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On 10/26/2023 at 8:20 PM, SKL said:
Yeah, one of my kids is kind of borderline, never tested quite badly enough to be guaranteed services / IEP, but has a lot of challenges. When it comes to math, she needs to practice continually and work twice as hard to pass. If she had to re-take a math test much after the related class, she most likely would have gotten a worse score the second time. It created a lot of stress for sure. As did Algebra II, which she might have failed without tutoring that I procured outside of school.
There are so many other things going on at this age that are important too. Even if a kid could pass by studying 16 hours a day, why should they have to? For kids who struggle in school, it seems better that they start a part-time job or other activity that aligns more with their realistic future. And, yes, bring back Consumer Math, because at least that's likely to be used.
Your daughter sounds very similar to myself. If I were in school today. I probably wouldn’t qualify for IEP. Because my IQ was average and was mainstreamed into regular classes by my senior year in high school. I have dyscalculia and dysgraphia. DCD my mom took me to Easter Seals for physical therapy when I was in elementary school. She needs help just like I did and maybe those of us who are adults. Can help your daughter and other kids too. I took Consumer Math my sophomore year. It was all LD students. I say let’s bring it back.
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19 hours ago, teachermom2834 said:
Our state does require four years of math including one year beyond algebra 2. That said, I have never met someone who did not graduate because they couldn’t do the math or that was denied a diploma who attended school regularly so ???
And tons of kids get to community college and remediate these classes. So what are we doing here anyway?
Just sayin. I don’t have the answers. I have never had anyone in public school so I’m not that familiar. I just have the questions.
Exactly right and I was one of them. I would have been student today that would not be able to fill these graduation requirements is me. I graduated in 1991 all of my math classes were for LD students. There are tons of kids today like myself who will not receive high school diploma. It has made such difference in my life. I have worked in childcare that would not be an option. Where I live in Illinois without high school diploma. Community college classes in Elementary Education also would not have advanced my job. Without high school diploma even though my son. Is neurotypical and could fill those requirements. There are millions of kids like myself who can’t. Why do they sentence kids to A lifetime of underemployment if it is not necessary. I hope anyone reading my comments doesn’t feel. I stepped on any toes. Only want to help those kids now that need it. I was in public school with IEP in place when I graduated in 1991. I apologize for all of my grammar and spelling mistakes. My skills are not great.
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2 hours ago, kbutton said:
Yes, though it might not fix things for kids with disabilities, including for 2e kids. They often need different instruction and pacing even when they competence of instruction is fixed. They just do.
The nature of my disabilities is not Autism. I am Dyscalculia and dysgraphia. Also DCD all of my math classes in high school. All LD and my social studies were also LD. I had IEP in place so today because. Of the increasingly difficult graduation requirements. I would not have high school diploma, I sometimes wonder that those of us who are adults now. With learning challenges started speaking up. About how having high school diploma. Made such difference in our lives. They might change things for the better. I always wanted to work with kids. Because I had high school diploma. I was able to do that, Take few college classes too. Kids that have autism have potential too. Limiting opportunities for them when they are so young. Is cruel and unnecessary it makes angry, I apologize for my poor spelling and punctuation. I have trouble with that too.
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13 hours ago, Storygirl said:
Not to mention that our vocational school is competitive to get into. People often get turned away from programs. DS was not a good candidate for the skilled trades due to the nature of his disabilities, and he had no aptitude or interest in most of the other areas. He did apply to one career center program but was rejected.
I am so sorry. I have dyscalculia and dysgraphia. Also DCD and graduated from high school in 1991 with IEP in place. The Community College near was not hard to get into. Childcare is what I love and high turnover rate. Usually not hard to get into. Kids like your son need more opportunities to get into vocational training. That they are interested in. With support they need so we can be successful. It makes me so angry that they still offer so little help.
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14 hours ago, Terabith said:
I agree. I am all for high standards, but I don't think it makes sense to make graduation dependent on Geometry and Algebra 2.
I happen to agree with you. Since I graduated from public high school in 1991. I am LD and had no advanced math classes. Today I would not be able to get high school diploma. Which is required to work in childcare as an assistant. I also took some college classes as well. It makes me think of how many kids like myself won’t get A diploma.
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My son Joshua has ADD my husband and I went through several years. With no job and lack of motivation. Is there any interests that he does have?? Some kind of hobby that might help him feel better about himself.
