What level Saxon after Singapore 6B?

[always cookin']

Has anyone gone from Singapore 6B to Saxon? Which level did you start with? Thanks.

[JudoMom]

I'd start with the Saxon placement tests.

[Hillary in KS]

Well, we went from Singapore 6B to Saxon's Algebra 1.

 

There haven't been any issues, other than learning to deal with Saxon's general wordiness. :) We did play with NEM 1 (SIL recommended we try it), but after a month and a half with it, we went back to Saxon. Ds prefers Saxon to NEM.

 

I have heard of other families who've got to Algebra 1/2 from Singapore, as well.

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Bumping this old thread as I am wondering as well! MFW says 8/7 after 6th grade and at least finishing 5B preferably to 6B. This a few years behind Verita Press's Saxon recs fot 7th. :confused: Would love some feed back so I can make sure my boys are on track in the elementary years. Thank you!

[AngieW in Texas]

I would say none. If Singapore has worked for your kids then Saxon will be a nightmare. If Singapore hasn't worked well for your kids, then you might as well try Saxon.

 

As far as levels go, you should definitely do the placement test. I would guess that most kids who have finished 6b would place into Saxon Algebra.

 

I would recommend going from Singapore 6b to Kinetic Books pre-algebra or Algebra I. Kids who did will with 6a/6b could go straight to Algebra I. Kids who struggled in 6a/6b should start with pre-algebra.

[cbollin]

Bumping this old thread as I am wondering as well! MFW says 8/7 after 6th grade and at least finishing 5B preferably to 6B. This a few years behind Verita Press's Saxon recs fot 7th. :confused: Would love some feed back so I can make sure my boys are on track in the elementary years. Thank you!

 

I don't know Vertias's scope. sorry..

 

This is my experience..... My oldest did through Singapore 6B by near end of 6th grade. She took the Saxon Placement test and tested in Algebra I at age 12.

 

My dh and I had a feeling that the amount of work in Algebra I was not going to be right for our soon to be 7th grader. Part of the reason we switch to Saxon in jr. high is for more textbook feel and independent learning and all of that. She wasn't age wise ready for the workload jump in spite of being a very smart math gal.

 

so, at first we dropped back to Alg 1/2. We quickly realized that the amount of work in that book was not suited for her age/abilities even with testing into Alg I.

 

So, I decided to go back a step further and do Saxon 8/7 prealgebra edition. We loved that decision. It still kept her on a very strong math path. (Alg. I in 8th, jacobs Geometry in 9th, Alg II next year in 10th, ADV, and possibly to Calculus before end of high school.) So doing 87 in 7th is still a very strong math path. Still have time for Calculus in 12th grade that way.

 

There was no need to rush her into Algebra and deal with high school years for math in 12th grade, yada yada yada...

 

We found that by going from Singapore to Saxon in 7th and using 8/7, it helped my daughter to learn to work from Saxon more independently with DIVE CD, to do math longer each day, and learn about test taking strategies. Also, it helped in 8/7 that the gaps from changing from one scope and sequence to another company was seamless and smooth..... no nightmares over here.

 

So, I have to say that even though I reached the same conclusion as MFW on the path from a very different route that they did, I'm glad they say the same thing I do on it.

 

So, the other side of it.... if one follows MFW's recommendation about getting to at minimum Singapore 5B by end of 6th grade, and going in Saxon 87, well, I'll have more personal experience on that in a few short months when my 2nd daughter does just that. But from my oldest child's experiences with the content in 6A and 6B not really being new material, but more challenging word problems, I am not worried about going from 5B into 87.

 

so that's my story thus far with my 2 daughters. Daughter #1 is super math whiz kid. Daughter #2 is slow to average child. But slow and steady in Singapore from 1A until 5B (2nd grade to today!), and I think she's going to do fine in Saxon 87 next year with DIVE and all of it.

 

-crystal

[cbollin]

adding a bit more to my previous post....

 

I did the Saxon placement test with my middle child who is finishing Singapore 5B in 6th grade. She placed conclusively into 8/7 not 7/6.

 

 

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2nd thought... looks like Veritas's sequence with Saxon is a very rigorous path. I think students who are one year behind their path with it will still be on an advanced path and not behind at all. They seem to super size it a bit with very rigorous path in the years they use Saxon.

 

-crystal

Edited June 2, 2011 by cbollin

[cbollin]

nm........ :)

Edited June 2, 2011 by cbollin
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[Mom0012]

Bumping this old thread as I am wondering as well! MFW says 8/7 after 6th grade and at least finishing 5B preferably to 6B. This a few years behind Verita Press's Saxon recs fot 7th. :confused: Would love some feed back so I can make sure my boys are on track in the elementary years. Thank you!

 

I am planning on switching my daughter from CLE to Saxon once she is ready for Saxon Alg 1/2. I am actually going to have to work at stretching math out for her because she just zips through it.

 

I received my VP catalog yesterday and was surprised to see they have scheduled Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Geometry in 2nd. That's fairly aggressive, I think. I know a lot of kids are now doing Algebra in 8th, but many are still doing it in 9th.

