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starting at your teeth, run tongue backwards and you get to those ridges, then a dip, then a hump, right?

 

Anyone NOT have it? Anyone's kids not have it? Were there speech issues at some time?

 

When we went to the dentist, we found out that ds doesn't have this hump. I really think it makes a difference with his speech.

 

However, if it were a factor, you'd think SOME doctor, dentist, or speech therapist would have caught it, right?

 

Any idea?

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starting at your teeth, run tongue backwards and you get to those ridges, then a dip, then a hump, right?

 

Anyone NOT have it? Anyone's kids not have it? Were there speech issues at some time?

 

When we went to the dentist, we found out that ds doesn't have this hump. I really think it makes a difference with his speech.

 

However, if it were a factor, you'd think SOME doctor, dentist, or speech therapist would have caught it, right?

 

Any idea?

 

I'm curious, did you breastfeed him? Somewhere along the way I read that bf'ing develops the upper palatte better than bottle feeding.

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OhGrandma, Actually, I bottlefed him breastmilk because between his oral motor issues and my hyperlactation, he was drowning and the whole apartment (at the time) smelled of breastmilk! We got it EVERYWHERE, so I pumped and fed it to him.

 

Chucki, I thought EVERYONE had one!

 

Well, I guess this kinda answers my question though...maybe plenty of people don't so it doesn't matter as much as I was guessing. Maybe ONE day the speech will remediate further. We keep trying but he's been working on these two sounds for years <sigh> and has a few others that don't work well in combination.

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Lisa, my ds lost his spot at the speech place when he got sick for 3 weeks followed by me getting sick for two. They have an attendance policy we just didn't meet. This just happened recently. He made some progress and some of his lack of progress is his hard-headedness, I'm sure. But though I'm encouraging him to practice and slow down to speech well and such, I'm not sure that he can ever be 100% since he's almost 14yrs old.

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I don't have one... neither do my kids (I would guess my parents don't either from this), but my dh and his family does.

 

When dh was in the hospital and was intubated, the doctor noticed his mouth hump thing. The MD commented then that having that hump was less common than not having it--so I would guess that is not what is affecting your ds's speech.

 

This it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus_palatinus

 

According to this article, the prevalence is 25--30% of the population. Be interesting to know if it is a dominant trait...

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If I'm understanding what you're describing correctly, I don't have the hump either. Incidentally, my mom did not breastfeed me past 5 weeks because she got sick. I've never had any speech problems, unless you count the New Jersey schools wanting to put me in speech therapy for my Texas accent when I was 7.:D

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I have no input here other than the correct way to spell palate is palate.:D

Sorry, but I am a spelling freak especially when it comes to anatomy.

A pallet is a wood structure that you carry around with a forklift. I'm not sure what a pallete is but it sounds french.:lol:

 

In Greenville, SC, downtown, there is (or was?) a restaurant named "The Sophisticated Palate." Hanging on the wall next the the front door, kinda off to the side, is a wooden pallet that they use to put out the trash. It's labeled "The Sophisticated Pallet."

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Pam, I'm a speech therapist and I don't really know what this is. I am a little rusty, I admit, with names of obscure oral anatomy, but I don't recall this being any major sort of issue unless we're talking about cleft palate. Are you talking about the palatal arch (The concave part of the hard palate)? Some kids have a more flattened arch but this is usually seen in conjunction with other anatomical problems. The only speech issues the lack of this "hump" may cause that I can think of is maybe some change in oral voice resonance but I don't think that would be abnormal. Or maybe it could cause an issue with sounds made in the back of the mouth like K & G, maybe. People with normal oral motor skills would probably compensate easily for this missing "hump".

 

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Actually, I bottlefed him breastmilk because between his oral motor issues and my hyperlactation, he was drowning and the whole apartment (at the time) smelled of breastmilk! We got it EVERYWHERE, so I pumped and fed it to him.

 

What kind of oral motor issues are you talking about? If his mouth is unusual AND he has oral motor issues then maybe, (but I don't think it's likely) there could be a contributing factor.

 

Also, seems like dentists tend to notice mouth things that doctors & even speech therapists don't take as much notice. I've noticed that with a dentist friend of mine.

 

Here is a good picture of the mouth with the major structures labeled.

http://www.doctorspiller.com/oral%20anatomy.htm

My basic anatomy & Physiology study of the visible structure of the mouth was pretty much what you see here. I don't see anything labeled here that fits your description.

 

All this to say, I don't think this is something to worry about having been missed, or affected your son's speech. I'm sorry he's still struggling at 14 though!

 

HTH

Jacqui

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In Greenville, SC, downtown, there is (or was?) a restaurant named "The Sophisticated Palate." Hanging on the wall next the the front door, kinda off to the side, is a wooden pallet that they use to put out the trash. It's labeled "The Sophisticated Pallet."

 

THAT is really droll!

Jacqui

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Ditto for me too! I don't think I've ever looked at the inside top of my kids' mouths. :)

 

 

I have the ridges and then a dip to an arch--no flat. But the arch is a bit like the McDonald's arches in that there is a centre ridge for the first part of the arch that ends as it comes down before the soft palate. That ridge is flat for a while.

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I don't have a hump either, but I did have speech issues when I was younger. My problem wasn't at the top of my mouth, though, it was under my tongue. I was tongue tied (had too much membrane under my tongue that it did not allow my tongue to move freely enough to pronounce some sounds). Unfortunately, it took over three years of being pulled out of class for speech therapy until a new therapist thought to look under my tongue. I had a simple procedure done to cut the membrane and suddenly I could talk normally. You don't mention what type of issues your son has, but mine were saying the sounds of j, l, sh and some others that I don't remember.

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