Angel Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Is it typically begun in 2nd grade these days? I was thinking 3rd. I believe that's when older dd began in her Christian school. What do you do if your math curriculum begins multiplication and you would really like your dc to have their addition/subtraction facts down a little better? For what it's worth, we are using Saxon 2 with dd8. She likes Saxon and is doing well, I just would like a little better mastery of add/sub before moving on. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I have seen it started everywhere first to third, but typically the facts are it is mastered by te end of third. I wouldn't start it until after addition and subtraction with carrying and borrowing are fully mastered and understood. That is not counting skip-counting as a form of multiplication learning, of course ;) 'cause that would change the whole time-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reya Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I think Singapore intro'd the CONCEPT in 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchel210 Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Abeka starts grouping that leads into multiplication in 1st and full multiplication in 2nd. 3rd starts with review of multiplication as it was taught already. Our PS doesnt do it till 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loupelou Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Horizons introduces it in 2nd grade. By then they expect the student to be adding and subtracting to the hundreds with carrying. If she doesn't have her facts down really well, flashcard games work well. Also, my daughter really enjoys using an abacus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngieW in Texas Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Miquon and Singapore introduce it in 1st grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacy in NJ Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 A typical ps sequence introduces it conceptually at the middle/end of 2nd grade, and some easy facts like two's and 5's may be introduced. In 3rd grade a great deal of time is typically devoted to mutliplication/division facts and 2 and 3 digit problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieZ Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I use Miquon & Singapore. We teach the concept of multiplication in 1st grade. During 2nd/3rd grade they master the multiplaction facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swellmomma Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 The big kids are in grade 4 and 5 and just started multiplication this year, but that is because we use MUS and it took until this year to get to Gamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrina Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 We are using Saxon 2 and just started the 10's 0s and 1s for multiplication, probably right where you are. DD was doing pretty well with her adding/subtracting but was getting suck on a few of the subtraction facts they do- the subtracting using double plus one facts for example. We took a few weeks, put Saxon lessons on hold, and focused on her trouble spots before moving on. I copied the fact worksheets of her problem areas and we went over one each day, talking and working them out- she just wasn't wrapping her brain around the way they introduced them or something. I re-taught them a few times using a different trick/method/wording each time and one day it just clicked and then we moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Is it typically begun in 2nd grade these days? I was thinking 3rd. I believe that's when older dd began in her Christian school. What do you do if your math curriculum begins multiplication and you would really like your dc to have their addition/subtraction facts down a little better? For what it's worth, we are using Saxon 2 with dd8. She likes Saxon and is doing well, I just would like a little better mastery of add/sub before moving on. Thanks. This is kind of along the same lines... I bought a multiplication song CD and that really helped. We listen to it in the car and they are very easy to remember because they are set to music. My five year old knows many of them already. Now, of course, he doesn't know what they mean, but he already has them stored in his brain for when the times comes. Just an idea for extra help.:001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks for your replies. They are appreciated. I take more of a slow & steady approach and prefer mastery. I prefer Rod & Staff but dd was struggling with it and we switched over to Saxon. I'm still struggling with a sprial approach:glare: I was able to talk with my cousin who teaches 2nd in p.s. Their curriculum is very similar to Saxon. She said they that teach the concept of multiplication but not the facts. She told me to most definitely have dd master those add/sub facts and that will make multiplication much easier for her next year. Thanks for your help. It always amazes me at how different each curriculum really can be!! ETA: A Multiplication CD might be a good thing for the summer, just to get it in her brain...thanks for the idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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