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19 minutes ago, stephanier.1765 said:

Ask how it happened. Was it a child before you guys and maybe your father didn't know. Did you mother put a child up for adoption? Did your father have an affair? Is it a full or half sibling? I'd have so many questions. LOL

Oh I already have all those answers from the searching my sister and I  did this morning.  
 

My sister and I share a father not a mother so this is definitely our fathers child. She was born one month before my sister. Our father was married to my known sisters mother and new found sister’s mom was married as well.  

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Just now, Scarlett said:

Oh I already have all those answers from the searching my sister and I  this morning.  
 

My sister and I share a father not a mother so this is definitely our fathers child. She was born one month before my sister. Our father was married to my known sisters mother and new found sister’s mom was married as well.  

Does this mean somewhere out there there’s a man believing his adult daughter is his bio child, when she’s not?

I wonder what the etiquette is for investigating this kind of stuff. I mean, you can figure things out from dates but getting the backstory and introductions are definitely next level. 

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Just now, Grace Hopper said:

Does this mean somewhere out there there’s a man believing his adult daughter is his bio child, when she’s not?

I wonder what the etiquette is for investigating this kind of stuff. I mean, you can figure things out from dates but getting the backstory and introductions are definitely next level. 

I sent her a message through Ancestry about two hours ago.  Just a basic, ‘hi we are a high match do you happen to know how we are related.’  That is to get a feel for what she knows.  Her mom is still married to the man she was married to when she got pregnant by my dad.  So there is a good chance she does not know.  

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1 minute ago, Scarlett said:

I sent her a message through Ancestry about two hours ago.  Just a basic, ‘hi we are a high match do you happen to know how we are related.’  That is to get a feel for what she knows.  Her mom is still married to the man she was married to when she got pregnant by my dad.  So there is a good chance she does not know.  

I would guess that since she’s done the DNA, she knows of the non paternity event. She will have realized something is up when she didn’t match with any of her known relatives on her supposed father’s side.

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1 minute ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle Again said:

I would guess that since she’s done the DNA, she knows of the non paternity event. She will have realized something is up when she didn’t match with any of her known relatives on her supposed father’s side.

OR, her entire family got the kits for Christmas and they only looked at  ethnicity estimates and think wow that is cool and never think about it again.  My definite guess is she doesn’t know. Her mom is still alive though so that is good.  

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12 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle Again said:

I would guess that since she’s done the DNA, she knows of the non paternity event. She will have realized something is up when she didn’t match with any of her known relatives on her supposed father’s side.

I imagine her opening her results and maybe being even more stunned than Scarlet is. 

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1 hour ago, Scarlett said:

I sent her a message through Ancestry about two hours ago.  Just a basic, ‘hi we are a high match do you happen to know how we are related.’  That is to get a feel for what she knows.  Her mom is still married to the man she was married to when she got pregnant by my dad.  So there is a good chance she does not know.  

Or it’s possible her dad was infertile and they sought out someone else on purpose. 

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13 minutes ago, Katy said:

Or it’s possible her dad was infertile and they sought out someone else on purpose. 

Lol I guess anything is possible. But that seems a strange thing to try at age 20 4 months after she got married.  Plus she has a son as well.  

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wow. I did 23 and me and ended up telling my dad he had niece he didn't know about.....but they never got in contact or anything. Plus, we never figured out which of his brothers is her dad. My mom was freaking out until we explained the DNA was VERY clear that my father is not the girl's dad. The girl's mother apparrantly was doing a lot of drugs at the time and doesn't remember which brother it was!!! that was the last I heard about it. 

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49 minutes ago, Katy said:

Or it’s possible her dad was infertile and they sought out someone else on purpose. 

This actually happened in my husband’s family.  I don’t really know how the adult kids/MIL found out that they had three more siblings but apparently DH’s grandma knew all along. Grandpa was long dead at that point.

I always have half suspected it was more of an affair or open marriage and they all just agreed to publicly say that it was an arrangement due to infertility, which would have been just mildly more acceptable in their small town farm community. 
 

I haven’t really asked because it all seems weird to me.

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How exciting! I think it is great you and your sister are happy to find another sister. I hope she feels the same way.

I have not done any of these types of tests and really don't want to ever know if there is another sibling or anything out there. I would not respond if contacted. Maybe I am the only one that feels this way - LOL.

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45 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

wow. I did 23 and me and ended up telling my dad he had niece he didn't know about.....but they never got in contact or anything. Plus, we never figured out which of his brothers is her dad. My mom was freaking out until we explained the DNA was VERY clear that my father is not the girl's dad. The girl's mother apparrantly was doing a lot of drugs at the time and doesn't remember which brother it was!!! that was the last I heard about it. 

I have a match that didn’t respond to my message. It makes me sad b/c my “aunt”, who is getting up there in years, has been trying to trace her own biological connection to our family for ages, and this match shared her maiden name.  Old people eons ago just called her a cousin without detail.  
Where my match is placed doesn’t make much sense, so we’d LOVE clarification.  But it’s out of our control unless more people show up some day. 

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24 minutes ago, mlktwins said:

How exciting! I think it is great you and your sister are happy to find another sister. I hope she feels the same way.

I have not done any of these types of tests and really don't want to ever know if there is another sibling or anything out there. I would not respond if contacted. Maybe I am the only one that feels this way - LOL.

