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This really isn't about cameras and privacy. It's about an idiot who continued to harass a child when the mother said NO. The camera was the tool that they used, but it could have just as easily been something different.
I know a lot of people from different cultures, and I can't imagine anyone who actually stopped to think would think that it would ever be acceptable to try to go around a mother standing between them and a child and explicitly saying "no." Not for any reason. Not in any culture. Anyone who uses their brain would know THEY CROSSED A LINE and they needed to stop.
People get a camera in their hands and do stupid, offensive things. I think that goes across cultures. People kill themselves trying to get selfies. People kill themselves by staring at their phones instead of where they walk. An idiot really wanted a picture and let go of all common sense and basic courtesy. Again, this goes across cultures.
I agree w/ the OP that the tourist was way out of line. I'm really surprised to see so many people trying to defend this person who tried to go around mama to get to child.
Could the situation have been handled differently or diffused earlier? Maybe. But that does NOT mean what that tourist did was okay. Not by any stretch. Nope. The tourist was way out of line and should not be excused because she is from a different culture than the OP's.
Thanks. This is what I'm getting at yet I've become the anti-world anti-traveler, which couldn't be further from the truth. People haven't read my posts because I get that photos are part of culture now, security or otherwise and have stated so several times. All I'm left with is that people must find it self gratifying to rudely gouge at a woman online whose only effort was to take assertive measures to protect her child from out of control tourists. And they were out of control. The irrational leaps folks have made here are outstanding! To go from a JAWM post right on to how I must need to hide in my house. Lol. Shakes head.
Parents have to become advocates for their kids. All I'd be doing for my child and others by writing to embassies would be to be an advocate. If people roll their eyes, who cares. It's amazing posters here have basically damned me for wanting to make a bit of an effort to help educate others on what is acceptable and what isn't. Chasing a child under NO circumstances is acceptable or normal. If you think otherwise then you must be the odd one.
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Yep because chasing a freaked out four year old at a high cliff overlooking a waterfall to get his picture is totally acceptable. Eye rolls at you. You have no idea that this was not a photo from afar. It was a blatant disregard for safety, privacy, wishes of a parent, and scared a small child.Does anyone still wonder why we are considered "The Ugly Americans?"
People took pics of my kids all the time when we traveled. We've often wondered just how many scrapbooks they are in. Especially when it's tourists, it's honestly not that big of a deal. In the OP's situation, we'd have posed and had a delightful conversation about where they were from or where they were visiting, etc. We'd have made new friends, if only for a snapshot of time. It's a far, far better life (less stress, etc) than getting knickers in a knot about minor differences in culture.
I'd be far more concerned about a stalker back home taking pics or something similarly ominous.
The OP can write the State Dept, but they'll probably just get a big laugh out of it TBH - along with rolled eyes - and I feel for the poor dude or dudette who has to compose a "sympathy" letter back.
I get societal norms...I'm a world traveler. This is not that. This isn't taking someone's photo at a distance of even five or ten feet. This is trying to push around me to get a pic of my terrified son.
By the way, I didn't say State Department, I said embassies. Why would I write to the US State Dep when the issue lies with the Asian nations? I don't want your answer. Just a rhetorical question.
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If your daughter is an analytical, go-to-the-balcony type, you might try chucking Rosalind Wiseman's Queen Bees and Wannabes at her. When my eldest went through a similar stint at a similar age, she found it transformative. It's in its gazillionth edition by now but I expect the message remains pretty timeless.
It identifies and provides a vocabulary for the different roles girls-in-groups play -- the Queen Bee, the Messenger, the Banker, the Bystander, the Target, etc. Just naming it and framing it as something that is (dishearteningly) common, for my daughter changed the dynamic -- she started seeing the nonsense in a more abstract, this-too-will-pass kind of way. Still irritating for sure, but not quite as personal, definitely not quite as lonely and isolating. Like walking through middle school simultaneously as a participant and also as sociologist.
If she's that kind of kid; not all are; my others aren't.
I've never heard of this book. Gonna buy it... I have two very young daughters.
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Here's what gets me... I know it's a public place. So if you must photograph my kids then do so at a distance with zoom or out of their and my space. It still enrages me, but whatever, it's out of my control legally.
These people were in my kids' personal space. Once when I saw it happening I loudly shouted "No!" And jumped in front of my son. Another time I blocked a woman from getting a good shot and she proceeded to try and outsmart my movements to take his picture. These examples are out right violations of private and personal space of minors.
So no I didn't smash her camera, however, it's darn near close to that when they get into touching space of my kids and my family. My children aren't the same as mud pots or bison.
Unacceptable. I'm going to write letters to the nations' embassies in D.C.. it's THAT bad.
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Photographing my kids.
We've been traveling for nearly two weeks out west and about five days in Yellowstone. I have four light skinned, blue eyed, blond or brown haired kids. Some middle aged Asian women were chasing, yes chasing, my kids to get their pics!
I would say "No!" and step in front of my kids. One woman tried to go around me and snap the pic at another angle.
I told my kids if they saw someone taking their photo who wasn't dad or mom to turn their back.
