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5 hours ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:
I worked a 24 hour shift yesterday and woke up from my nap feeling terrible. I wanted to go see my grandmother who’s in short term rehab tonight and so tested, and guess what.
i have Covid.
Again. And I’m vaccinated and boostered with Moderna. We use fit tested N95s with all patients and masking is required in public in New York.
I’m so grouchy. And DH is on a 24. And my kids are almost home from school. And I just want to sleep. I have no way to isolate, since someone has to take care of the younger kids(my 11 year old is self sufficient but he can’t take care of the 6 and 9 year olds). And basically I feel like there’s just no way to avoid Covid at this point unless you’re going to be a hermit.
I'm so very sorry. Now because of someone else's "freedom," you will be unable to care for others. I pray your turnaround will be fast. Please rest and get well!
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Gone too soon. 😞 Another star gone from the sitcoms I used to watch as a child...so sad. 😞
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13 minutes ago, Spirea said:
Yes, it's so divisive. I haven't volunteered the info that dd12 is vaxxed. People are just so weird about it. Last spring, when I mentioned to a friend that I was vaxxed she was very concerned if I wanted to have more kids because she was convinced about the vax causing fertility issues. I'm not going to have people acting weird to my kids when they discover they are vaxxed.
I do understand not wanting kids to mask for 8 hrs a day. I would hate that also, especially for speech concerns in young kids. I'm really thankful to be homeschooling through all this. I wish they could maintain safe pods with testing and no masks but it probably isn't realistic so masking is the best option.
I wish it wasn't so divisive. Some people really don't know how to pick their battles! I got laughed at when I got my first vaccine, and I am sure this same person would think it was insane I'd even be considering vaccinating our children. I, too, am grateful to be able to homeschool. I do think about shipping off our oldest to school, but with omicron, I am afraid they'll eventually send him right back home to me, lol. I really think kids' attitudes have a lot to do with their parents' attitudes.
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10 minutes ago, Spryte said:
I read that 16% was the percentage of kids 5 - 11 who’d had at least one dose in early December. Might you have seen an earlier report, accidentally, or do you have a link? I posted the aap link above, with 25% in the US, but widely varying between states. It’s not a leap for me to believe that most kids around you, and most people you know are not having their kids vaccinated, if you live in a state with a lower rate. I’m sorry. I know it’s adding stress for you.
I, too, live in a low vaccination area for kids, and we just did it. We went the very first day shots were available, and we were one of maybe five families in a huge vaccination clinic. But I have high risk kids, and I’m high risk. Three in our household have suffered mightily from what started as common colds, we feared we would lose them, so I’m not willing to take any chances now, and I would move mountains to make sure my kids had every extra chance they can get, should they get Covid. Plus, we are a science family—we do vaccines and follow medical advice, so this just was part of our family culture. I understand other families have different experiences and different cultures informing their decisions.
Oh that could very well be. I remembered reading it in some article about children and vaccines, but it is good to see that number increasing. I've seen a lot of apolitical people in this area become more political over their "causes." They hate that their kids have to wear masks at school, but I am sure their kids would have a better attitude if they knew why. I really cannot get over this disregard for others, not just with a refusal to vaccinate, but with every layer of trying to help out during all of this.
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5 hours ago, Lovinglife123 said:
Alot of the materials you can use just the resources (literature, Greek myths, poetry & bible book to read and enjoy vs study for example). We recently had from the library a book called the story of Astronomy & Space. My kids loved it!
A lot depends if you want to continue Latin now or wait til they are all older. I was going to do it as a group when they were all young but I have heard they can master this in middle school in a couple years as mostly independent work.. so on the shelf it went!
I felt like we could have done many things as just read and enjoy, but then I started to question myself and if they would get the max benefit out of the "class." Last year we didn't have Classical, Christian, or Latin studies. So it does feel like there is a lot more this year. My son is doing First Form Latin this year in 4th. He is literally just doing it and not memorizing, which I was warned not to do... At this point, I am thinking we might choose a less intense Latin or some other foreign language to keep up with it, but I just don't think he has the maturity to memorize everything in the 4th grade. And it is scheduled for accelerated 4th or regular 5th in MP. I do not see his maturity level changing that much next year, lol. No shame in shelving Latin in my opinion anymore!
