Sumiller Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 My ds15 is ready for a solid worldview curriculum. I like what I see in the Cornerstone materials. The only question is do I start him in Starting Points or jump right into Worldviews of the Western World I. Has anyone gone from Starting Points into WVWW or even skipped Starting Points and gone right into WVWW? What would be the pros and cons to doing it both ways?? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin's Mom Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sue, Everyone that I know that has used this has started with Starting Points and then moved on to the next level of WVWWI. We are going to do Starting Points ourselves this year. HTH Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol in Cal. Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Also, you might look thoroughly at the TE and see whether you like the format. It doesn't really give the answers to the questions. That's fine if you're going to facilitate the learning by doing it yourself as well, but I have noticed that a lot of parents of kids in their mid-teens want something that is either grab and go or independent. Don't know how you would evaluate his work if you didn't also do it yourself. Very attractive programs, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Marple Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Hi Sue, I have taught both Starting Points and WVWW. The first year I taught WVWW none of the kids had taken Starting Points. Our youngest students were 9th graders and we had 1 11th grader. I definitely think one could go right into WVWW without problems as long as he/she is a good reader and diligent worker. Ideally it would be nice to do both, but I would recommend just going into WVWW if you only have a couple of years left. If you only had 1 year to do something, I would recommend Starting Points (tweaked for an older student). I don't think Starting Points really prepares one for WVWW but rather it is a condensed version of the deeper program, WVWW. I think you could go either way without a problem. Personally, if I had a 10th grader, I would start WVWW and do all 3 years - skipping Starting Points. If you wanted you could do some reading over the summer to start her thinking in that direction (Assumptions is a great book used in Starting Points, How to Be Your Own Selfish Pig by Susan Schaefer McCauley is used in many programs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumiller Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hi Sue, I have taught both Starting Points and WVWW. The first year I taught WVWW none of the kids had taken Starting Points. Our youngest students were 9th graders and we had 1 11th grader. I definitely think one could go right into WVWW without problems as long as he/she is a good reader and diligent worker. Ideally it would be nice to do both, but I would recommend just going into WVWW if you only have a couple of years left. If you only had 1 year to do something, I would recommend Starting Points (tweaked for an older student). I don't think Starting Points really prepares one for WVWW but rather it is a condensed version of the deeper program, WVWW. I think you could go either way without a problem. Personally, if I had a 10th grader, I would start WVWW and do all 3 years - skipping Starting Points. If you wanted you could do some reading over the summer to start her thinking in that direction (Assumptions is a great book used in Starting Points, How to Be Your Own Selfish Pig by Susan Schaefer McCauley is used in many programs). Yes, this was my dilemma. I only have 3 years to go with my oldest son so I would rather jump right in to WVWW. I guess, I was just worried that there would be some foundation laid in Starting Points that would frustrate us if we didn't have it. I like your idea of some summer reading. :001_smile: Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumiller Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Also, you might look thoroughly at the TE and see whether you like the format. It doesn't really give the answers to the questions. That's fine if you're going to facilitate the learning by doing it yourself as well, but I have noticed that a lot of parents of kids in their mid-teens want something that is either grab and go or independent. Don't know how you would evaluate his work if you didn't also do it yourself. Very attractive programs, though! The funny thing is. . .what I like most about this program is that I want to learn it too! So my ds is stuck with me doing this alongside him. Sometimes he just hates how excited I get. . .there is no way I would let him have all the fun! :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momto4greatkids Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 My son did WVWW this year as a 9th grader. He did not do Starting Points last year although he did go to Worldview Academy which helped to get him thinking in that direction. I am doing Starting Points with my daughter--6th grader, and I would recommend summer to include parts of How to Read Slowly. If you could get your hands on a Starting Points text, you could know what parts of the book Quine has the students read. Also, I would suggest Know What You Believe. We will not be completing WVWW--we chose to work through the parts we did thoroughly instead of rushing through. It is alot of material! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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