It's beyond obnoxious. Are Asian tourists advised that this is unacceptable?
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Math. Show him the math. The numbers laid out in black and white.
IF you make X you can have and do Y.
IF you make A you can have and do B.
Let him decide whether he wants X or A.
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Insurance varies across state and international lines. Some here have said insurance follows the car, whereas I've also heard of insurance following a driver. This is solely a question for your insurance.
In general I'd be in a "no" position to allow someone that much use of my vehicle. You won't be able to control where they go besides school. Parties? Stop overs elsewhere. All this equals more possible liability.
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I was your daughter and it's truly painful. Looking back, here's what I would've done differently...
Rather than sulk at the corner, or be sad, I wish I would have not let them know it. I think it gives nasty girls ammunition.
What also gives nasty girls ammunition is being happy and finding new friends.
Rock and hard place.
I'd do this...ask the question, "What's your problem? I'm fine to hang out with on xyz but here you won't. That's so 6th grade. If you don't want to be my friend, fine, have the guts to tell me. If you do, I'll meet you at the flag at 2pm and we can walk home and forget this happened."
This makes DD bigger than the nasty girl and puts nasty girl in place to have to answer to her nastiness.
Chances are, there's something about your DD this one lead nasty girl finds threatening. Her coping method is to throw knives at your DD rather than deal with her own short comings or failings. But this never changes in adult life either. Best your DD faces it now...it's not going away...women are such witches to one another.
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You deserve respect and privacy in your own home. But it sounds like kid has free range of your home. Maybe bedrooms/private areas need to be off limits now?
You should trust your gut. Also, I had a BFF in HS that was stealing from retail stores. It was tough but I actually ended my friendship with her. I was worried I'd get "blamed" if I was with her "guilty by association."
Chances are if this kid is stealing at your home, he's doing it elsewhere. Or will do it elsewhere in the future. Are you prepared to have your child "guilty by association?"
Change the rules at your home. Like he stays in the foyer. Or don't drive him.
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A few things people might not realize:
-When you think you need to thaw it, find out which credit agency they check. Sometimes the creditor will tell you and you only have to unthaw that agency, which saves money (if it costs money in your state).
-When you thaw, you can specify it to refreeze automatically on a certain date. Then you won't have to pay for it to be frozen again.
-You can continue to use all current lines of credit and they continue to report to agencies, even when your credit is frozen. So nothing about your credit score changes. It just means people can't open new cards or take out mortgages in your name (or in another name) using your number.
-Children may have a higher risk of having their identity stolen than many adults, although it may be that their identities tend to be stolen by relatives. States are beginning to allow children's credit to be frozen, but I believe the process is more complex.
I agree. It's a lengthy process to freeze Childrens credit. I've looked into it. They want copies of birth certs, parents' IDs, and other info to verify who is freezing on the kids' behalf. That's fine (makes total sense) but it's harder to do. My credit is frozen. I think it's $6 per agency in MN to thaw it. But when you thaw, you can select for how long (a few days up to six months).
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On Amazon, buy a product called Wee Cleaner. It's marketed for pets, but works for humans too. We used it for my grandma with the same troubles on upholstery.
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Wow, thanks guys! All of that makes sense; I've just never had to think about it. I did get a case (like a 40 pack) at the store yesterday, but on the way home was wondering what the "just in case" scenario would even be.
And I agree about the evacuation vs. sheltering in place conundrum. I guess water purifying tabs??
The general guideline on water is a gallon per person per day. That accounts for drinking, hygiene, and cooking. Plus more if there are pets or extra if you just want to. Water tabs and droplets expire and can become toxic after their expiration. I'd advise a good gravity driven hanging filter. Also, its helpful to know a local natural water source like a lake, steam, or pond. If you see cat tails growing it means there is water within 1-2 feet of the surface even if you see no visible water.
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Can't help with the lease agreement, but -- Are you sure there's propane in the tank? And have you checked the fuses? Could be a blown fuse that's keeping the blower from coming on?
There is propane (we can cook). Checked fuses. Ignition works, heater is seized up. DH and FIL looked it all over about four days ago. Problem is the heater itself. Fuse box is a joke too...several are by-passed/hot wired.
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On breaking rental agreements for large vehicles, namely RVs.
We're on a trip in WY now in a Cruise America RV, that we rented for $3100 for two weeks PLUS mileage, in our home state of MN. The heater is busted. Not the vehicle heater, but the RV heater. There's a bunch wrong with this thing that we couldn't know until being on the road. But the night temps are down to the mid to high 30s. We have a baby with us. We bought a space heater, which works IF we can get sites with electrical hook up OR we can run our generator BUT most camp grounds have hours no generators can be run.
MN rental law states that RVs must have certain life sustaining things. Heating separate from the vehicle's heat is one of them. This RV does not. So it violates MN law.
In the Severability Clause of the contract there is language that indicates we could get out of this thing IF laws dictate otherwise.
I'm not looking for extras. I want reimbursement for our space heater AND I want a full credit back. That's where I'll start, at least.