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7 hours ago, wendyroo said:
But the bottom line is that you simply don't need a lot of pieces for those grades, and if you choose each one yourself you can make every minute count by ensuring (or, at least trying to ensure) that each material is targeted at exactly what that child needs...not what a publisher thinks the average child of that grade needs.
This year I have a third grader.
Every day he does:
- math (~30 minutes)
- reading (~30 minutes of reading from a novel that he picks from pre-approved choices)
- and listens to read alouds (1-2 hours of history, science, poetry, literature and Spanish).
- He also practices the piano daily for several hours because that is his passion and he wants to be a composer.A couple times a week he also does:
- spelling (~15 minutes)
- typing (~15 minutes)
- writing (~30 minutes)
- and Anki (~20 minutes, a flashcard/spaced memorization app. I gradually add cards to his deck that cover geography, great works of art, kitchen safety, music theory, poems, quotes, speeches, science (names of bones, classification of living things, eons of geological time), the presidents in order, Spanish vocab, spelling and grammar rules, literary elements, etc)That means, all total each day, he does about 2 hours of "sit down" work (though he has severe ADHD and almost never actually sits to do that work), about 2 hours of listening to read alouds (mostly during meals/snacks + audio books in the car), and 1-2 hours of piano. He does chores, plays outside, goes to extracurriculars, builds Lego, play board games, helps cook meals, listens to music (constantly!), bickers with siblings, does science experiments, folds origami, Skypes with his grandparents...and basically just lives an interesting, balanced life that is almost all "educational", but certainly not dominated by "school".
I think less could be more, too. They will be Kinder, 2nd, 4th, and 5th next year. Each individual piece seems important and necessary, but I sometimes wonder the benefit. I think I fell into the trap when purchasing all of our MP materials that they had to have certain things, or they'd be missing out. I honestly do not see the benefit of them doing cursive copywork, for example. They're doing: Latin, States/Capitals Geography, English Grammar Recitation, Writing and Rhetoric, Copybook for Christian Studies, Christian Studies, Greek Myths, Literature Studies, History Read Alouds (when we have time), Spelling, and Astronomy. I'm pretty sure I forgot something, lol. Each of those has student guides with vocab, comprehension, etc. I am not going to buy ALL the things next year, nope! lol
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23 minutes ago, Spirea said:
Yes, it is true the majority of cases is very mild. Anytime I find out someone's kid had covid, I ask how severe. The answer is always no big deal, just a cold or afever for a day or they were tired. Always mild symptoms in every one I've asked.
That's what I have heard, too. But I hear about the long covid and mis-c that can come from suspected asymptomatic cases or known mild cases, and I worry. 😞
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Yes, the misinformation is hard. People cast doubts into society. I always had slight concerns my kids would have reactions to regular vaccines most kids get, but never have I experienced such extreme anxiety over the decision. It does help to see other areas have greater rates and better results. I just live in a poorly-educated community that actually voted for the public school to be mask-optional before the governor mandated masks again.
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4 hours ago, Spirea said:
When the vaccine was first available in Nov, our friend who is a Dr and has similar age kids said he was waiting a month to see if there were reactions before vaxxing his kids. He said in the last 20 yrs there was an RSV and a flu shot that were bad. We thought we would follow his lead. Then our pediatrician was going to have the vax for her office, so I was waiting for it so it would be nice and tidy on their records. I never heard from them and finally called and had completely missed their vax clinics. Then I called every other clinic and they either didn't do the young kids or were booking out until February. I didn't want to go to Walmart or similar. If my allergic kid has a reaction, I want him near a Dr or hospital. Got appointments at a public health clinic and both ds7 and ds10 had their first shot yesterday, but then I felt so panicked that i was making a mistake and kept thinking, I don't know anyone vaxxing their young kids. We had no allergic reactions. Both kids have a slightly sore arm, though dd12 (fully vaxxed awhile ago) didn't even have that. Now, I'll be stressed for the next 5 weeks until fully vaxxed. We have been careful and avoided covid but our numbers are crazy right now and so many people are unmasked.
I have just felt so panicky and have extreme anxiety over this decision. Honestly, this board is the only group of people I know vaccinating their kids, with my SIL being an exception with their 10 year old and teens. I hate that this is a multi-step process, but as I've read here, at least one dose offers a little bit of protection, too. Stinks we are going through this with our kiddos when some adults won't....and they can't even be bothered to take precautions during surges let alone this whole pandemic.
