HappyGrace Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I'm considering writing some curriculum-many friends with whom I've shared things I've written have said I should sell what I write. It would be fairly simple, nothing complicated, but I'd like to fill a need. I'm just tossing around doing this so far, not totally committed to it yet. What's missing in the homeschool market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) more secular resources the likes of R&S, Memoria Press. a secular logic history program. Edited April 9, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 yes, I agree more secular curriculum would be welcome, especially science. Also I have been trying to find something like CLE LA but secular and so far I haven't found something I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loupelou Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 yes, I agree more secular curriculum would be welcome, especially science. Also I have been trying to find something like CLE LA but secular and so far I haven't found something I like. :iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeysuckle Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm always thinking gosh, if someone should come up with something great for this, I would be the first in line to get it. Something easy to use, easy to teach, and the student would know exactly how to write a great literary analysis. There are a couple of things on the market now, but not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagira Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yes, a great logic stage history program: engaging, intelligent, and the spine being a colorful, beautiful living book. Hehe.. In addition, I may be the only one looking for this, but a child-friendly, secular, logical explanation of all the major world religions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebug42 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Not sure if you could specifically help with this but my dream curriculum would be a Catholic version of Winter Promise/Sonlight. I get so tired of constantly adapting things and being on my guard for anti-Catholic references (that are even prevalent in secular programs). Good luck with your venture. My sister and I have often spoken of attempting such a venture but haven't had the motivation yet to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runamuk Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 more secular resources the likes of R&S, Memoria Press. a secular logic history program. Yes, yes, yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alana in Canada Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 If you're a Canadian, we'd love an SoTW type Book with Activity Guide, soon, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcindy Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 :iagree: More secular material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantlion Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Science material for the logic stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amtmcm Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Someone needs to write something like "The World of..." for Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. Teddy Roosevelt's life covers 1858-1919 (which would fit after Abraham Lincoln) and Ronald Reagan's life covers 1911-2004 which would overlap nicely and bring us to the present day. And more elementary and middle school historical biographies about WWI, Korean War, Vietnam War, Civil Rights, Space Race, Cold War, etc.... There is a much smaller selection compared to other historical periods in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingmom Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Science material for the logic stage. Science for logic that includes all the items needed for experiments (packaged) so we don't need to hunt for supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meldamo Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I dream of a great secular science program for logic and high school. We're a pastor's family, but that doesn't mean we want all of our science to be creation based. I also agree with the others who would like something great for literary analysis. I'm lagging in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle T Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I want secular curriculum that is written by and for homeschoolers. Not textbooks or workbooks originally intended for public schools. A complete unit study curriculum, like Konos or Christian Cottage, but secular. What a dream! Narrative, living book style science, like the Apologia stuff. Complete, living book history, all laid out with plenty of read alouds, but not based on the Bible. Secular equivalents to Sonlight, My Fathers World, Winter Promise, etc. Michelle T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 a secular logic history program. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmoira Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 And a secular logic program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakmom Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Secular logic and a secular science program for high school that is easy to use at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 a secular logic history program. I thought the general concensus was that History Oddysey did a good job for secular logic stage history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber in AUS Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I would LOVE to have purchased an AIO secular version of SL, WP, HOD, MFW. I just can't justify buying something only to not use half of it. Being in Australia it would also be awesome if the resource was available as an ebook so I could buy and have printed here and not have to pay postage which is huge. I can purchase most books here or get with free shipping from Book Dep so really avoid paying postage from the US where possible. If not an AIO then definately a secular science or geography. I also second a PP about a secular exposure to world religions without a biased either way. That would work excellently in with a geography plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melabella Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 :iagree: Science for logic that includes all the items needed for experiments (packaged) so we don't need to hunt for supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Might be hard for me due to my own personal faith tied into all I do. But the secular curriculum writers need to get cracking! Still, I will put this all in the thinker and mull it over for awhile.