You certainly are not alone, but that just make me sad. I helped a previously unknown second cousin identity her birth father.  He was dead but he had two other living children.  So her brother was excited and talked to her and they had dinner etc.  The sister? Nope. She wanted no contact.  It broke the searching cousins heart. And mine. 

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34 minutes ago, maize said:

Have you taken a screenshots? DNA genealogy groups always recommend that when a surprise close match shows up so that you have the information saved in case the match decides to hide or delete their profile.

Yes we took screen shots but we also now know everything about her so she can delete all she wants…..lol 

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We had this happen in our family. I did 23 and Me. I laughed about, “Oh look, a long lost cousin…” It got unfunny very quickly once I realized he had to be a FIRST cousin. 
 

My aunt had given up a baby for adoption many years ago, most of the family never knew. She has looked for him to no avail. I got to meet him last year. Ours was a wonderful story and ironically, out of about thirty first cousins, I’d say he bears the strongest family resemblance. ♥️ 

i hope you have the same wonderful turnout. 

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2 hours ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle Again said:

This actually happened in my husband’s family.  I don’t really know how the adult kids/MIL found out that they had three more siblings but apparently DH’s grandma knew all along. Grandpa was long dead at that point.

I always have half suspected it was more of an affair or open marriage and they all just agreed to publicly say that it was an arrangement due to infertility, which would have been just mildly more acceptable in their small town farm community. 
 

I haven’t really asked because it all seems weird to me.

Yeah, my mom tells this story of a thank you card my dad received two weeks before my parents married, apparently literally an infertility arrangement. I keep waiting for this sibling to pop up somewhere, but so far nothing. 

1 hour ago, Scarlett said:

This is a little harder on my sister than me..she was raised by our father who really looked down on cheaters……yet he was out cheating on his wife with a married woman……

I’m sorry. 

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2 hours ago, maize said:

Have you taken screenshots? DNA genealogy groups always recommend that when a surprise close match shows up so that you have the information saved in case the match decides to hide or delete their profile.

It’s good that you can take the screenshot and have the information. It’s also good that the person can delete or go private. That’s a clear no contact signal and nobody has to guess about whether or not they should pursue further.  

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1 hour ago, DawnM said:

I am waiting for more to show up on my DNA!   They pop up randomly, but so far I have only gotten one new kid out of the deal! 🤣   Watch out!

Wait!  How many have you found besides the birth mom of Andrew? 

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7 minutes ago, KungFuPanda said:

It’s good that you can take the screenshot and have the information. It’s also good that the person can delete or go private. That’s a clear no contact signal and nobody has to guess about whether or not they should pursue further.  

Well it isn’t just about pursuing contact. Sometimes you need those trees to solve big genealogical mysteries.  
 

In this case there is literally no mystery.  The match is such there is no other possibility.   

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11 minutes ago, KungFuPanda said:

It’s good that you can take the screenshot and have the information. It’s also good that the person can delete or go private. That’s a clear no contact signal and nobody has to guess about whether or not they should pursue further.  

Dd had a cousin match that went private very fast. It was uncomfortable b/c it’s known that a grandfather was… gone a lot. And there’s been rumors of someone even closer floating around, but this was wrong gender for that rumor.   
None of us cares to hunt anyone down, but I would have worked on the puzzle for my own private curiosity if we had thought to screenshot it.

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I know most people seem to feel different than me, but siblinghood and family is not DNA. It can be exciting to find out that you potentially have more family out there. However, DNA does not make someone family anymore than not sharing DNA makes someone not family. Good luck with everything and I hope all turns out well for everyone involved.

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53 minutes ago, Scarlett said:

Wait!  How many have you found besides the birth mom of Andrew? 

Birth mom has two girls.   So there are two.

Birth dad, two sisters that I know of, one brother, and possibly others from what I have heard.

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If I did one of those DNA tests, I would be totally freaked out by people contacting me to tell me they were relatives. Quite frankly, at first I would think it was some sort of scam.  I might respond, but it would take a while for me to figure it out, come to terms with it (especially if it was a surprise), and figure out what, if anything, I wanted to do - get to know these strangers who I share DNA with but have no other connections or just go on with my life as it is.  If the people contacted me once and then stayed quiet, I would be okay, but if they contacted me again, that would really push me over the edge.  

But I'm not big into family history, or family connections, or anything like that. It might be different if one of my immediate family has some serious genetic related disease though.  I have little curiosity about unknown relatives. We have always lived far away from our relatives, and I'm totally fine with that. 

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22 minutes ago, Bambam said:

If I did one of those DNA tests, I would be totally freaked out by people contacting me to tell me they were relatives. Quite frankly, at first I would think it was some sort of scam.  I might respond, but it would take a while for me to figure it out, come to terms with it (especially if it was a surprise), and figure out what, if anything, I wanted to do - get to know these strangers who I share DNA with but have no other connections or just go on with my life as it is.  If the people contacted me once and then stayed quiet, I would be okay, but if they contacted me again, that would really push me over the edge.  

But I'm not big into family history, or family connections, or anything like that. It might be different if one of my immediate family has some serious genetic related disease though.  I have little curiosity about unknown relatives. We have always lived far away from our relatives, and I'm totally fine with that. 

I am so perplexed as to why you would think people who share your dna, that you connected with on a dna site would be trying to scam you just because they reached out. . 

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