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I would pre-read her other books, as I think that 9.5 may be young for some of them. We have read many of her books and loved them!

 

Some were just more violent/intense than others, so I read each one first and then decided which girl could read them at which age. The most mature title of the ones I read was The Mark of the Horse Lord. They read that one at 14/16.

 

- jmo!

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My 7yo loved her Arthurian trilogy -- The Sword and the Circle, The Light Beyond the Forest, and The Road to Camlann. It doesn't shy away from Arthur's incest or the relationship between Lancelot and Guenever, but neither does it go into significant detail. Her other Arthur book, The Sword at Sunset, is more appropriately young adult/adult.

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I just clued into her books and was thinking about checking out some of them for my 9.5 year old to read. What are your experiences -- thumbs up or thumbs down?? Thanks!

 

I personally have read all that I can get my hands on. My kids have read and enjoyed the Aurthurian trilogy, Black Ships before Troy and Wanderings of Oddyseus. I think that her books like Eagle of the Ninth and Outcast are great books, but are hard read alouds.

 

I would not give the book about Queen Boudica to a young reader. Boudica was abused by Romans and took a calculating revenge out later. It is not described graphically, but it is referred to and is a turning point in the story. Similarly, Tristain and Iseult is very well written, but is still the story of a love triangle and betrayal.

 

It is also worth remembering that her books are usually set in either a war or the chaos of a disintegrating culture (the fall of Roman Britain or the rise and fall of Arthur's court). You can't really stay sunny in the face of that setting.

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We have Black Ships Before Troy and The Wanderings of Odysseus. I used them this year for literature for my 3rd and 5th graders. Two thumbs up!

 

These two books are great.

 

We then tried reading the next book in her sequence of historical fiction books, Flowers for Adonis, and my son found it boring. However, this may just be him. I am discovering that although he loves to read about history, he is not overly fond of historical fiction.

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She is quite high up on our list - We've read most that are mentioned - her Arthurian trilogy I didn't have time to read to 9 yo ds,but we did Beowulf, and the Black Ships before Troy and Wanderings of Odysseus. I just finished the Arthur books - I hold her in high regard as an author....

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The books by Sutclif which have been mentioned thus far are not the ones my boys liked. We fell for all of her books set in Roman Britain ! (I had read them as a child.) They may even be out-of-print by now, and available only by scouring the used market. When our family started hs'ing, fifteen years ago, all of these were sold in the standard chain bookstores. Not any more. :smash:

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The books by Sutclif which have been mentioned thus far are not the ones my boys liked. We fell for all of her books set in Roman Britain ! (I had read them as a child.) They may even be out-of-print by now, and available only by scouring the used market. When our family started hs'ing, fifteen years ago, all of these were sold in the standard chain bookstores. Not any more. :smash:

 

Are you thinking about Frontier Wolf, The Shield Ring, and The Lantern Bearers? And Knight's Fee? Not Roman Britain, though. The Lantern Bearers is one of a set of three that are not necessarily a trilogy, but fit together. The other two are The Eagle of the Ninth and The Silver Branch. These are for older readers, and have recently been reissued with somber covers (!). I, too, have been reading everything by her that I can get my hands on. We love her books. I found the Eagle to be difficult as a read aloud for the first chapter or so, but then fell into a rhythm. Her language is much more rich and complex than what many middle school aged children are used to hearing or reading.

 

Sutcliff was homeschooled, because of a disease. (Her mother read aloud to her, all the great old stories.) She was originally trained as a landscape artist (I think), but over time, because of her illness, lost the use of her fine motor skills. Her attention to detail in her descriptive passages reflects her training, imho. I adore her.

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Sorry ! I was under attack by a playful beagle at the time of typing, so erred. Eagle of the Ninth definitely is Roman Britain, though.

 

Who has reissued them? Some of ours have disintegrated from use.

 

My boys read her books when they were in the 10-11 age span. I don't know how to gauge "reading level"; I just let them read what they like. In general, my kids are "warped" toward a lot of the older British children's literature, because that is what I instinctively chose myself as a child. (I'm nearly 54.)

 

Antonia

 

Are you thinking about Frontier Wolf, The Shield Ring, and The Lantern Bearers? And Knight's Fee? Not Roman Britain, though. The Lantern Bearers is one of a set of three that are not necessarily a trilogy, but fit together. The other two are The Eagle of the Ninth and The Silver Branch. These are for older readers, and have recently been reissued with somber covers (!). I, too, have been reading everything by her that I can get my hands on. We love her books. I found the Eagle to be difficult as a read aloud for the first chapter or so, but then fell into a rhythm. Her language is much more rich and complex than what many middle school aged children are used to hearing or reading.

 

Sutcliff was homeschooled, because of a disease. (Her mother read aloud to her, all the great old stories.) She was originally trained as a landscape artist (I think), but over time, because of her illness, lost the use of her fine motor skills. Her attention to detail in her descriptive passages reflects her training, imho. I adore her.

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Sorry ! I was under attack by a playful beagle at the time of typing, so erred. Eagle of the Ninth definitely is Roman Britain, though.

 

Who has reissued them? Some of ours have disintegrated from use.

 

My boys read her books when they were in the 10-11 age span. I don't know how to gauge "reading level"; I just let them read what they like. In general, my kids are "warped" toward a lot of the older British children's literature, because that is what I instinctively chose myself as a child. (I'm nearly 54.)

 

Antonia

 

A publisher called Front Street. You can see them here:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Frontier-Wolf-Rosemary-Sutcliff/dp/1590785940/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241052213&sr=8-1

 

(I really need to learn how to embed my links!)

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Also, for you folks who enjoy Rosemary Sutcliff, you might also enjoy Geoffrey Trease. He was writing historical fiction in the 50s - ish, and wrote a great Shakespearean novel (among many others) called Cue for Treason. (The, um, how shall we say... "source material" for the recent Shakespeare Stealer.) I don't love him like I love Rosemary, but his books are quite good.

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I had seen that one! What was her illness? I remember reading the name and thinking, ah, well, I am not a health care professional, so I need a translation.

 

Well, she had Still's Disease. Her appearance is a rather typical one for severely debilitating illnesses of childhood. If you look in wikipedia, it says her mother read to her a great deal as an ill child, especially myths. Her books just go to show you how much our brain is our human-ness. Good for her, I say!

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Caraway, I don't have an answer for you, but wanted to comment on the books below.

My son (4.7) loves Black Ships Before Troy and The Wanderings of Odysseus as read alouds (the Alan Lee illustrated versions). We're just finishing another go-round.

 

Top notch!

We have BSBT and it is both wonderfully written and illustrated. Top ntch, I agree. I will not read them to DD7 or let her read them however. They are very violent and very morbid. YMMV, but I am thinking it will be a long while before my DD is ready for it.
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