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyAberlin Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I would like a secular history like Sonlight, WP HO but not using SOTW. It seems like everything uses SOTW(please don't throw tomatoes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 we'd prefer to just listen to the CD, but use something else to base our history on-even with just two kids three yrs apart I get sick of SOTW for everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Do you know what you would like instead of SOTW? Little History of the World? What about a combination of sources with the Usborne Encyclopedia instead of one spine narrative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 I've never heard of Little History of the World? Looks like a good read! (except the first couple sections, but they always do that! :glare:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalynnrmc Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Science material for the logic stage. :iagree: Something non-science-types can teach, without it being highly teacher-intensive. Preferably following the classical outlines of biology/ earth&space/ chemistry/ physics... but with a 2 or 3-year window of when it could be used. Preferably usable in any order (aka each book stands alone), but having all of the classical divisions. Plenty of hands-on and practicing, without too much writing, and not so many all-out experiments that a non-scientist stand-aside type like myself can still manage. Something else: Writing curricula (and other lang. arts, comprehension is a biggie) for the language processing delayed children. Something that starts at basics, breaks it down further and in better bites than anyone else, but isn't babyish so that a 3rd or 4th grader (or older dc) can start from the rock-bottom and still feel comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalanamak Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 In addition, I may be the only one looking for this, but a child-friendly, secular, logical explanation of all the major world religions. I found this one acceptable: http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Childrens-World-Religions-2004/dp/0199112592/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239253283&sr=1-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaik76 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Not sure if you could specifically help with this but my dream curriculum would be a Catholic version of Winter Promise/Sonlight. I get so tired of constantly adapting things and being on my guard for anti-Catholic references (that are even prevalent in secular programs). Good luck with your venture. My sister and I have often spoken of attempting such a venture but haven't had the motivation yet to start. You're making me drool... (that would be in a good way...we're Eastern Orthodox and a Catholic version would suit us very well!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Hedgehog Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Rewrites of some of the really good children's narratives (a la Yesterday's Classics/Lost Classics) that aren't racist or religiously slanted. I really want my kids to read some of these classic books, but I can't deal with the racism and religious bias. Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo2 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm considering writing some curriculum-many friends with whom I've shared things I've written have said I should sell what I write. It would be fairly simple, nothing complicated, but I'd like to fill a need. I'm just tossing around doing this so far, not totally committed to it yet. What's missing in the homeschool market? Anything secular! Especially history and science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGin Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 A SOTW that is US history only. We loved SOTW 1 & 2 when we were doing world history, but when we wanted to focus on US history, Vol 3 was too scattered for us. I realize that our nation's history is connected to the world, but in the 4th-6th grade, when I want to give my children a solid foundation of our "own" history, it's weird and distracting, for example, to read about the pilgrims and the next day jump over to Japan. US History is so rich within its own borders, that it's a shame not to have an excellent, resource such as SOTW is, especially with the maps and coloring pages devoted just to it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa in the UP of MI Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Not sure if you could specifically help with this but my dream curriculum would be a Catholic version of Winter Promise/Sonlight. I get so tired of constantly adapting things and being on my guard for anti-Catholic references (that are even prevalent in secular programs). Good luck with your venture. My sister and I have often spoken of attempting such a venture but haven't had the motivation yet to start. I'd love this too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmsmama Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Thorough secular LA and Music for dummies courses would be appreciated by me :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialmama Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 If you're a Canadian, we'd love an SoTW type Book with Activity Guide, soon, please. :iagree: YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! *panting* YES!