Thoughts? Any stories? FYI we've called Cruise America twice. No help. They said "can't help due to Labor Day weekend call Tuesday" so we did. Guy told DH he'd call us back and he never did. Is my beef with the MN rental agent or Cruise America, which is FL based??? Or should my CC fight this for us?
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A+++ for us too! I have retirement investments and brokerage with them.
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Someone asked about using our homeowners, we could but our deductible is $4k (by choice).
This is making me cringe how much this may cost. I'm seriously hoping they can be reasonable. It's a bad time too. We leave for vacation tomorrow. Expenses expenses expenses.
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Was the paint disturbed? If it is just a dent with no scratching etc, it could be a matter of just pushing the dent back out which is not very expensive. If the paint was disrupted, the repair will be more costly.
I'm not sure. DH saw it. I didn't (yet). That's good to know though. Thanks.
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What kind of car is it?
Some sort of mid sized SUV American made, I think.
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Wow this is helpful. I've never heard of this before. For health I really need to drop at least 40 pounds. I'm only 35, 5'3" and am nearing 200 pounds. Before 4 kids I weighed 136. My BP has always been great. My chloresterol is normal, ok but on the high end of ok.
I am horrible at real diets. I do occasionally go to aqua fit classes (my back is bad - and I see a chiropractor for that) but twisting even little bits causes me to go out and have pain. Anyway, I usually only have coffee in the morning and can go right through to lunch not eating.
I'm buying the book!
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Into the neighbor's new car. And dented the driver's side door. It was totally an accident. DH was nearby when it occurred and immediately told them to let us know how much it would cost to fix. DH then walked DS back over to say a face-to-face apology.
DS is 7. He's pretty upset by this and feels clumsy. He prides himself in being a good operator. We've explained mistakes happen (even to mommy who has backed into a fence). The neighbors accepted his apology and are peaceful about the whole thing because they know we will make it right. And we will.
DH asked them to get an estimate for the work. What are we looking at here? $500? More? Less? Neighbor didn't want to file an insurance claim. I have no knowledge on body work.
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In the Twin Cities, I'd echo the recommendation of the Science Museum. Great fun for all ages. The Minnesota History Center, about a mile away, is also excellent for all ages. The Children's Museum, also in St. Paul, has recently been renovated and is fantastic but definitely geared towards the under-10 set. Depending on what you're looking for, I can offer other suggestions - just PM me. :)
For a getaway away from the city, I suggest going to the North Shore of Lake Superior. That starts at Duluth, about 2 hours north of St. Paul. In Duluth, you can watch ships come in and go out of the harbor, there is a maritime museum, a great sand beach on Lake Superior at Park Point, etc. As you drive north from Duluth along the lake, there are a plethora of resorts that might fit your needs as well as state parks with great hiking and lake viewing (and even places for the kids to wade and/or play in the tide pools) One of our favorites is Gooseberry Falls State Park about 30 miles north of Duluth. Others include Tettegouche State Park, Split Rock Lighthouse State Park and Temperance River State Park. We like to drive along the lake as far as Lutsen (about 2 hours north of Duluth) and stay at Caribou Highlands Resort. It's just off the lake on Lutsen Mountain (a ski hill.) I'd categorize Caribou Highlands as fairly affordable with a variety of lodging options - hotel rooms, townhouses, condos, etc. There is a children's nature-based day camp program and scheduled activities for all ages (mountain biking, canoeing, s'mores every evening, family bingo nights, etc). There are both indoor and outdoor pools, a sauna, hot tub and a restaurant on-site. The condos and townhouses have kitchens. Nearby is an alpine slide and a gondola as well as lots of hiking. If you're looking for more expensive options, look at Grand Superior Resort or Lutsen Resort. From this area, you can also access fishing trips on Lake Superior as well as a variety of other activities.
Totally agree. Our family always stays at Blue Fin Bay. You can rent fully furnished town homes (1-3 bedrooms). Or actual lake side homes with 3+ bedrooms.
If it were me, I'd do two days in The Cites and the rest on the North Shore. I'd add a long haul up to Grand Portage to learn about the trampers, fur trade, and rendezvous. Then I'd eat lunch at the Naneboujou Lodge. Grand Marais is fun - walking out to the light house there.
Blue Fin Bay has free bike rentals. And it's centrally located to all the best sites on the North Shore.
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Just watched a video about it on weather.com. They don't even know if it will hit the US at all. It's too soon to tell. But they said it was odd for a hurricane to form so strongly this far out at sea this early on in its life.
BUT
I strongly encourage people to prep anyways, even if it misses us because prepping is good. We should keep our eyes on this for sure!
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Colour v colour, -ise v -ize, etc.
Btw, grey looks classier than gray. :001_tt2:
I agree. I like grey better.
Kid shoes cheap or expensive?
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You may find shoemall.com helpful. They sell new shoes always 20-30% off retail. They usually have the colors that never sold well, but not always.
It's where I buy the family's KEENS. I buy a pair per child nearly every year. They hold up so well and are machine washable. Older DS passes his to younger DS and my two DDs will do the same.