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3 hours ago, desertflower said:
Yes, my 11 and 9 yo are vaxxed.
when we thought we had covid right before lockdown, my then 7 yo had a 103.5 fever. The one and only time any of my kids ever had that high of a fever. I never want to experience that again.
Oh my goodness, that must have been so frightening. That is so scary. I told my husband that was a great fear of mine. Sorry you went through that. 😞
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2 hours ago, HomeAgain said:
Statistically, what are the comparative chances of adverse effects from getting the virus? And since your dh is not vaxxed, and you being vaxxed helps lessen the results for you, are the kids sheltered enough to remain safe from those chances?
Oh I am sorry, my husband is vaccinated, but it doesn't seem like he will get the booster shot. I could be wrong. His second dose was at the end of September. He works from home this time of the year, and the kids are homeschooled. My worry is that his parents will bring it home from her hospital stay or that my daughter will pick it up in her dance class, which does have strict precautions. I understand it is safer to get antibodies from a vaccine than the illness itself. My anxiety is probably emotionally-driven. I am still mad many adults won't even consider it.
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4 hours ago, Insertcreativenamehere said:
My 9 yo was vaccinated the day after his age group became eligible at the earliest possible appointment I could find.
He has an immune deficiency, developmental delays and a past history of severe, life-threatening respiratory issues. He has been on a vent for RSV and pneumonia several other times. I don't ever want to experience that again.
Oh my goodness. I am so sorry you've had to experience that in the past. I completely understand your decision!
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12 hours ago, Lovinglife123 said:
I actually like TGTB old math for my preschooler. I do not like spiral so that is a big reason the LA doesn’t work for me.
We switched away from TGTB, and I worried about the beauty and color they would miss out on in a curriculum until I realized they were getting that through all the books we were reading and the games they play. The kids I know that have used it, didn’t love it as much as the parents did. It was still work! It often needs to be supplemented, and it often takes a long time to finish with multiple kids! Many mothers of younger kids seem to have no other time left for anything else. We finish up our math and language arts (including poetry books, gratitude journals, and bible readings I’ve added to their baskets) for 4 elementary kids in about 1-1.5 hours. We have so much time for cooking, arts/ crafts, field trips, outdoor play, read alouds, science, music, history etc. Curriculum can not give you that 🙂
Thank you so much for sharing. Ugh, that worries me---needs supplementing! Yet it is time consuming. I feel like those two things shouldn't go together, lol. 😞 I don't mind time consuming, but I have definitely read these criticisms. I think the best part of the curriculum is that it has beautiful art and color. Another worry of mine is that I felt the print was small and there was a lot of it, especially in the history curriculum. I cannot imagine getting through even math and LA in that amount of time with my four. But my oldest is not motivated at all. And we haven't gotten a grasp on the chaos. I guess TGTB appealed to me because I could have less pieces (even though I don't like teacher/student info combined), but I want them to get a solid education, too!
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I read a quote that 16% were vaccinated and that the rollout would be slow. I canceled a clinic appointment that allowed walkins and scheduled private appointments at the health department. But to be honest, I am very nervous and am still not sure I can go through with it. I worry my children will be rare outliers with adverse effects or some mysterious problem from them will in fact arise later on, even if there doesn't seem to be a reason that even could happen down the road. I really wish we had the Novavax option for them, but even when it gets approved for adults, it seems it will be some time before it gets approved for kids. Also, it is a process. I do have somewhat of a luxury to go back and forth because they are very sheltered right now. ** we adults are vaxxed---my husband won't, but I will likely continue on my course of getting boosters as long as it seems pointed and purposeful. The response so far to your survey is not representative of the general population. I am very worried about the effects of the virus, even mild cases. I feel very torn and have a lot of anxiety over all of this. To be fair, I have felt anxiety over my shots, perhaps irrational, but it is easier to choose for myself than for my children.
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9 hours ago, heartlikealion said:
My kids were exposed. They are at dad’s right now. I found a place doing testing at convenient times (including weekends) and forwarded the info but apparently the free test is subject to office fees. Kids have no symptoms so as of now they are just staying home and keeping their Walgreens appointments set for next week.
Saw on Google today that with joint legal custody you still need to be on same page regarding things like vaccines in order to get children vaccinated. Still looking for decent masks for dd (some approved ones look like they fit awful and might be too beak shaped to wear a second mask on top. Too much fabric, too).