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On 10/13/2023 at 3:14 PM, Lecka said:
I’m glad things are going better today!
Me too.
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On 10/12/2023 at 6:12 PM, Not_a_Number said:
Goodness, @Ting Tang. I'm sorry you're being put on the defensive because you prioritize the kids' social lives.
For what it's worth, we're a very academic family, and we spend TONS of time outside the house socializing with other kids, because that's what makes my kids happy and allows them to have warm, consistent friendships. I only have 2 kids. They start climbing up the walls and their relationship suffers if they only interact with each other. Different families are different.
It sounds you're having a tough time balancing everything. That's OK. You're not doing it wrong. It's YOUR family and you need to do what's right for THEM.
I must admit there is a lot of very harsh judgement. When it comes to outside activities. My son Joshua did few outside activities. He is my only child and went to public school. Just because I chose to do that doesn’t mean everyone. Should sign their kids up for soccer. That worked for my family. It might not work for yours. You also shouldn’t judge someone else. Who has kids in outside activities if it works for their family.
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On 10/12/2023 at 10:25 AM, Ting Tang said:
I definitely agree we/(myself) are at fault. I think our family dynamic of living nextdoor to my in-laws affects things---things I could never have foreseen ten years ago. My two sister-in-laws on that side are public school teachers, and believe me, they (and my husband) feel it is very important for the kids to be around other kids. So much centered around a school that allows for ease of making those friendships, such as being on a team or in the band, so sometimes it is appealing. I get that doesn't happen for everyone. I also victimize myself by reading comments online how homeschooled kids are abused, isolated, socially-backwards. I know that isn't true, but I feel a need to cover my bases. I am sometimes told about more things my kids could do or receiving suggestions, and it would be nearly impossible. We've been having more heart-to-heart talks after Monday this week. Everyone loves the flexibility of homeschooling, except when it comes to doing school at more flexible times that are not traditional school hours---so we have to make choices. I think I have been extra stressed because every appointment requires travel, and today, I couldn't even get the orthodontist to do his next appointment at a decent hour. They have few afterschool hours, which I cannot get, and we have to go every two weeks---things like that just don't help. I am totally whining, and you all have been wonderful. I have to get back to school. 🙂
First you shouldn’t be so hard on yourself. No I didn’t homeschool my son. He is all grown up. Now and has our beautiful 2 year old granddaughter. What I can relate to is trying to juggle lots of stuff at A time. My husband was diagnosed last December with dementia. I have some mental health issues and can’t drive right now.. So I think that you and your husband. Along with your kids need family meeting. Go over what you want to accomplish with your homeschool. Any chores you want them to do. My husband was in the Navy. So we called family meetings whenever we had issues we needed to address. This continued until our son Joshua left home. It keeps lines of communication open.
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On 4/15/2018 at 8:37 AM, PeterPan said:
Is it acting like my ds is a special snowflake to ask the church to convene a team to help my son attend, or is it just going through the normal pathways?
I just feel like I've gotten no traction asking for help in quiet ways. I asked for the songs ahead of time so I could teach them to ds (remember he has apraxia and can't sing, so he struggles to participate for half the service) and sometimes I get them, sometimes I don't. I asked for a buddy/aide for him, and they said oh well that should happen naturally, pray. He was surviving in the previous SS and then they changed it without asking and he refused to go. Tried Awana, but they placed him too high.
I just feel like I'm going about this all wrong, like I'm not getting the right person to help me. I need someone who can tell everyone else yes, open these doors, stop screwing around, help her, be more considerate, this must happen. I keep thinking of things that could help, and there's even a book on it that says stuff similar to what I'm saying. (flex placements, provide buddy/aide, etc.) and nothing happens.
What is the normal procedure for asking for these accommodations or asking for something to really HAPPEN? I must not be asking the right people. I want this church to work, but it's frustrating. And yet, if I go be direct and say Hey, could we convene a team of the pastoral staff, the SS director, etc. to make a coordinated plan for how we can help ds participate better, is that saying he's a special snowflake and I think too much of him? Like to me, I think there could be a lot of flex offered. I think he could go in a preschool nursery and play while a buddy pairs with him. I think they could ease him into things. I think the music director could give me the list of songs directly rather than going through the secretary, who hasn't been getting it done consistently. LIke I don't have them for this week. WHY?? Do they not CARE how hard I'm trying to get him into church and that little things like that make a BIG DIFFERENCE?? Do they not CARE about my son?
