Terabith Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 A local restaurant here that we periodically frequent (with outdoor seating) had an outbreak early this fall where something like 60 people were infected with hepatitis A from an infected worker. Three people died. I just read an article about a hepatitis A outbreak tied to a Starbucks that has exposed thousands. So, I think we need hepatitis A vaccines. I think at least one child had one vaccine as a toddler, but I don't think she completed the series. (Pediatrician in San Antonio recommended it, and then we moved, and Virginia pediatrician did not recommend it at that time.). That would have been like 15 years ago. I'm pretty certain I have not had it. My husband probably did; the military gave most vaccines. But I'm not sure, and we probably don't have records for him. How hard is it to get this vaccine? Can I get it at a pharmacy? Should my kids start the series over?
Shoeless Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 You can get a Hep A vaccine at Walgreens. It's on their list of shots they give. I expect you have to book in advance so they can have it in stock for you. 2
NewIma Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 We just moved to another state from VA as you know. Our new pediatrician was shocked that our kids didn't have the Hepatitis A vaccine. The nurse thought we might be antivaxers even when I told them no doctor in Virginia ever recommended it to us. Both kids have now gotten the first shot and have to go back soon for the second shot. 2
Arcadia Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Terabith said: How hard is it to get this vaccine? Can I get it at a pharmacy? Should my kids start the series over? Very easy to request and get. I had boosters for Hepatitis B. It is safe to start the series over. We are from SE Asia and we have relatives and friends visiting so we opt for our kids to have Hep B vaccination as well. You could also get titers done and decide if you need the vaccination. 2
RootAnn Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) Our newish pediatrician told me tgat doctors will expect that my kids have had Hep A vax. None have except my dd that went overseas. I found out it is now on the recommended childhood vax list. First shot at a year old. Second shot 6 months later. I'm not sure when it changed for our area as it used to only be recommended for high risk areas/populations. My other ones will likely do the catchup shots as they do their boosters. ETA: We did not get it originally because my kids werenot in daycare (considered under high risk category) and the HepA vaccine is developed using an aborted fetal cell line. However, like the MMR vax now, we have no other option. Thus, we will be getting the shot now that I know it is recommended in the normal children's schedule. Edited November 22, 2021 by RootAnn
Janeway Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Terabith said: A local restaurant here that we periodically frequent (with outdoor seating) had an outbreak early this fall where something like 60 people were infected with hepatitis A from an infected worker. Three people died. I just read an article about a hepatitis A outbreak tied to a Starbucks that has exposed thousands. So, I think we need hepatitis A vaccines. I think at least one child had one vaccine as a toddler, but I don't think she completed the series. (Pediatrician in San Antonio recommended it, and then we moved, and Virginia pediatrician did not recommend it at that time.). That would have been like 15 years ago. I'm pretty certain I have not had it. My husband probably did; the military gave most vaccines. But I'm not sure, and we probably don't have records for him. How hard is it to get this vaccine? Can I get it at a pharmacy? Should my kids start the series over? It is embryo-derived so if you are prolife, anti-abortion, this would not be a shot you want. And it is easy to get the shot.
TravelingChris Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 We got the vaccines as a family in late 90's- early 00's. We were lining in New Mexico and it was endemic there. My kids were approx. 3, approx, 6, and approx. 10. Both dh and I got them too as soon as I found out it was endemic. And it has been nice not fretting everytime there is an outbreak.
kbutton Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Janeway said: It is embryo-derived so if you are prolife, anti-abortion, this would not be a shot you want. And it is easy to get the shot. Most pro-life people believe it’s ethical to take these vaccines in the absence of other options. 4 1
Terabith Posted November 22, 2021 Author Posted November 22, 2021 So, looking through my kids' records, they apparently have had hepatitis A. My current doctor does not have any vaccines that I got elsewhere, but I do not recall getting the hepatitis A vaccine. Is it a shot that is bad to get again if you have, in fact, gotten it? I don't want to be reckless, but I'm pretty sure I have not gotten it. (And pretty sure my husband probably has, since he was Air Force and they vaccinated for EVERYTHING, but again, we can't find records proving that.).