 

One thing I notice about VP is that they start very early with some really heavy academics, but then they have little to offer or suggest for the last couple of years of high school. I always wonder why they don't just move their Omnibus and math programs up a year or 2 and then they would have a full program for high school. I was also noticing that it doesn't seem like they have recommended any science for the elementary years (unless I missed something)? But, I guess that's kind of off track. I do love looking at their catalog, though!

 

Lisa

[LittleIzumi]

am I the only one wondering why he is speaking in 3rd person about himself? :confused:

-crystal

 

Because he says he's not himself, as if he really was Art Reed, he was banned previously & would be banned again, I imagine. ;) (Or so I learned from previous threads this week.)

[mjbucks1]

I just have a question out of curiosity. We have used Saxon from Saxon1-Alg II so far. I hear so many good things about Singapore that it has made me question my decision to use Saxon (although we started hsing when Singapore was still fairly new). My question is.....why do people switch after Primary Math 5 or 6? Is it that you want a more traditional sequence? Is it less teacher intensive? It will "fit" better on a transcript for college?

I don't mean to highjack this thread :tongue_smilie:. I was just curious as I still have a little one (3 years old) that I will be hsing, and I have considered switching to Singapore for him (but of course I have all the Saxon books, and they have worked well for the two older children. But I do like the concepts behind Singapore).

 

I will say that as far as the VP sequence goes, they statrt with Saxon 1 in K (which is what I did with both ds and dd). This means that a child would be ready for Alg I in 7th (if they have not encountered any difficulties). My ds did Alg I in 7th. I will see how dd does in 6th and determine if she is ready for Alg in 7th.

[cbollin]

Because he says he's not himself, as if he really was Art Reed, he was banned previously & would be banned again, I imagine. ;) (Or so I learned from previous threads this week.)

 

Oh, okay.

the user name on this thread matches his website's url name. but the username is not him. oh. Wow... that could get real confusing. real fast. ;)

 

I'm just going to go drink some water now and get sunscreen and get ready for going the swimming pool this afternoon with the children.

 

-crystal

[cbollin]

I just have a question out of curiosity. We have used Saxon from Saxon1-Alg II so far. I hear so many good things about Singapore that it has made me question my decision to use Saxon (although we started hsing when Singapore was still fairly new). My question is.....why do people switch after Primary Math 5 or 6? Is it that you want a more traditional sequence? Is it less teacher intensive?

 

those describe my reasons close enough. I liken it to stages of learning. Singapore fit better in my philosophy of stages of learning for about grade 2-6. then, Saxon for more traditional route and all of that. And I was not sure which Singapore to use after the Primary series. and thought, why not try Saxon since I was happy with its record.

 

back to swim time! -crystal:auto:

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[mjbucks1]

Thanks, Crystal! Enjoy the sun!!!

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Thank you very much AngieW in Texas, Lisa Theresa, and mjbucks1!! :grouphug:

 

I don't know Vertias's scope. sorry..

 

This is my experience..... My oldest did through Singapore 6B by near end of 6th grade. She took the Saxon Placement test and tested in Algebra I at age 12.

 

My dh and I had a feeling that the amount of work in Algebra I was not going to be right for our soon to be 7th grader. Part of the reason we switch to Saxon in jr. high is for more textbook feel and independent learning and all of that. She wasn't age wise ready for the workload jump in spite of being a very smart math gal.

 

so, at first we dropped back to Alg 1/2. We quickly realized that the amount of work in that book was not suited for her age/abilities even with testing into Alg I.

 

So, I decided to go back a step further and do Saxon 8/7 prealgebra edition. We loved that decision. It still kept her on a very strong math path. (Alg. I in 8th, jacobs Geometry in 9th, Alg II next year in 10th, ADV, and possibly to Calculus before end of high school.) So doing 87 in 7th is still a very strong math path. Still have time for Calculus in 12th grade that way.

 

There was no need to rush her into Algebra and deal with high school years for math in 12th grade, yada yada yada...

 

We found that by going from Singapore to Saxon in 7th and using 8/7, it helped my daughter to learn to work from Saxon more independently with DIVE CD, to do math longer each day, and learn about test taking strategies. Also, it helped in 8/7 that the gaps from changing from one scope and sequence to another company was seamless and smooth..... no nightmares over here.

 

So, I have to say that even though I reached the same conclusion as MFW on the path from a very different route that they did, I'm glad they say the same thing I do on it.

 

So, the other side of it.... if one follows MFW's recommendation about getting to at minimum Singapore 5B by end of 6th grade, and going in Saxon 87, well, I'll have more personal experience on that in a few short months when my 2nd daughter does just that. But from my oldest child's experiences with the content in 6A and 6B not really being new material, but more challenging word problems, I am not worried about going from 5B into 87.

 

so that's my story thus far with my 2 daughters. Daughter #1 is super math whiz kid. Daughter #2 is slow to average child. But slow and steady in Singapore from 1A until 5B (2nd grade to today!), and I think she's going to do fine in Saxon 87 next year with DIVE and all of it.

 

-crystal

 

Thank you Crystal for weighing in with your experience, esp. with MFW recs. What a blessing! :grouphug::grouphug:

Edited June 2, 2011 by JENinOR

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Btw, it appears SM is more than adequate prep for Saxon higher math, but I do need to figure out where we want our boys at grade 12, as I do know some finish 6B before 6th as well. So much researching and descision making.