Oh no. 😞 I know you were worried. I chickened out of our vax appointment but made new ones where we won't be in a crowd of "walk ins." I'm still so nervous about it. My husband and I, married, don't always see eye to eye, well, maybe he just believes things are exaggerated or that there is a profit motive behind the push for vaccines. It is hard, but I am grateful that he doesn't take the kids to stores or busy places, so we are on the same page there. I buy KF94 masks on Amazon for th kids and for us. The kid ones are small and fit my kids well, plus they have the little rubber push thingies to tighten them up. We buy black ones for ourselves. They are so much more comfortable, I think than cloth. I don't like the beak shaped ones, either.
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My county population is about 100k, and there were about 1700 new cases this last week. It said our positivity was only around 10%. For us, that is a lot of cases (it's rural), but I suspect the naysayers never test. I didn't take my daughter to dance this week---temps are taken, masks required, nobody else allowed in the building but students, etc. I don't know if I should just put her in class next week. She does wear a KF94 and the class is 45 minutes long with about 10 girls.
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On 1/4/2022 at 9:37 PM, ScoutTN said:
I think many new homeschoolers start with an all-in-one box curriculum. It can be a good way to wade in, with lots of structure for your first year. Many of them (not all) are actually school curricula with slight tweaks.
A grade-in-a-box can help you to see what you like and don’t, what works for your family and what doesn’t. It also highlights that kids have varying abilities and interests and don’t fit neatly under a grade level heading. You may well need more advanced material in one area and something easier for the same kid in another. Younger grades can be done quite simply and inexpensively with solid focus on the three R’s, a library card, and freedom to play creatively. I think many moms here agree that an hour of focused academic work (not all at one sitting) per grade year is a good rule of thumb. 2 hrs for 2nd grade and so on.
These boards are a treasure trove of experience and wisdom. You can read about curricula and find out why it worked or didn’t for various people - SO helpful. There is a massive amount of homeschool curricula now. You don’t have to research everything! Just find what works for you.
There is less discussion of educational philosophy here than there used to be, but you can find old threads or start new ones.
Enjoy the journey! Spend oodles and oodles of time on the sofa reading books! You won’t regret it.
Thank you very much! Yes, when we chose Abeka, I honestly didn't know how much else was out there. I liked it, but I didn't feel there wasa lot of flexibility to explore certain areas more in depth. Now, Memoria Press is time-consuming, too, and I feel like I am in a different kind of trap. I do like a couple of elements of the program, though. I would like to find a very colorful and beautiful curriculum, which exists, the Good and the Beautiful, but I hate that the student and teacher information is all in one book.
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I would love to visit the Northeast, primarily Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont to see the beauty of that area. We go to Minnesota every year, and it requires hotel stays on our way there/back. DH's family is big on indoor hotel pools, which hasn't been too fun for me, worrying about covid (plus I dislike them in general). I found one with patio doors to the outside and was told I could open them when they are in the pool area, lol. Ventilation!
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5 minutes ago, TexasProud said:
I never felt bad after any of the shots. I just don’t like medicine. I cannot do pain meds and other than vitamins don’t do anything other than advil once or twice a year. I just don’t like the idea of chemicals in me so much. At this point, if I am going to die, I will die.
Yeah, but see, you did your part. You did three shots. Some will never do 1, so I guess we just have to achieve the path from pandemic to endemic the harder way.
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13 hours ago, TexasProud said:
Nope. I am done. I mean are we supposed to get a booster every 2-4 months? Not sustainable. I mean here we are getting booster after booster and the majority world can’t even get the initial vaccine.
In a year, if I need a shot , fine. But I am done. 3 shots will have to be enough. Just done. The goalpost never stops. I am done.
I read an article about this. At some point, you can only boost so much before you've maxxed out your benefit. I know everything says these are safe and all that, but boosting myself an unknown number of times is one thing, but for my children, it is a much harder choice. I chickened out of the kids' appointment this week at a clinic and made appointments at the health department across the county to get individual time slots without a crowd. I am still not sure I can go through with this, knowing they're still getting the original formula. I'm just bitter I shouldn't have to worry about my kids as much because adults could do better---not just with vaccines, but with precautions. I feel like I have to protect them from idiots. And yes, the logistics already suck of dealing with this with four kids.
