Osmosis Mom Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Miquon is a hit with my twins and they are moving along. Now I am wondering what to use after they are done and am open to different suggestions. Miquon is up to grade 3 and introduces tons of different mathematical concepts. We are not really using the rods unless there is a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchfire Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 We were using Developmental Math alongside Miquon, but dd hated it, so I offer that - one kid who loved Miquon hated it. ;) We moved into the Key to... books and Life of Fred. Both of them have been a big hit - Fred moreso than the Key to... books, but she likes both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Kash, LOL!! I have one girl who is a mathematical thinker and loves math, while the other one is just scuffling along. I wouldn't do Key to...except for review on concepts the child needs to reinforce. LoF - which level did you put your dd in? I would think theose books would be good for the less-mathy girl (who is very literate), but not for the math-loving girl because she reads a lot slower and only wants to read when in the mood!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchfire Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I started her with Fractions. She's zooming through it. It's actually meaty stuff, IMO - a lot of the questions really require her to think about what's being asked. Now, I would personally say she's pretty mathy, but I'm using the Key to... books mainly because I have no proof that my theory (learn the basics and then go ahead and proceed with algebra if the child seems to get basic algebraic concepts) is going to work. ;) Assuming she keeps going as she is, she'll do LoF Decimals & Percents at the beginning of next school year (so, technically 4th grade) and then we'll go ahead with LoF Beginning Algebra... despite recommendations to wait until she goes through puberty because I have no idea what we'd do for math for four years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hmm, sounds like a fine plan to me. No need to wait for puberty to do algebra. Miquon and Singapore both introduce algebraic concepts at an early stage so there is nothing new under the sun when the questions get trickier. I own the LoF books so I'll take a look at the Fractions one for dd. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saille Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I had this same question. I know they can go to Singapore, but I've seen people transition their kids to 3A and also to 4A, so I'm curious about that. Also, what if you really like the way Miquon operates? I love the breadth of the connections they make between different math skills. Is there some other curriculum out there that's actually similar, or are we going to have to move to traditional textbook math? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmosis Mom Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 I guess their skills after Miquon would put them into 4A, but because SM is so different then 3B might be better in order to first build confidence. We also have SM, but my girls gravitated towards Miquon and I love how easy it has been on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallory Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 My oldest finished Miquon at the beginning of this year. For the rest of this year we have just kept up the math lab concept and added drill. We have lots of math manipulatives that they have "played" with the past few years, but he is/has now working/ed through in a more orderly fashion. Books for our geoboards, base 10 blocks, the Get a Grip kit from TOPS, and dominos, as well as books like Multiplication Mosaics and Division Designs. I am sure there are other things as well.... I have also added drill. He didn't really need any help on +, - went quickly, and we are working on x, but he also is quite good at it, if not as quick as I would like. We are also working through CWP 3 (and I have 4 and I am trying to decide if I want to get 5 and 6). When he is done with all of our elementary math things, then he is going to work through Lials Basic College Math. Then LOF Fractions and Decimals and Percents with Chalkdust Prealgebra. I am not sure where to go for Algebra, but I already have LOF Beg. Alg. I don't want to start him on the LOF's yet, and I don't want to get to Algebra much before 7th. Although I can see that he might work quickly through Lial's and CD Pre-Alg. So adding this year of "fun math" in now is working good for us and gives me a chance to get some extra drill in with out it being to boring (I mean when your math to day was pouring lentils around, you don't complain much about a few flashcards;)). So to sum up end of 3rd- most of 4th-- Continue math lab idea and drill work 5th- Lial's 6th-LOF frac + dec, Chalkdust Pre-Algebra 7th- be ready for Algebra- LOF??? Chalkdust??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) Older DS who loved Miquon went to Singapore afterwards. We skimmed through the 3A/B to make sure there were no "gaps" and to give us both a chance to learn how to use Singapore. Also, the 3A/B level is where they first introduce their nifty "bar" visuals for solving word problems. As I recall (it's been a few years ago, now!) we were able to skim 3A/B (working mostly in the 3B) and completed all of 4A/B that year, as well. BEST of luck, whatever you go with! Warmly, Lori D. Edited April 22, 2009 by Lori D. correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saille Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm bumping this thread, because I still haven't seen suggestions of a program that is similar to Miquon in philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheBrink Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 If I had it to do all over again, I'd have gone from Miquon to MUS. We messed with Singapore, R&S, Making Math Meaningful, MEP and finally settled on MUS. DD was literally heartbroken over finishing Miquon and MUS was the next best thing for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 MEP math and Singapore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Rose Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 If I had it to do all over again, I'd have gone from Miquon to MUS. We messed with Singapore, R&S, Making Math Meaningful, MEP and finally settled on MUS. DD was literally heartbroken over finishing Miquon and MUS was the next best thing for her. Which MUS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well, this is an old thread... We've moved to Beast Academy and the Key to books for now. I also have a number of 4th grade+ C-rod resources books. MEP was a bomb, Singapore was a bomb. MM is definitely a nonstarter with this kid, and it's what his twin uses, so I'm not going there. I'm not interested in MUS. I didn't want to invest in all the bells and whistles of RS only to have it run out on us a year later. I'm still wishing there was a resource about long division that was more like the Key to books or like Miquon. If I had that, I'd feel pretty confident, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Rose Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Yeah, as soon as I hit post I realized how old the OP was. Oops. Do you like Keys to? Where did you start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Yeah, as soon as I hit post I realized how old the OP was. Oops. Do you like Keys to? Where did you start? We've only just started them - I got the Fractions set to see if I thought it would work for us. He flew through the first book (almost all review for him) and started the second one (some new concepts). The physical look of the books is similar to Miquon, so that's a plus. Some people feel they don't have enough concept teaching, but I see building ideas through practice, which I think is a form of concept teaching and I can supplement that a little with some activities with the rods and some other teaching. I think the other parallel I see between them and Miquon is that they start with really easy, intuitive examples as a way in and then build to harder examples and the algorithm. They're not as good or as conceptual, but I'll take what I can get. I went ahead and ordered the decimals and percents sets for us and we'll probably jump between them, which is one of the things this particular kid needs - to be able to hit a wall and put something aside for a few days and work on a different math concept. They're very different from the stuff we're doing with Beast Academy, so I think they make a good pair for him in that way as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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