- I don't think I've ever specifically said it to my kids, come to think of it!
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We have 2 co-ops that our high school kids are a part of.
We are members of a TOG co-op that has 5 rhetoric kids in History, Church History, government, and philosophy, and 8 kids in rhetoric literature. Our co-op is free, and is run by the moms (not all rhetoric kids' moms teach rhetoric subjects though -- some of them teach the LG, UG, or dialectic classes.)
We meet every week: history/church history/government/philosophy meets 3 hours on Fridays, and lit meets 1.5 hours on the following Monday. Meeting on the following Monday gives the kids the weekend to finish up on their lit reading.
TOG is ideal for co-ops, in fact it was written with co-ops in mind for rhetoric kids. The discussion scripts keep us on track and tell us moms what to say, what to ask, etc.
Our other co-op meets on Mondays, and they do labs for the Apologia classes, SAT prep classes, an AP psychology class, yearbook/photography, bible studies, and a "teen club" social hour at the end of the day.
There is no fee for either co-op, but all parents are required to teach and/or assist for 2-3 hours each Monday. It's not a drop-off situation, and we all pitch in to keep it running.
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We have 3 high school students in our TOG co-op who only do the lit portion, and I think it works out great. The only tough part is on me, since I have to provide them with copies of the lit pages and reading schedule (they paid the co-op license fee so they could use the program without having to buy the whole thing). But for them, I think it works fine, and it's certainly a good lit program!
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I'm having my 10th grade ds do the TOG government for yrs. 2-4.
I'm thinking I'll have him do AP economics later on, and maybe AP government. Since he won't have any AP credits through TOG, this is where I'm planning to fit them in.
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update -- took her to the vet today, and yes, she has a UTI. Not only that, but kidney stones too :crying: She's scheduled for surgery tomorrow morning. I told my kids their Christmas present is sitting on the couch!
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We have 2 terriers, sisters, who are about 3 years old, house dogs, and very smart girls. About a week ago, one of them has started peeing in the house in the evenings, usually around 8pm. Sometimes it's on the stairs, but last night she hopped right up on my bed, with me sitting there, squatted and peed right in front of me! Why would she do that?? She had just been taken out about 30 minutes prior to that. We take them out 5 or even 6 times a day. Any ideas? This is getting old!!!
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My dear ds fell on Saturday and broke his writing wrist. He gets his cast this morning, so I don't know how far down his hand it will go, but I'm assuming it will keep him from using his right hand to write. :001_huh:
He's 10th grade, but I had him signed up for the PSAT this Saturday for much needed practice (the boy just doesn't do well on timed tests...) Now what? should I have him go anyway just for the experience, knowing his score will be awful? what would ya'll do???
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This is our 6th year with TOG, and my 15 yo ds' 2nd year with Rhetoric. We're on Y2. Here's what he does:
History (all)
Government
Church history
philosophy
with a co-op discussion on all of these for 3 hours on Fridays
Literature (pared down to the first suggested level) with a co-op discussion of 1 1/2 hours on the following Monday.
He does maps and timeline, but no evaluations. We try to get in all the writing assignments, but don't always get it done.
He's pretty busy, but this year is better than last -- he's getting used to it. :tongue_smilie:
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Mine were never interested until about middle school, when they wanted to go to school with their friends from church. I've always just told my dc that God told me & their dad that we are to homeschool them, and we will continue until He tells us to stop ;). Also, I've always felt strongly that middle school years are the WORST times to be in public schools, so I'll do anything I have to do to homeschool them through those years.
By the time my ds reached high school age, he was no longer interested in public schools as he had heard too many stories from his friends, and he is happy to be homeschooled. I expect (hope?) that will be the case for my dd (now 13).
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DS 15 just finished Beowulf and will begin Dante's Inferno tomorrow. He's reading A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court for fun.
TOG users: Seal the deal for me!
in K-8 Curriculum Board
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Well, I don't know if I'll seal the deal, but I'll try to answer some of your questions.
We've done TOG 6 years now. Our first 4 year of hsing, we did WTM as written (this was pre-SOTW days). For 5th and up I wanted ds to have something more in-depth and structured, so we went with TOG. I am totally sold on TOG.
This is our 2nd year in the Renaissance with TOG (3rd if you count WTM rotation) and we are in no way tired of it. With TOG, different levels emphasize different aspects of the time period, or go in more depth.
For example, this week (the Elizabethan era) the grammar kids were learning about Queen Elizabeth and the golden age of England, the dialectic kids were learning about the houses of Tudor & Stuart and the connections between Elizabeth and Mary Queen of Scots, and the rhetoric kids were discussing the strengths and weaknesses of Elizabeth's character and about Mary Queen of Scots' effects on the Scottish Reformation. So the things we learned in earlier rotations came back to help us in learning the new material. And yes, believe it or not, they remembered things from the earlier rotations! ;)
Regarding your 6th grader's lit, TOG would definitely cover literature, and writing if you do those assignments. You would, however, need to add in your own choice of grammar program.
As far as printing goes, I believe it costs around $25 per unit ($100 per year plan) to print the program. Here's the link to the 2010 prices, and the print prices are actual printing costs at $.05 per page.
http://www.tapestryofgrace.com/2010prices/
However, I own DE and I certainly don't print out the whole thing! I print only the Student Activity Pages for each week (and then only for the levels my kids are in). In addition to that, I print the maps and timeline figures, and that's it.
I hope this has helped you some! Let me know if I can clarify anything. I don't always explain things in the best way :tongue_smilie: