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2 minutes ago, Lecka said:
It’s hard to know if he would do better in school with more supports or a different placement (etc) without just trying it. It can go either way. If you never had a chance to try things it’s hard to know.
Yes. They pushed mainstream hard. He went from a small class of mostly autistic kids at a developmental preschool to a regular class of 20 kids with almost no supports. My son appears very high-functioning to other people. He actually is not, but because he is smart and sociable and has a large vocabulary, he appears that way. His adaptive skills are very low and his actual social understanding is low as well. I'm not sure what the placement options would be if I put him back in school, I'm worried they would just mainstream him again.
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19 hours ago, Lecka said:
I would not be able to homeschool my son consistently. He benefits a lot from the structure of school.
It is a lot of work even with public school.
I also do need a break.
There are kids who do better at home and there are kids who will do well either way. It just depends on a lot of things.
I have not done virtual school with my son with autism, though, I have worked with him on my own. But he’s mostly been in in-person school in the scheme of things (aka he has been home several months but less than many places in the country).
I am not sure if my son benefits from the structure of school or not. He was very, very unhappy in mainstream kindergarten, even before virtual started. And then virtual was a disaster. Ultimately I want to do whatever is best for him but I'm not sure what that is.
ETA: I did ask him about going back to public school and he started to cry.
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18 hours ago, PeterPan said:
Of course, truth be told path into HBOT for me was a concussion, maybe not your preferred plan for getting a break and time alone.
Do you ever just disappear? Have you taken a break since covid started?
I've had a mild concussion years ago, does that count? Kidding (well, not about the concussion).
I haven't really had a break since covid started. I was feeling overwhelmed yesterday with everything. I had a good cry after I posted here.
We were able to get math done today after some negotiation.
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We have lots of professional help. I do want to bring in some more but not while eveyrhting is virtual where I live ...
I think maybe I'm just having a bad day.
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UPDATE - We took a break, it was awesome; this week we are trying to ease back into school and it's not going well at all. He is resisting everything. I'm starting to wonder if a lot of what I thought was his attention problems is actually just delaying tactics on his part, like pretending he doesn't hear the question.
Should I give up on homeschooling and put him back in public school? I can't even get this child to use the restroom or wear his glasses consistently, so I'm not sure what business I have trying to educate him, really ...
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4 hours ago, Dreamergal said:
K-dramas or Korean dramas are addicting. I fell down that rabbit hole a few years ago.
They are seriously addicting. I don't watch much TV but have watched quite a few K-dramas.
One of my earliest memories is of my grandmother wrapping me in a sari she'd brought back from India, where she'd lived for years and where my dad was born. We are white. It's sad to me to think that could be considered cultural appropriation.
When I was in Bavaria I purchased a dirndl from a very kind woman who fitted me and everything; she was one of the few people I met there who didn't speak any English (I spoke enough German to get by). I'm not a local, but my heritage is German and Austrian.
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Just now, Not_a_Number said:
I feel like what I said was very seriously misrepresented.
Yes, it was.
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7 minutes ago, PeterPan said:
Did his vitamin D go low? Vitamin D can also stabilize mood. Throw all the younguns outside now that the weather is improving.
Probably! Yes, we will spend lots of time on hiking trails and the park. DH wants to take him fishing, too.
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I just decided we are taking next week off. This is undoable and it wasn't this bad a few weeks ago.
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2 minutes ago, kirstenhill said:
We have some of those things going on in our house, but not all in the same kid so, take my advice with a grain of salt. 🙂 I've noticed that my kids who sometimes want to get into either an argument about basic facts, or an argument about an answer in their school work (i.e. - I say, "This answer isn't 25." Then they say, "The answer key must be wrong."), will believe Google over either me or an answer key. I tell them to ask Google, and surprise, surprise Google will agree with me or with the math answer key. And for whatever reason this works - Google KNOWS. 😄
I have one child who has decided about a few things that he is right and the rest of the world is wrong. For example, this child is convinced that everyone everywhere even famous mathematicians are wrong about 1 not being prime. We just have agreed to disagree about it for now, and I have said he can take it up with his professors when he goes to college. Honestly I do think he will change his mind before then. But if I had a kid that would just not listen to any expert and was convinced that Komodo Dragons lived in the arctic, I would just let them know that I will agree to disagree and look forward to him growing up and traveling there to prove me wrong someday.This made me laugh. Yes, we "agree to disagree" a lot in this household. I've learned there is very little to be gained from arguing with him. Unless it's a safety issue or something, I generally drop it. Sometimes we can come back to it at a different time and he will accept correct information. Sometimes not.
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Hi, I'm new around here. I'm currently homeschooling a 6 year old first grader diagnosed with ASD, ADHD, dyspraxia, dysgraphia, and possible dyslexia (for complex reasons we were unable to have full dyslexia testing done). He can be quite oppositional and I suspect he would be diagnosed with PDA if we lived overseas.
In some ways homeschooling is going well. He is learning and progressing, and we have fun a lot of the time. But he argues with me constantly - about basic facts (eg "Komodo dragons don't live in the Arctic" or "this is a triangle") as well as schoolwork and self-care activities and such. This week has been particularly difficult as he has been pushing back hard on everything. Right now I'm thinking we need to try stimulants again (he had a bad reaction to the stimulant we tried, but I think it's worth trying a different one) and maybe eventually an anxiety med. I don't know what else? My impression is that everyday things are quite difficult for him for many reasons and I wish I could make them easier while still helping him become more independent.
Those of you that have homeschooled kids like this, did you find a particular approach was helpful? I try to be flexible and collaborative and give him a fair amount of control while still covering what I feel he needs to know and what's required by my state.
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2 minutes ago, Dreamergal said:
Books to me are art. So who does art belong to once it comes in the public domain. I absolutely have no clue about the legal side of it, but it enters the realm of ethics for me.
Do we as the reading public get a say in which existing books are published further if the publisher or an author decides to not do so ?
I see similarities in the discussion about who does English belong to ? Can people who were colonized by the British truly claim English as theirs ? Does a person of non-English descent lay claim to Shakespeare, Jane Austen when their primary reading language from a child was English, they were schooled in English yet they are not English ?
I agree. While I totally understand the desire to be able to take back things that one regrets, writers sometimes regret great works of literature. If Tolstoy had had his way, we might not have "Anna Karenina" or "War and Peace," as he was ashamed of them in the later part of his life.
And I believe that the English language, classical European arts, etc, belong to anyone who wants to lay claim to them. There is an essay by the poet Marilyn Nelson about the dilemma of writing in classic verse forms as a black woman. It's called "Owning the Masters." I don't expect everyone to agree with this view or to want to lay claim to these cultural artifacts, but they are there for the taking, for engagement, for reinterpretation, for those who want to engage in these ways.
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4 hours ago, Sneezyone said:
There aren’t enough ‘wise’ teachers on Earth to give it appropriate context. Most of it is offered up without any literary counterpoint, only the ill-informed opinions of ‘peers’ for discussion, with those on the receiving end of biases having to inform those who are ignorant or swallow their BS whole. Unless/until Native Son is read alongside other similarly difficult high school works, it’s all lip service.
ETA: Let’s take the perennial favorite Huck Finn. How many teachers require students to critically analyze the story from Jim’s perspective? How many encourage kids to think about the perspective that doesn’t exist b/c Twain wasn’t privy to it? How many critically consider the language/cant for authenticity? Is Jim stupid or shrewd? How did he really feel caring for/saving and also relying on this clueless little white boy? These aren’t the questions being asked when these books are read.
You can’t credibly talk about works as academically valuable without working through these issues. In my experience, which is not any different from what DD is experiencing, shallow analysis is the norm b/c the very people ‘teaching’ these works haven’t ever wrestled with these issues themselves.