prairiewindmomma Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Janeway said: It is embryo-derived so if you are prolife, anti-abortion, this would not be a shot you want. And it is easy to get the shot. With regards to this point: the Pontifical Academy for Life in 2005 made a statement saying that where there is a disease that give risk to children or pregnant women and where there is no non-derived alternative, it’s use is justified as an extrema rata. 3
prairiewindmomma Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 Hep A can be repeated if necessary. In fact, it is if the shots are done too close together rather than the mandatory 6 months apart. Personally, I think if you eat out at all, ever, or eat food you personally do not prepare, you should have hep a vaccine. It’s just spread so easily, and is so prevalent in parts of the world. 1
Terabith Posted November 22, 2021 Author Posted November 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, prairiewindmomma said: Hep A can be repeated if necessary. In fact, it is if the shots are done too close together rather than the mandatory 6 months apart. Personally, I think if you eat out at all, ever, or eat food you personally do not prepare, you should have hep a vaccine. It’s just spread so easily, and is so prevalent in parts of the world. Thanks! I just made an appointment for tomorrow at 9 am. 2
katilac Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Janeway said: It is embryo-derived so if you are prolife, anti-abortion, this would not be a shot you want. And it is easy to get the shot. To clarify, they use lab-grown cells that originated from two abortions that occurred over 60 years ago. 1
Drama Llama Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 5 hours ago, kbutton said: Most pro-life people believe it’s ethical to take these vaccines in the absence of other options. Yep, and many pro-life people would argue that putting human lives at risk by not vaccinating is unethical. 8
Janeway Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, katilac said: To clarify, they use lab-grown cells that originated from two abortions that occurred over 60 years ago. To clarify, those two little girls should have grown up to be grown women, now with children and grandchildren. Also to clarify, they try many many dead babies before they settle on the cell lines to use, as in, thousands of dead babies, harvested for their cells. And it is because the pharmaceuticals want dead babies to cut up, hack up, and use the organs and cells from, that big pharma puts so much money in to congress to lobby for abortions.
katilac Posted November 22, 2021 Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Janeway said: To clarify, those two little girls should have grown up to be grown women, now with children and grandchildren. Also to clarify, they try many many dead babies before they settle on the cell lines to use, as in, thousands of dead babies, harvested for their cells. And it is because the pharmaceuticals want dead babies to cut up, hack up, and use the organs and cells from, that big pharma puts so much money in to congress to lobby for abortions. 100% incorrect. They use the cell lines from 60+ years ago, period. 4
ktgrok Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Janeway said: To clarify, those two little girls should have grown up to be grown women, now with children and grandchildren. Also to clarify, they try many many dead babies before they settle on the cell lines to use, as in, thousands of dead babies, harvested for their cells. And it is because the pharmaceuticals want dead babies to cut up, hack up, and use the organs and cells from, that big pharma puts so much money in to congress to lobby for abortions. ZERO lives are lost to create this vaccine. Lives are lost from hepatitis A. Therefore, if one is pro LIFE than it is obviously MORE pro life to vaccinate (and save lives) than to refuse which saves no one. 4
Terabith Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 Okay, @Janeway, thank you for the information, but while I think of myself as pro-life, I am not the kind of pro-life where this is a factor in the decision. Appointment made. Let's move on. 1
ktgrok Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Now I have to look into this, as my kids have not had Hep A, nor was it recommended! 1
Janeway Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 11 hours ago, ktgrok said: ZERO lives are lost to create this vaccine. Lives are lost from hepatitis A. Therefore, if one is pro LIFE than it is obviously MORE pro life to vaccinate (and save lives) than to refuse which saves no one. You refuse to acknowledge the children who died to make these shots as lives.
TerenceMil Posted November 24, 2022 Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/23/2021 at 3:07 PM, Janeway said: You refuse to acknowledge the children who died to make these shots as lives. What do you mean by this. I don't disagree with you. But what are you talking about exactly?
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