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee in MI Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 A Christian could write secular material. Susan does. Christians excel at secular jobs every day! And I find hostility to Christianity at least as grating as prostlytizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicMom Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 We are Christian and creationist, but that doesn't mean that we long for something different for high-school science. We too are looking for something that pulls together Language Arts for a complete program in high-school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyGrace Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Thanks, Dee. I have no doubt I could write secular, and indeed have written secular LA and history stuff for my own family. There are plenty of devoted Christians that I know that write secular curricula-Amy from Writing Tales comes to mind. Her products are still God-honoring in that they are done with excellence. It sounds like there is a huge market for secular. I'm not sure what direction I would take, if any! Just feeling things out right now. Edited April 9, 2009 by HappyGrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katrina Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Science for logic that includes all the items needed for experiments (packaged) so we don't need to hunt for supplies. :iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodland_Mom Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I pray that you are blessed in your desire to write a curriculum that is faith based! I would love to have a detailed phonics based spelling/vocabulary program that is tied to good literature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) I think many people want a continuation of FLL. Jessie has no plans to go above 4. That and a secular grammar program similar to Rod and Staff are requests that I see often and something that I may be likely to purchase myself. I really like the idea of something that continues US history to our time and would be likely to purchase this as well. All-inclusive LA seems to be a big wish too. Not everyone is happy with what is available. Personally, I don't like separate books. I would love to be able to always "do the next page" and have all of my LA (literature, read alouds, independent reading, practice oral reading, spelling, vocabulary, grammar, writing, poetry) covered. Edited April 10, 2009 by Lovedtodeath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'd like something like a secular version of Sonlight with lots of hands-on stuff. Fun, thorough, hands-on secular science would be great, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy from WT Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 ITA with the desire for a good logic-stage science program. My co-op and I have been searching for years for something that follows the WTM cycles (I hope I remember them correctly..I am NOT a scientist!): Biology, Astronomy, Human Body, Chemistry/Physics. This is such a wonderful four-year cycle, but we haven't found anything that puts this together EASILY for the Logic stage. God's Design comes close....but how wonderful it would be to find something that includes co-op plans and at-hand experiments! Our poor co-op science teachers have been making up our curriculum every year, and it is just so much work for them. We've come up with a 30-week long list of topics for each cycle, and they use stacks of books to pull together age-appropriate experiments and hands-on activities for class time. Couldn't somebody put all that together, along with reading assignments for at-home time, and package it? Science-minded ladies? Anybody want to take a crack at it? I smell a success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafiki Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 something like hands and hearts history kits that are secular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erica471 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm in totaly agreement with many posters ahead of me. More secular options! We are actually Catholic, but I prefer to keep things separate. I love the idea of SL, but I would not be comfortable using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranberry Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 better science for the younger kids. I like Harcourt 1-2 but it just doesn't go deep enough, and not enough extra activities. I would also love to see a science that allowed for the possibility of a Creator but that didn't limit it to a literal translation of the creation in 6 days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyAberlin Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yes A little History of the world would be great. I wouldn't want it to be too heavy on mythology some is fine but I don't want to spend a lot of time on it. I don't really care for a study of pre history so it would be great if it has an option to skip it. If you do the 4 yr history cycles then I would like a good dose of American history in them, but you could just make an American history supplement to go along so those that aren't american can still use the main part. I'm not a stickler for the history cycles, so Sonlight's 2 yrs world 2 yrs American would work as well. I would like American history to show the christian influence that it has upon the nation, but not overly glorifying the people to make them look like saints and could do no wrong. It would also be interesting to see the influence that other religions have had on our nation as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa in CA Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hmmm... How about... More Christian based young-earth science curriculum. More Christian based young-earth history curriculum. More Christian based young-earth vocabulary curriculum. More Christian based young-earth spelling curriculum. More Christian based young-earth math curriculum. More Christian based young-earth english curriculum. More Christian based young-earth latin curriculum. More Christian based young-earth PE curriculum. :w00t::lol: Sorry...sometimes I cannot resist the absurd! :lol: I am a Christian, AND a young-earth creationist, but even I know we are blessed with lots of choices. :D Actually, to be honest, I really like the WTM Logic Stage science suggestions! Even if one just took already written books (whether secular, Christian or a smattering of both) and packaged them in a WTM Logic stage package with all the experiments, schedule, etc., (think NOEO) I believe you'd have yourself a hit! ;) Another thing I would love to see, and it will not be popular in this thread I fear, is a Christian-based, Creationist-based History encyclopedia. Like a Christian Kingfisher! :D Yeah, I know, will probably never happen, but it would be nice to have that option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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