mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I attended the Midwest Homeschool Convention in Cincinnati the last couple of days. SWB had just received them so she was able to bring them to the conference!! I attended all of her workshops as well. I learned so much! Awesome!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I am green with envy.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loupelou Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I am green with envy.:D DITTO!!!:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 oh wow. there are no words! I'm so green...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 I am oozing jealous thoughts. no fair, no fair, no fair!!! Now that I am over that please be the first to report what we all what to know.... What is the new Logic stage history spine recommendation????? If you tell me, I can go to bed in peace. She says that depending on the student's reading skills and maturity level, to choose from the following: 1) Usborne Internet Linked Encyclopedia of World History - she states that this is the simplest and is good for the average 5th grader 2) Dorling Kindersley History of the World - simple high school level basic text but is written on a 6th to 8th grade level 3) National Geographic Almanac of World History - comprised of short essays - most useful for a strong 7th to 8th grade reader 4) History: The Definitive Visual Guide (published by DK) - beautiful book but reading level is quite difficult; for advanced students only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wow - that wasn't an easy answer LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 History of the World DK is a beautiful book and the one I am chosing to use! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Q Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Eep! How exciting. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorbackmama Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 So jealous! They aren't available yet on the PHP site. NO FAIR.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcindy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 When is it due out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiopianFood Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 So start typing! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 WOOT WOOT!!!! I was one that suggested the DK Definitive History and was pulling for it!!! Yippee! The other choices are GREAT too! I love that she did the different levels (and once again proved her genius by choosing more than one and thereby protecting herself from OOP problems!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hmph. :glare: I'm going to go pout now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltrees Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Even my typing is green......:glare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Even my typing is green......:glare: :lol: That made me laugh! Funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HFClassicalAcademy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 When is it due out? I've been also patiently waiting. Reading this makes me want it now!!! :D I keep reading that it is available mid-April. But it's closer to the end of April now and I'm just trying to be patient! Liz in NC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Amazon has a release date of May 4th on my pre-order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsunshine Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 My pre-order at Barnes and Noble also has a release date of May 4. :glare: But maybe this means that the books might be released a tiny bit earlier??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 What are the major differences between the versions? Now that there is a 3rd version I feel like a cavewoman still using the 1st version. Thanks. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Ooooooooohhhh.... I'm happy for you, Mommy25! Thanks for sharing the recommendations for the logic stage history. That's awesome! I think I may buy it too. It's just too good. Really good recommendations overall. I read The Well Trained Mind (first edition) a few years ago -- can anyone remind me whether it has literature selections per grade? Read-aloud vs. readers? I'm greatly interested in these. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I know that Galore Park sent SWB copies of Latin Prep and I'm very curious about what she thought. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'm seriously jealous. :tongue_smilie: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesloonybin Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Does that mean she will have some at the Williamsburg Conf.???? Please say YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elise1mds Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Oh wow... OHHHHhhhh wow.... jealous. So jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda in TX Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hopefully this means I'll get it soon. Although, I don't know why I bother. I know I'll end up buying it. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardening momma Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'm high up on the list at my library. Hopefully this means I'll get it soon. Although, I don't know why I bother. I know I'll end up buying it. :D I don't know why I didn't think of checking my library...after all, I did get my library's 1999 edition. Thought I'd better get on the list, but I see they don't have it on order, so I suggested it for purchase...if I'm the first to suggest it then I'll be first in line for the book! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 I know that Galore Park sent SWB copies of Latin Prep and I'm very curious about what she thought. Laura It looks like nothing has changed for the logic stage except for the 3rd and 4th grade which she states you can use Prima Latina or The Big Book of Lively Latin. Everything else appears the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 Does that mean she will have some at the Williamsburg Conf.???? Please say YES! I am sure she will! She had tons of them at the Cincy Conference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommy22alyns Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Every time I see this thread, I keep thinking, "Do you have enough for the whole class?" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 What are the major differences between the versions? Now that there is a 3rd version I feel like a cavewoman still using the 1st version. Thanks. :) I think the main differences are the lists of resources. She has updated her math recommendations by adding Rightstart and The Life of Fred. She lists The Life of Fred under "fun stuff" for math rather than to be used as the main text. She also is recommending Traditional Logic for the Logic Stage now because they have teaching DVDs to go along with them. She no longer recommends Introductory and Intermediate Logic simply because they were created for classroom use. She says Traditional Logic is simpler to use. She also has added more detailed help for outlining in the history sections. So again, I think it is mainly just updating all of the new stuff that has come out and removing things that may not be available any longer. Also, her new writing and language materials are listed in there. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 It looks like nothing has changed for the logic stage except for the 3rd and 4th grade which she states you can use Prima Latina or The Big Book of Lively Latin. Everything else appears the same. Thanks for the info. Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I know that Galore Park sent SWB copies of Latin Prep and I'm very curious about what she thought. I saw the new copy on the lectern when she was preparing to speak on Thursday evening, and it was all I could do to keep from running over and snatching it to look up three things: 1. Is Right Start Math now included as a grammar stage recommendation? Yes! 2. What are the new logic-stage history recommendations? Already covered in a previous post 3. Is Latin Prep a Latin rec? No. I wonder why. I'm disappointed because it is the one that looks most interesting to me. I'm not interested in the religious suggestions or Lively Latin. I got to sit next to SWB at lunch. She's soooo nice and very funny, and it was amazing that she took time out of her insanely busy schedule to meet with Hive Minders. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TengoFive Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I got mine there too. I can't wait to crack it open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 RE the Galore Park Latin book: I liked it, but at the time that I was turning in the final galleys, the books were only available from the U.K. and for various reasons we're reluctant to recommend resources that don't have a regular U.S. distributor. I did email asking them if they had any plans to pursue U.S. distribution, but never heard back. SWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peela Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I am interested in what SWB has to say about children with learning issues- I seem to remember she was going to write some more about that in her new book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly IN Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) I decided to go ahead and get the book myself. I attended majority of her workshops. The one I didn't attend was the Literary Anyalisis. It was too late in the day. I wanted to be home by 3:30 so I left at 12:30. My mom attended some with me so she found SWB to be humorous in her talks. She enjoyed it. She did go to Mark Hamby's talks and LOVED it. Plus I am on SWB's blog. She took pictures of the 9:30 writing class. I sat on the left side of the room right up front. So go back three rows and I am sitting on the outside with a burgundy shirt with med length brown hair. SWB: I am the one that came up to you after the Independent learning talk and asked about the fast work with majority wrong in math (re: my 14 yr old). Hi!! Holly Edited April 19, 2009 by Holly IN Added more info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 I decided to go ahead and get the book myself. I attended majority of her workshops. The one I didn't attend was the Literary Anyalisis. It was too late in the day. I wanted to be home by 3:30 so I left at 12:30. My mom attended some with me so she found SWB to be humorous in her talks. She enjoyed it. She did go to Mark Hamby's talks and LOVED it. Plus I am on SWB's blog. She took pictures of the 9:30 writing class. I sat on the left side of the room right up front. So go back three rows and I am sitting on the outside with a burgundy shirt with med length brown hair. SWB: I am the one that came up to you after the Independent learning talk and asked about the fast work with majority wrong in math (re: my 14 yr old). Hi!! Holly Hi Holly! I am sitting right behind you in the pink shirt! I talked to you briefly. You were looking for your mother! Great convention! I am so glad it is close to Indianapolis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Oh I forgot to mention - I LOVE the way she changed the format for the book resource lists. She has them all numbered which makes them easier to read. I high recommend getting her new book! What a valuable resource! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Susan - I am looking online for the outlines of your workshops you gave in Cincy. Are they up yet? I couldn't find them. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly IN Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Susan - I am looking online for the outlines of your workshops you gave in Cincy. Are they up yet? I couldn't find them. Thanks I was looking for them too. Susan did a wonderful job!! I really enjoyed her talks. Too bad I can't go to the one in May that she is sponsoring. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly IN Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hi Holly! I am sitting right behind you in the pink shirt! I talked to you briefly. You were looking for your mother! Great convention! I am so glad it is close to Indianapolis! I KNEW it!!! I knew I have seen you before but didn't ask you because you were talking to the woman in red. Next time I see you I will say hi and vice versa. Did you go to the Indy one this year? I didn't go. I really want to go back to Cincy next year. THe food prices were unbelievable. I couldn't believe how expensive it was to eat there. ggggrrr!!! Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Corin Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 What a shame - I've always found them very responsive, so I'm sad that they didn't reply to you. There now is a US distributor - horriblebooks.com. Maybe for your next edition? Regards Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle T Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 There was a very lengthy thread on adding this info to the new edition some months back. I'm hoping it made it into the book. If so, I'm definitely buying it. Michelle T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 And to add to Laura's suggestion of Horrible Books, BookDepository.com has free shipping worldwide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommy25 Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 There was a very lengthy thread on adding this info to the new edition some months back. I'm hoping it made it into the book. If so, I'm definitely buying it.Michelle T Hi Michelle, Yes, there is an added section on this. It may not be what you were expecting though. There is only one page devoted to this topic. But I whole-heartily agree with what she does say. Basically, spend more time in the grammar stage and more time in the logic stage, going at the child's pace and accept the fact that they might not reach the rhetoric level. Thats okay. Most importantly is working with patiently. She also recommends making use of specialists that can give you specific teaching helps for your child. I have found the new edition to be excellent, especially with all the new formating and updated resource lists. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Wise Bauer Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Unfortunately HorribleBooks.com isn't a distributor, just a single business which imports from overseas. After my experience with Kingfisher I'm not going to recommend anything that isn't widely and easily available. SWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audrey Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) Unfortunately HorribleBooks.com isn't a distributor, just a single business which imports from overseas. After my experience with Kingfisher I'm not going to recommend anything that isn't widely and easily available. SWB You may not realise this, but there are several titles you already recommend are actually not widely and easily accessible unless you are in the States. I realise your audience is primarily American, but I can get Galore Park products easily enough here in Canada. The exchange rate is a killer sometimes though. :lol: I was wondering if in future editions, you might consider foreign recommendations as "additional options" with the caveat that it may be difficult to obtain depending on your location? Edited April 19, 2009 by Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niffercoo Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hi Michelle, Yes, there is an added section on this. It may not be what you were expecting though. There is only one page devoted to this topic. But I whole-heartily agree with what she does say. Basically, spend more time in the grammar stage and more time in the logic stage, going at the child's pace and accept the fact that they might not reach the rhetoric level. Thats okay. Most importantly is working with patiently. She also recommends making use of specialists that can give you specific teaching helps for your child. I have found the new edition to be excellent, especially with all the new formating and updated resource lists. HTH! OK, that actually does make it a little more confusing for me, though. It is OK to graduate a child who only makes it through the logic stage recommendations? I'm obviously not talking college bound, at least not 4-year/university. Right now, I'm just praying for tech school or community college being an option! But as he's getting ready to start 7th grade in the fall, I'm really concerned about how to handle high school. He is not working at grade level, and the slow pace is how we handle everything. He requires lots of repetition, slowing things down, and very little pressure. I have completely accepted that... but I just don't know how I am supposed to handle graduation when he may not be doing "high school" work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom2boys Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I attended the Midwest Homeschool Convention in Cincinnati the last couple of days. SWB had just received them so she was able to bring them to the conference!! I attended all of her workshops as well. I learned so much! Awesome!:) I bought it too, and Susan signed it for me! (Thanks Susan!) Mark your calendars everyone - Susan and Jessie will be at the Midwest Homeschool Convention next year, April 8-10, 2010, in Cincinnati, Ohio. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in Australia Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I have the book on order. just wondering.... does it have how to use history of the ancient world ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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