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We had new quartz contertops installed in September. We were told not to put anything hot on the invisible seams and that it could potentially stain. I am not sure if it has more to do with the coating? Anyway, we went through Home Depot. They work with the Countertop Factory, and everything was extra, including the smaller seams and the rounded edges for the sink to prevent chips (we did an undermount sink). Overall, I love the countertops but try to treat them with care. Often, they are covered in papers, lol.
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2 hours ago, kbutton said:
See, where I am, this line of thinking is the banana peel that put them in the ditch, but they don't see that they could've kept these same concerns and not used it as a slippery slope. It's about knowing where your limits are--at one point, no matter your philosophy, do you say, "Wait a minute, have I gone off the cliff?" Lots of people do not have that failsafe. The originator of this thread has talked about having limits--things that would make you stop and check your bias, though I don't remember her phrasing.
People here are very, very much in the ditch. Some are stuck and some are playing in it and choosing not to hop back out. They are doing it for political reasons and due to influencers they trust that they don't realize are conspiratorial. They see that the person is pro-life, a Christian, a fellow homeschooler (or whatever), and has the same political bent, and they throw out all reason.
I fit all of those same criteria, but these people haven't known me as long, and they don't like that I'm pushing back. They want full agreement, not friendly skepticism and critical thinking. (ETA: I am conservative, but not in the way that is currently embraced, and these folks were not that kind of conservative until recently either! I saw a definitive fork in the road, and they said they could take that fork and still end up in the same place. They aren't the same people anymore now.)
People are getting what they want, and I don't feel sorry for them. I just don't. They want cut and dry in a situation that is not so. They want the pandemic to be over when they feel like they can't handle it anymore or are tired of changing behavior (or had their politics challenged).
For most people, this is not about reason even when it looks like it could be. The ones that truly are middle of the road are there because they're cognitive filter says, "extremes are not reasonable." This usually works, but pandemics are extreme by definition. In addition, they feel pulled between varying loyalties that aren't factual. But they don't realize that the conspiracy theorists got there early, camped out, and are so extreme that it changed even what middle of the road looks like in the way that one bad answer on a four question quiz is very different from one bad answer on a 100 question quiz. The anti-vax people got there ahead of time too. In fact, they were planting information the minute there were shut-downs. I think a lot of normal people absorbed that and didn't realize where it came from. I was seeing crazy crap asap and wondering where it came from, but I hadn't taken screen shots, so I couldn't point this out later and connect the dots for people. If they understood that they've been drip, drip, dripped on by bad actors and see that the manipulators were waiting for their moment in the sun, I think they could be made to feel less conflicted and sever some of the ill thought out loyalties to see that the conspiracies are a bigger outlier than an inconsistent message.
It’s rough being a Covid-conscious conservative. I had a homeschooler tell me no one with a pro life stance would take a vaccine. She went on to further shame medical, science driven cancer treatments and claimed natural cures were best. My husband has gotten on the train a bit. I see glimmers if hope, but he will still praise some comments I find less than desirable… I can’t get over the disregard for life from the pro-life crowd, justifying the deaths of certain people. I guess I’m not really a conservative in some regards. Oh well! Lol
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We use a basic Mr. Coffee drip machine. I ordered a "budget" Mr. Coffee Espresso machine and expect to receive it today. I will try it. 🙂
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We started to homeschool because of Covid, though I always had a curiosity about it. I think my oldest would be better off in a B&M school, but I have four children, and I am concerned about going from 3-4 students next year. But I feel I have no choice. Our local school is terrible anyway, so if anyone were to go to a school, it would be private.
Pfizer Omicron Vax Ready In March
in The Chat Board
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Round two of having appointments and anxiety over getting the three older kids vaccinated.
A temporary risk might be when my in-laws return home from the hospital and (he) staying in a hotel by the hospital.
An ongoing risk is my daughter's dance class (10 masked and distanced girls, screened prior to building entry).
So of course I see now the vax offering omicron protection will be available in March. So if we go through with this, they get the old version. I guess I could pull my daughter from dance and wait this out, even though I do fear one quick little outing could land us with Omicron anyway. Honestly, I feel like my kids are the last ones constantly missing out on their extracurriculars because of my fear/anxiety. 😞 Nobody else seems to be skipping stuff.