What to use after Galore Park Latin?

[Susan in SoCal]

My oldest son will soon be completing So You Really Want to Learn Latin 3. Which is great. And which is not so great, as it creates a small problem: Where to go, what to use now?

 

I know Galore Park claims that the LP thru SYRWTLL3 progression prepares a student for going on to read real Latin works. [at the risk of sounding like a total nincompoop...] What does this translate to in terms of curriculum?

 

I do have some texts on hand:

Henle 1, 2, and 3

oop texts: Latin Book Two & Using Latin 3

Lingua Latina Familia Romana

 

Over the next couple months I'll start looking thru these texts to try to get a feel for them and where my son might be able to jump in.

 

But before I do that ... can anyone who's already been there done that or is familiar with "reading real works Latin" chime in with wisdom regarding the choices available, possible paths, etc. I'm feeling a wee bit broad-sided, as I was sure SYRWTLL would take the rest of the year to complete, and it most definitely will not.

 

Thanks!

[Laura Corin]

I plan for Calvin to do an online course with Cambridge Latin. This GCSE course includes culture and reading of original texts. The GCSE exam is usually taken at age 16, but the course should stand up well even if you don't take the exam. Before we start, I plan on catching up on the vocab in the Cambridge course, using their online activities.

 

Best wishes to you as you blaze the trail.

 

Laura

[Dee in MI]

Don't have SYRWLL, but I do have Henle and Using Latin One and Two, which is a different edition of Latin Book One and Latin Book Two.

 

Almost all of the Latin grammar is taught in Henle One. There is some in Henle Two that is not covered in Henle One, but most of Henle Two and on is developing reading. So if you go the Henle route, I'd pick up One for review, but plan to do from Two on.

 

Using Latin One covers a different subset of the grammar than Henle One. And I think it covers less grammar in the first year. But the reading selections are much longer. The second year of Using Latin completes the grammar and gets into much longer and much meatier reading selections. The third year and fourth years of Using Latin are identical to Latin Book Three and Latin Book Four, and are entirely reading. (From what I've heard. I don't own them.)

 

I am supplementing Henle with Using Latin. I'm nearly through chapter eight in Henle One, and I've read the first half of Using Latin One in the last few weeks. Using Latin is a book that you can just sit and read.

 

Latin Book One is free on-line. It's copyright free, and it has been transcribed by members of a yahoo group. It's here:

 

Latin Book One Yahoo group

[latinteach]

My oldest son will soon be completing So You Really Want to Learn Latin 3. Which is great. And which is not so great, as it creates a small problem: Where to go, what to use now?

 

I know Galore Park claims that the LP thru SYRWTLL3 progression prepares a student for going on to read real Latin works. [at the risk of sounding like a total nincompoop...] What does this translate to in terms of curriculum?

 

I do have some texts on hand:

Henle 1, 2, and 3

oop texts: Latin Book Two & Using Latin 3

Lingua Latina Familia Romana

 

 

SYRWTL suggests (on page 100, Chapter 10) starting with Caesar's Gallic Wars and this is a traditional text to read after finishing a grammar-translation textbook. Henle 2 and Latin Book Two both include selections from Caesar's Gallic Wars. Other prose authors mentioned on page 100 include Cicero, Livy, Tacitus and Pliny. Henle 2 and Latin Book Two also likely include some selections from Livy. Tacitus is quite difficult. Traditionally, Cicero has followed Caesar. You will find selections from Cicero in Henle 3 and Henle 4. Using Latin 3 should also include some Cicero. The nice thing about these textbooks is that they generally have notes to help you. You can also find original Latin authors here: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com

 

But before I do that ... can anyone who's already been there done that or is familiar with "reading real works Latin" chime in with wisdom regarding the choices available, possible paths, etc. I'm feeling a wee bit broad-sided, as I was sure SYRWTLL would take the rest of the year to complete, and it most definitely will not.

There are short Latin passages in SYRWTLL, adapted from Caesar and Cicero. Did he comprehend those well?

 

You might consider reading this:

The Art of Reading Latin Written by a 19th century Latin professor, he explains how to develop reading fluency.

 

Rules for Reading Latin Scroll down the entire page and you'll find the downloadable handout listed at the end.

 

In the past, when there were 2 AP Latin exams, students would often read Ovid, Horace, Catullus (poetry) and Cicero (prose) in the third year of Latin and Vergil in the fourth year. The AP Latin Literature (Ovid, Horace, Catullus and Cicero) exam is being discontinued. Now there is just one AP Latin capstone exam, the AP Latin Vergil exam.

 

If you wanted to do so, you might consider working quickly through the Lingua Latina Familia Romana book followed by its sequel the Roma Aeterna book, which includes a lot of the authors mentioned.

Edited February 11, 2009 by latinteach

[Susan in SoCal]

Thank you, All.

 

Your feedback is very helpful. It sounds as if we're good to go for a combo of Henle 2 and LB2 (he completed LBO a couple years ago and then we jumped into Latin Prep 2.) I think we might also continue with some Lingua Latina for good measure.

 

Latinteach - ds is fairly comfortable with the readings, only occasionally checking the glossary for unfamiliar vocabulary (LP1-3 doesn't totally cover all the vocabulary assumed known for SYR3). I will check out both those links you provided. Thank you.

 

It's a shame Latin Lit AP test is being discontinued. I would certainly think 3 high school years of Latin is worthy of AP testing. :glare:

[latinteach]

It's a shame Latin Lit AP test is being discontinued. I would certainly think 3 high school years of Latin is worthy of AP testing. :glare:

 

Apparently, the College Board is moving toward one capstone examination per language. College Latin professors are apparently working to determine if the AP Vergil exam will include any other authors. For those who want to take two exams, there's still the SAT Subject Exam in Latin as well as AP Vergil. Some university Latin departments will also give their own placement exam to students.