In reality, the answer is obvious. They don't. If they did, they would have already offered this. But I wanted it to work. It's a small church and I can fit in here pretty easily. It doesn't offend us in any way (except their antiquated adherence to KJV-only, which I suspicion reflects in-church fighting not actual views of the pastor). So do I just need to ask better for help or move on? That's the real question of the day. Sigh. Another Sunday.
The church should accommodate your son. It shouldn’t take loud demands to make that happen. He is child of God and deserves to have whatever he needs to participate. As an adult with LD it makes me very angry. To see kids who struggle and those who should be the most kind and accommodating. Not doing what they should.
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On 3/2/2020 at 4:52 PM, Mom28kds said:
We aren't sure about job/career at the moment. Thanks 🙂
Completely understandable and my parents were not real sure with me either. I did graduate from public high school in 1991. I took LD General Math my freshman year. Sophomore year it was LD Consumer Math. I have been very lucky to take some college classes. No math classes at college level so degree of any kind is out. But I took child development classes in high school. After I graduated I was able to get job as Teachers Aid at Daycare center. I live in Illinois so high school diploma is all you need for that. Some states don’t even require high school diploma. I have taken some Elementary Education courses too. She may be like myself and never get college degree. She can still be independent and have job she loves. With family of her own. Is my life different than my neurotypical developing siblings yes. It is still happy well lived life.
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Using myself as an example. I have dyscalculia and I am an adult. If they do what I can do math wise they should be okay. I can balance check book and make change. Cooking and baking I can do as long as I have measuring cups and measuring spoons. Even double recipe. II need calculator for tip and figuring out discount on sales. I bought the book Learn Math Fast volume one. I am making progress the other thing that really helped. Was taking Cooking and Culinary Arts in High School. Maybe buying some used simple cookbooks might help her. Giving her budget for A meal was something my mom did at home with me. So I could manage at the store. I know it seems scary now. But I did graduate from high school. Took few college classes. I am married and have child who is grown now. I always wanted to work with kids. Got job in childcare at 21 and work part time as Nanny now. Be patient with her and yourself. Sending hugs to.you both
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Hi I am an adult with dyscalculia and dysgraphia. Along with DCD math by far had been my biggest struggle. I didn’t know all of my multiplication tables until last February. Place value I don’t have good grasp of. So maybe taking little break playing some math games. Reading some living math books might help. Give your self and him little time to figure your out where you go from here. Hearing about your son makes feel guilty. For complaining about not being able to add fractions on paper. I can cook and bake with no trouble. So I need to stop whining and be grateful. Sending hugs to you and your little boy.
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Hi I am sorry your son is having such trouble in math. I have dyscalculia and I am 50 years old. It bothered me that I didn’t understand math some of the trouble your little guy is having I do too. Not being able to line the problems up. Reversing numbers and forgetting steps to the problems. I finally got all of multiplication tables memorized in February. I did some free online games to get them memorized. Try graph paper to help him line the problems up. You may have to sit with go over each problem as he does them. I bought Learn Math Fast volume 1. As I am doing the problems I talk about each step as I go doing them i feel sorry for him and you.
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Hi I just saw your post. No I don’t homeschool and my son is 25 years old. He already graduated from high school. When I graduated from high school in 1991. I had dyscalculia and dysgraphia. So traditional high school classes were not something I did when it came to math and science. Does your daughter enjoy working with young children ? I always wanted to work in childcare. Basic certificate in Child Development. Doesn’t require any advanced math and science. Depending on what state you are in. They may. not have specific requirements for homeschool high school graduates. Check community colleges too they may have other certificates she can do that don’t require advanced math and science.
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I have DCD and 50 years old. Received PT at Easter Seals until I was 11. Yes I do have dysgraphia and dyscalculia as well. I can drive but didn’t get my license until I was 20 years old. Yea there are a lot of things that I don’t very well such as going up and down stairs. Things do get better as you get older.
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I have dyscalculia and graduated from high school in 1991. Math is huge struggle for me. So last February I bought Learn Math Fast. Though it doesn’t have a lot of hands on things in the book. You certainly could add that if you wanted to. I have made a lot of progress the books are about $40 on Amazon. Maybe you could try that instead.
