Help starting CW for older beginners!!!!

[5Youngs]

I have been reading over the teachers guide, aesop sore and student workbook for older beginners for two and a half weeks.

We've started the grammar, completed the preparation week.

I am completely confused as to WHAT we are supposed to be doing each day!

By the time I look in all three books to figure out what/where/how to do each skill, I am so confused that we end up taking a break and not coming back to it.

I consider myself a bright person, but I'm on the verge of listing it for sale!

Could someone PLEASE walk me through this?

Harvey's Grammar- check. I get it, it's easy.

Analysis and Imitation- I get the reading and narration. Then there's the outline. Is it an I. II. III. outline, like I learned in school, or is it another type that was covered in the original Aesop core? Are all of these steps done on the workbook pages, and then the vocab, copywork and grammar are written in their separate notebooks?

That is a LOT of different steps for such a childish story(The Fox and the Crow)~:001_huh:

Are we just going through all of these steps to prepare us for the harder stories/selections to come?

I am not into busywork, and I just want someone to tell me that I am doing all of this for a perfectly good reason.

I've been to the CW website, and I seem to be the only one having this issue~:confused:

[elegantlion]

We won't start Homer until fall but I'm there with you on the flipping through the books. I'm a visual person and I ended up buying an extra student workbook for myself. As someone just mentioned in another CW thread if I look at the student book it makes more sense. I don't want to be grabbing ds' book all year.

 

The one thing I wish CW would do is put the core pages needed for the day in the Instructor's Guide. They are listed in the student book.

 

We just started poetry and I wrote the needed core pages in the IG and refer to those pages daily. It has been most helpful. It makes more sense to do it that way. I'm hoping Homer will go as easily.

[Beth in SW WA]

For Homer OB, I outlined the Homer Core for myself. Get your brain around each skill level.

 

Then, start with week one. Yes, it is an easy fable. BUT the skills begin to build. You will soon be doing the six-sentence shuffle and your student needs to be comfortable w/ the preceding steps.

 

I hope this helps. I'm a CW rookie as of Jan 1. Other CW vets here are much more able to give advice.

 

Hang in there!!

[Alana in Canada]

I am working through Homer, only, not Hommer for older beginners, so keep that in mind.

 

Immensely helpful to me was a chart at the back of the Homer core which lists a "Sample Schedule"--there's one for younger kids (40 weeks) and one for olders (20 weeks)

 

So, forexample, it will say

Model: Wind and Sun

Writing Project: WP 1 Six questions

A&E Day 1: SL Lesson 1 and 2

A&E Day 2: SL 1 Routine

A&E Day 3: SL 1, Lesson 1, 2, and 3.

A&I Day 4: SL Routine

 

So, I photocopied it and started looking everything up (mostly in the table of Contents as I've read the Core a few times):

 

I flagged where the writing project discusses how to do the six questions.

 

Day 1 simply means:

Read the Narritive, Go through the basic questions.

Day 2:

Dictation

and so on.

 

As for outlining, Follow the instructions in the core. To my way of thinking, (and I may be wrong) outlines exist to help you reconstruct the material. There is no right or wrong. I told my son to find two or three key words per sentence. We'll see today when he goes to write it whether he has done it "correctly."

[Sumiller]

Analysis and Imitation- I get the reading and narration. Then there's the outline. Is it an I. II. III. outline, like I learned in school, or is it another type that was covered in the original Aesop core?

 

Having just received CW for older beginners today, I don't have the answers regarding the how's and why's of the program. I can, however, point you to the website in order to clarify the outline process. If you go to the website, click on Aesop then click on 'What you need to buy'. The first thing listed is the Aesop core book. In the description box of the Aesop core book is a link to the 'preview sample pages'. The sample pages contain 22pps. The 21st sample page gives a great description of how to outline. It is very similar to IEW's key word outline. :)

 

I hope this helps!

[HiddenJewel]

The easiest way is to have the Older Beginner Student Workbook as the center focus. Follow the lessons for each day. Each lesson tells you what to read from the core manual. The core manual is very detailed and should give you all the teaching information you need to complete the workbook lesson. Think of the Homer core as your reference book.

 

Dd13 is on week 18 of the OB Workbook. Dd12 has just started Homer A.

 

My favorite part is the six-sentence shuffle!

Edited March 27, 2009 by HiddenJewel

[HiddenJewel]

Having just received CW for older beginners today, I don't have the answers regarding the how's and why's of the program. I can, however, point you to the website in order to clarify the outline process. If you go to the website, click on Aesop then click on 'What you need to buy'. The first thing listed is the Aesop core book. In the description box of the Aesop core book is a link to the 'preview sample pages'. The sample pages contain 22pps. The 21st sample page gives a great description of how to outline. It is very similar to IEW's key word outline. :)

 

I hope this helps!

 

The Aesop-type outlining is only used at the very beginning of OB. The majority of it uses Theon's six components in the outlines and that is very different from the KWO.