We read Native Son in my high school lit class. We also addressed pretty much all of those questions (if memory serves) when reading Huck Finn, as well as the question of whether that book should be read in school at all and its emotional impact on black people. It sounds like maybe my experience was unusual though?
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I think this is reasonable and appropriate in this particular situation (the estate deciding not to publish certain books that aren't popular anyway and are offensive). That said, there is a larger context in which some people are calling for the disappearance of many books and arts and the concept of canon (eg. I saw a discussion about classical ballet yesterday in which someone called for us to "burn it to the ground and start over" and it had a bunch of likes), and I think that larger context is what worries some of us.
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1 hour ago, JMyers0365 said:
My oldest daughter is 6 1/2 and we pulled her out of public school in the fall too. We opted for WWE and FLL and I've been really happy. We started in Sept and she'll finish up level 1 next month. We plan to use level 2 right after. She has lots of fun with it. Not sure what we'll do after that, but it's been great for her this year.
That's great. Are you planning on homeschooling past this year or not sure yet?
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55 minutes ago, Melissa in Australia said:
Ah I see, sorry.
I have great difficulty so. Etimes with translation from American English to Australian English and miss finer details
No worries. I should have been clearer.
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5 hours ago, Melissa in Australia said:
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It can be caused by other things
Twin 1 has ODD - it is part of the indicator that he has FASD.
it isn't fun at all . I am getting sick of being yelled at
I was being facetious in the bolded part; sorry if that wasn't clear. I have read things, including medical articles, that said ODD is caused by too little discipline AND by too much discipline. Basically finding any way they can to pin it on the parent, regardless of parenting style. I don't believe that's actually the cause.
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1 minute ago, Lecka said:
PDA right now is totally self-selecting people trying to figure things out.
That's a very, very good point.
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12 minutes ago, Lecka said:
I guess what I think is — anybody who is going to go “you’re a bad kid, I’m washing my hands of you” about ODD is not going to go feel sympathetic to PDA.
I think someone sympathetic to ODD will be sympathetic to PDA and vice versa.
Someone who is interested in knowing why someone described as having PDA acts in certain ways, will probably show that same interest about ODD.
I think this may be true, but I also think that the way ODD is usually framed is less likely to lead to sympathy, either for the kid or for the parents. I have read a lot online about ODD and have noticed a lack of interest in what's actually motivating the child (whereas people who talk about PDA are trying to figure this out) as well as a lot of parent-blaming. Apparently ODD is caused both by too little discipline and too much discipline; you can't win.
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As I understand it, PDA is diagnosed in the UK and not the US, so if you're in the US and have PDA-like symptoms, you're going to get an autism + ODD diagnosis. ODD is not itself considered to be on the autism spectrum.
Arguably, the two diagnoses are different ways of interpreting similar behaviors, with different implications. I'm not saying that they are definitely the same thing, but I suspect there is overlap and a lot of subjectivity.
I have a child with ASD with oppositional behavior (but no ODD dx so far). Some days, it does seem like he just enjoys being defiant ... but ultimately I know there is more underlying those behaviors. Things are a lot harder for him than for the average person. But it would be easy for someone who isn't his mother to look at his behavior and attribute malice.
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Well, after changing my mind about twenty times, I actually decided to start with FLL 1. It came in the mail today and I've incorporated it into our plans for the coming week. We'll see how it goes!
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I don't know of DVDs, but do you already have the Usborne chess book with the puzzles and stickers?
Edit: It might be too young for him, I'm not sure ... but I am working through it with my almost-7 year old and am learning things myself that I didn't know.
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Sympathy here, too. I have a kid with ASD/ADHD/maybe other stuff, also very strong-willed and can be just rude and awful with threats, aggression, etc. These comments are helpful.
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Arguing, so much arguing
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Right before covid hit they cut his time in resource room completely as he was supposedly doing "so well", even though he was hurting other kids and coming home talking about blowing up the school.