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I am 50 years old and have DCD. No I don’t have Autism. So very possible that your son doesn’t either. I do have dyscalculia and dysgraphia. Received both special education services and physical therapy. In elementary school. I had hard time catching balls and anything requiring large motor skills. I didn’t learn to drive until I was 20 years old. But I did graduate from high school. Have worked in childcare and I am married with 25 year old son. This is treatable disorder but it is life long.
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On 3/26/2014 at 6:58 PM, Jann in TX said:
Humm... very few students with dyscalculia are able to advance to the level of 'Algebra'. Most will stay under the 4th grade level (if it is true dyscalculia) their whole lives.
If your student is aproaching Algebra and has a variant of dyscalculia then I would strongly suggest a program that works with the way your student learns best.From your description it looks like your ds is 'hands on'... I'd progress to something like the Key to Algebra series-- and keep up the manipulatives as much as possible.
It has been years since I have used them-- but there is a product called 'Algebra Tiles'-- that is a manipulative that helps with algebraic thinking.
After the Key to Algebra series I would move into MUS Algebra 1. If your son is able to work that at a statisfactory pace (1-2 years) then I'd move to a basic Geometry or Algebra 2. If Algebra 1 has not been mastered at a 'standard level' after the second year I would suggest pulling back and working on life-skills math and coping strategies.
I have had a few students with dyscalculia who were able to progress to Pre-Algebra-- then they focused on life-skills and computer use.
HTH
You are right. But as an adult with dyscalculia. There are very basic workbooks in Pre-Algebra from 3rd-5th grade. That would give students like myself. Sense of accomplishment as far as feeling. Advanced math was possible. Kumon sells Geometry and Measurement workbooks. From 3rd-5th grade also.
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On 7/18/2016 at 6:44 AM, Rosie_0801 said:
My dd has dyscalculia and wouldn't learn arithmetic at all without CSMP. I'm not sure that the techniques that work for her would work for someone more severe though, from reading around the forum here. I haven't anyone else to test my theories though. :)
CSMP works for dd because it teaches in pictures first and her non-verbal intelligence is much higher than her verbal intelligence. Have a look at the 3rd grade entry supplement here: http://stern.buffalostate.edu/CSMPProgram/Primary%20Disk/PrimarySupplment.pdf
The minicomputer lessons are awesome. They are brilliant for place value, provide a foundation for the concept of simplifying fractions and develop number sense by really highlighting the fact that numbers are just pieces of other numbers.There seem to be a lot of people with dyscalculia who can do higher maths, but not the arithmetic. I think it must be that they understand the arithmetic but can't do it. I don't see how they could do higher maths without understanding, even if they have to actually *do* the arithmetic on a calculator.
But I have a 9 year old who is two years behind in maths, so I can't speak to what a 10 year old ought to be doing.
This sounds fantastic. My name is Angela I 50 years old dyscalculia adult. I hope it helps your daughter. She is extremely smart math is just hard for her. I did graduate from high school. Started working in Childcare when I was 21 years old. Took classes at Community College. A good happy life with career happens. Sending blessings too you and your daughter.
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I realize this thread was started nine years ago. Since I am an adult with dyscalculia. Who graduated from high school in 1991. I took two years of basic special education math. I am very lucky in that I had no difficulty telling time. Was able to memorize my multiplication tables through the 9’s. My son Joshua is 25 years old now and was always math wiz. By the time he was in 3rd grade in public school. I couldn’t help him anymore. It always bothered me and felt that I was dumb. So I am 50 years old and trying my best to improve. My math skills. I bought Learn Math Fast Level 1. I am not only enjoying it a lot. Now I realize math can be fun. It is something I can do. If you child like myself. Just go slow the most important thing is that they have the basics down. If they go on to community college and math scores are low. See if they will wave the math requirement for their degree. Please know your child’s struggles are not your fault. They are wired like I am so it takes them longer to process numbers. I apologize for any punctuation and grammar mistakes. Unfortunately I language learning disabilities also.
Failing at Homeschooling/Not cut out for this
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You absolutely are not failing your kids. There is awful lot on your plate. Give yourself A break. My son is an adult and went to public school. I nanny for my niece and nephew. Help with my almost 3 year old granddaughter. Because my husband has dementia. I can’t do any classes outside my home. Because these boards I found ways to use free online classes. Used textbooks and keep myself busy. I have math related learning disability that. Requires lots of remedial work and as you can tell. My grammar and writing skills are also affected. Homeschool families are doing great things. For your kids and for me too. If you think it is best to put them back in school. Then you should do that. Be kind and gentle with yourself.