regentrude Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ordinary Shoes said: What would Jesus do? Weep. Jesus would weep. 8 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestavern Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Matryoshka said: I actually completely agree with you on this - the new playground equipment is so overly bubble-wrapped that I fear kids aren't learning important proprioceptive skills. I'm just newly a fan of monkey bars having a bit more space between them (not eliminating them). We went to a museum in Switzerland and were shocked to find adult saws, hatchets, etc. in the kids area for them to work/play with. It floored us. And no supervision. We were NOT used to seeing that in the US! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Just now, regentrude said: Weep. Jesus would weep. This is a phrase that I only became aware of recently, and man...I've had a lot of chances to use it 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestavern Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 10 hours ago, kokotg said: The AAP lists 401 pediatric deaths through 8/19 (and, yes, it's since May of 2020), with data from 44 states: https://www.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/ Any idea why the discrepancy? And who do we believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, whitestavern said: Any idea why the discrepancy? And who do we believe? CDC data is usually provisional for quite awhile and pretty laggy, IME. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, whitestavern said: Any idea why the discrepancy? And who do we believe? this is showing 454 deaths through 8/21 in 0-18 year olds (still provisional): https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3 ETA: the CDC director was talking about 400 pediatric deaths already back in July: https://news.yahoo.com/children-not-supposed-die-cdc-213203164.html Edited August 28, 2021 by kokotg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_a_Number Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, kokotg said: this is showing 454 deaths through 8/21 in 0-18 year olds (still provisional): https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3 ETA: the CDC director was talking about 400 pediatric deaths already back in July: https://news.yahoo.com/children-not-supposed-die-cdc-213203164.html And IIRC, that doesn't count the MIS-C deaths, right? Edited August 28, 2021 by Not_a_Number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 hours ago, KSera said: Yikes. Look at the diagram of how the teacher spread it to the students. Who's going to want their student in the front row of a classroom with an unmasked teacher right now? I think kids all need to be eating outdoors, too. Looking at this CDC study again (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm) it is pretty troubling to me that the classroom had windows and door open and a HEPA filter running and still this result. What we don't know is what the result would have been if the teacher had kept her mask on. And of course, had she not been attending social gatherings and then attending school with symptoms, that would likely have stopped it as well. The open windows and door plus high efficiency HEPA filter makes me worry there's no way to do this safely 😥. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 11 hours ago, regentrude said: Weep. Jesus would weep. 11 hours ago, ktgrok said: This is a phrase that I only became aware of recently, and man...I've had a lot of chances to use it 😞 Jesus wept bc of his LOVE of mankind and bc of his sorrow and sadness that people die. He saw his friends weeping bc of Lazarus being dead and it moved him. It also shows his truly dual nature…He is human, he weeps. And He is God, bc he raised Lazarus from the dead. The two of you imply that Jesus wept bc he is ashamed of humanity which is incorrect. He wept from his love and compassion and sorrow for our pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, pinball said: Jesus wept bc of his LOVE of mankind and bc of his sorrow and sadness that people die. He saw his friends weeping bc of Lazarus being dead and it moved him. It also shows his truly dual nature…He is human, he weeps. And He is God, bc he raised Lazarus from the dead. The two of you imply that Jesus wept bc he is ashamed of humanity which is incorrect. He wept from his love and compassion and sorrow for our pain. Huh? Seeing how many people are dying, Jesus would have a lot of weeping to do. And seeing how bluntly humans disregard the command to love their neighbors can only contribute to Jesus' tears. Because it must feel to him as if his whole sacrifice was pointless. God probably weeps, too. Or maybe He's gotten so fed up with humans that He no longer cares. I wouldn't blame Him. Eta: and it has to be especially painful for Jesus to see that humans who don't give a crap about their fellow humans label themselves by his name. Edited August 28, 2021 by regentrude 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, regentrude said: Huh? Seeing how many people are dying, Jesus would have a lot of weeping to do. And seeing how bluntly humans disregard the command to love their neighbors can only contribute to Jesus' tears. Because it must feel to him as if his whole sacrifice was pointless. God probably weeps, too. Or maybe He's gotten so fed up with humans that He no longer cares. I wouldn't blame Him. You are missing the point. Once Jesus sacrificed his life, all humanity now has the chance for ETERNAL life. He wept BEFORE this happened. He conquered death for ALL humanity when he gave himself up to be crucified. This kind of response…that Jesus (who is God) thinks his sacrifice is pointless is just ridiculous. You think since you think this way, Jesus must, too. That’s not how it works. Besides, aren’t you an atheist? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanin Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 14 hours ago, regentrude said: I am not in favor of frivolous law suits, but if a teacher unmasks in school (where a mandate exists!) and gives half the class Covid, the parents should sue. (Have been wondering this for a while: people in this country sue for all kinds of nonsense - why don't we hear of law suits against people who recklessly infect others?) There are also “mask breaks” in schools that have mask mandates. I don’t get that at all. Kids take off their masks for a few minutes in the same classroom where they sit all day.... I understand the need for mask breaks, but I don’t understand the logic, safety-wise, of taking them off in the classroom. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drama Llama Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) ... Edited October 30, 2021 by Nothingtoseehere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SKL Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ordinary Shoes said: It appears that the school no longer notifies all of the parents when there is a positive COVID case in the school. That explains why I haven't been hearing about it. I thought it was suspicious that COVID is spreading so much in the area but I didn't hear about new cases at all. They only send notice if your child is in the classroom with a confirmed case. It's so amazing to me that they want to keep this quiet. Where I live, there is info posted weekly on the school district's website and on the state Covid dashboard. (We've never had other kinds of notifications except if our own kid was a "close contact" i.e. needed to quarantine.) Maybe your area has started doing it that way also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasProud Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, SKL said: Where I live, there is info posted weekly on the school district's website and on the state Covid dashboard. (We've never had other kinds of notifications except if our own kid was a "close contact" i.e. needed to quarantine.) Maybe your area has started doing it that way also. My district does not have a dashboard. The only info we can find is in the state dashboard which is a minimum a week behind, and I don't think our district reports accurately either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) Well, this is interesting. I've compared two of these counties an awful lot over the past year (the one I live in and the one that's within spitting distance of my house), but someone compiled the data on all the metro Atlanta school districts, and there's a pretty clear pattern about mask mandates, even though there are some individual outliers (ETA: yeah, and there's one county (it's the one where we used to live/my husband used to teach) where 3.5% of the students tested positive IN TWO WEEKS) Disclaimer: I haven't verified her numbers; it's all publicly available information: Edited August 28, 2021 by kokotg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmmetler Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 2:04 PM, regentrude said: I don't know what is going on at SUNY, but a very simple explanation (that does not require ascribing any nefarious motives to anybody) could be that students pose a much higher risk to one another than the professor to the students or other professors. My 140 students sit shoulder on shoulder in a packed lecture hall. I stand at the podium, a comfortable 10+ feet away. My students share dorm rooms, showers, dining halls. I go home where I share living space with only my immediate family. (ETA: I am vaccinated anyway, as are all of my colleagues I have spoken to) In addition, at least at some schools some of the health requirements apply only to residential students for this reason-that meningitis, for example, is a lot more likely to be spread in the dorms and dining halls than in Calculus 101, especially in schools which don't have infirmary space, so sick kids are given prescriptions and sent to recuperate in their dorm rooms. Most colleges didn't until last year when quarantine was seen as necessary, even after the measles outbreaks in the 1990's among residential students at some colleges (which led in turn to many schools mandating an additional measles vaccine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 18 hours ago, pinball said: You are missing the point. Once Jesus sacrificed his life, all humanity now has the chance for ETERNAL life. He wept BEFORE this happened. He conquered death for ALL humanity when he gave himself up to be crucified. This kind of response…that Jesus (who is God) thinks his sacrifice is pointless is just ridiculous. You think since you think this way, Jesus must, too. That’s not how it works. Besides, aren’t you an atheist? Have you considered how this comes across to non Christians? Do you think it makes them interested to learn more about this Jesus and want to be more like his followers? It doesn’t. This all makes me weep because I actually think the Jesus regentrude describes (who sounds like the Jesus I know) would draw people to him. Shutting people out of the “club” because they are atheists is clearly not a WWJD moment. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, KSera said: Have you considered how this comes across to non Christians? Do you think it makes them interested to learn more about this Jesus and want to be more like his followers? It doesn’t. This all makes me weep because I actually think the Jesus regentrude describes (who sounds like the Jesus I know) would draw people to him. Shutting people out of the “club” because they are atheists is clearly not a WWJD moment. Non-Christians might want to know that Christianity has some basic beliefs. One is that God made humans in his image, not the other way around. If people want to twist God into their image, that’s their choice. If someone who doesn’t even believe in God does it, I’d wonder why? Im sure the next step if for others to jump in, call me me names, complain about getting the thread back on topic, and explain how to put me on ignore or whatever it is called. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, pinball said: complain about getting the thread back on topic I’ll take the responsibility for having dragged it back off topic again. It seemed important to make clear for others reading that that post did not speak for Christians in general. So much harm to the church the last few years 😥. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Our school district has 900+ kids in quarantine, and counting. They are still contact tracing, and will update those numbers “soon.” It feels pretty out of control. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loowit Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 DD's college is requiring testing of everyone as they are getting to campus. They did a big testing day the end of last week. They had .4% test positive, 2 students and 1 staff. She was feeling pretty good about the numbers. The school is doing a good job for the most part with following covid guidelines to keep people safe. I am concerned about this coming week here, however. Our K-12 schools start and there is a mask mandate, but there are a lot of parents protesting, and I fear that some teachers will not be following the mandate or enforcing it. I am so glad my brother, who is a teacher, was able to get his booster shot because of his immune issues. Our numbers are already high, percent positivity is around 28.7% and climbing, and our hospital is overwhelmed with tents set up outside for the overflow. I worry starting school right now will be a disaster, but I pray I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSera Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Loowit said: Our numbers are already high, percent positivity is around 28.7% and climbing, Yikes, that’s high. Hopefully we start finding mask mandates are enough to prevent out of control outbreaks in the schools. I don’t expect it will prevent them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storygirl Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Ordinary Shoes said: I've been wondering why there weren't cases in the school. There was another positive in DD's class on Friday and I noticed that the school wasn't emailed. I emailed the principal yesterday to ask how many children have tested positive. She responded today, 5 positives total. They are no longer sending notice to the school. They send notice to the parents of the children in the classroom. They send children home if there is a "close contact." "Close contact" is defined as being within 6 feet for more than 15 minutes of a child who is positive. If both children are wearing masks, they are not considered a close contact. She claimed this consistent with the CDC guidance. I'm super annoyed. My DD wears a mask so that means that if she's exposed to another child who wears a mask that we wouldn't be notified that she was within 6 feet. We would only be told that she was in the classroom with an effected child. This seems ridiculous to me. None of the masks worn by the children are that great, including the one that DD wears. Plus I think I should know if DD is close to another child who tested positive. Also they basing the close contact on where they sit in the classroom, not who they sit with at lunch. This is very similar to our school's policy last year. Except that they did quarantine people who sat together at lunch, more than those who sat near each other in classrooms, because during lunch the masks were off. We got a lot of letters about Covid in my kids' classrooms, but there was only one time that one of my kids had to quarantine, for sharing a lunch table. My kids did not get Covid last year (well, DD19 did, but she was away at college, not the high school). This year, they are planning to only notify parents if a certain level of Covid positives are in one classroom, not for just one case. There was no explanation of how they determine when to notify, exactly. Our school had a Covid dashboard last school year, but they took it down. I was not happy with the way our district and health department did everything last year, but things went better than anyone expected. This year, they have returned to normal operations for most things and seem to think that this year will go better than last year. I'm worried that it will be worse, because they have removed so many of the protections, and Delta is so contagious. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean in Newcastle Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Loowit said: DD's college is requiring testing of everyone as they are getting to campus. They did a big testing day the end of last week. They had .4% test positive, 2 students and 1 staff. She was feeling pretty good about the numbers. The school is doing a good job for the most part with following covid guidelines to keep people safe. I am concerned about this coming week here, however. Our K-12 schools start and there is a mask mandate, but there are a lot of parents protesting, and I fear that some teachers will not be following the mandate or enforcing it. I am so glad my brother, who is a teacher, was able to get his booster shot because of his immune issues. Our numbers are already high, percent positivity is around 28.7% and climbing, and our hospital is overwhelmed with tents set up outside for the overflow. I worry starting school right now will be a disaster, but I pray I am wrong. Teachers are also mandated to get vaccinated. Have you heard anything about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Ugh my kid who has OCD just went on a rant about her worries. I have had a runny nose (not unusual for me), and she suddenly said, "do you have the Delta variant? Because if you have it you're going to give it to me and then I'll go to school and give it to a bunch of kids who will take it home to their parents and grandparents and people will die." I pointed out that if I get Delta, it will be because my kids brought it home from school, since I'm not around other people. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loowit Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jean in Newcastle said: Teachers are also mandated to get vaccinated. Have you heard anything about that? They are fighting that too. Many are threatening to quit. I am not sure how many actually will. We have a pretty low vaccination rate in our county ans it isn't going up much at all. There is a lot of misinformation and conspiracy theories going around on local social media. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drama Llama Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) . . . Edited October 28, 2021 by Nothingtoseehere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) My "kid" (my DD) is now a Young Adult. Today is her FDOC in her "Semester Abroad" program in Germany. She was switched, with millions of other students in the USA, suddenly, from in-person classes to online courses, early in 2020. This is her return to in-person classes and I am sure that it will be different for her and the other students who make that transition. The university in Germany normally has approximately 200 students in their "Semester Abroad" programs. This semester there are 40 plus. With time, more students will be attending in-person courses. Edited August 30, 2021 by Lanny typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKL Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 My eldest decided to put on a mask when exiting the car this morning. My other daughter told me that maybe 5% of kids in their school mask. Since our vax rates among teens are not super high, I think there should be more masking, but I understand it's not easy to be the one who stands out in high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 9 hours ago, SKL said: Ugh my kid who has OCD just went on a rant about her worries. I have had a runny nose (not unusual for me), and she suddenly said, "do you have the Delta variant? Because if you have it you're going to give it to me and then I'll go to school and give it to a bunch of kids who will take it home to their parents and grandparents and people will die." I pointed out that if I get Delta, it will be because my kids brought it home from school, since I'm not around other people. This is so sad. I hope she is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SKL Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, BaseballandHockey said: It isn’t easy. I think asking kids to take on that burden for themselves rather than the adults (in this case school staff, this isn’t a criticism of your parenting) is so unfair. I don't know if the teachers are generally masking. I will need to ask my kids about that. It is strongly recommended but not required in our district. At least some of the teachers are recommending it, so I assume they are following their own advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SKL Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, BaseballandHockey said: Sorry, I didn’t mean it like that. What I mean is that when we “recommend” masks we put kids in the difficult position of needing to make a decision that someone will judge them for it. On the other hand, when we require masks, then kids are spared that, and the adults carry the burden. Yes, but honestly, I think high schoolers are old enough to take some responsibility. Not saying it's easy, but life isn't easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_a_Number Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, SKL said: Yes, but honestly, I think high schoolers are old enough to take some responsibility. Not saying it's easy, but life isn't easy. Sure, but this creates hard “collective action” problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH_Homeschooler Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Quick update on my daughter's Health teacher: The principal said the teacher's mask is okay. I can't find anything other than recommendations from the state that masks be a tight-weaved fabric. So I guess there's nothing that can be done from a legal perspective. But from an ethical perspective, this teacher is a hot mess. I cannot engage in a big fight over this. I have to choose my battles. My daughter will continue to report to the counselor's office for class so at least she won't be exposed to this person's toxicity and misinformation. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terabith Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, SKL said: Yes, but honestly, I think high schoolers are old enough to take some responsibility. Not saying it's easy, but life isn't easy. Yes, but as we have seen from stores and rules about "if you are unvaccinated, you should mask," adults are completely unable to take on this responsibility as a collective. It's so much better if it's mandated from on high. Kids don't have to stick out and worry about being teased by other kids. It's just the rule. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happi duck Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I don't know how anyone thinks that Americans, collectively, are good about following *recommendations*. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heartlikealion Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 My six year old is over quarantine and her brother never got sick. We actually had a fight this weekend about wearing masks in public. I thought he was pulling my leg! He used to be super pro-mask and then suddenly he thinks he's immune to covid because he was in a house with two covid positive people (dd and dh) at dh's house. Not only was he in the home with them, at one point he ate off her plate of food. I was like WHAT. In a lapse of memory/covid brain/whatever, dh apparently told ds to finish dd's food and ds took a bite without thinking. I said well it's great you didn't get sick, but I just think you should still wear a mask in public. I explained my reasoning and he was irritated (which I sorta get.... I tend to worry what others think more than he does). I said it looks bad if we go to the church without masks when the priest urges people to wear one. He pointed out that it was optional and I said yes, but the priest would like us to and I think it makes others more comfortable. When we go to Mass Saturday night there wasn't much of a crowd and we were spaced out so I said ok you can remove it if you want (but I make them wear them in the Communion line at least). Well ironically the lady two pews in front of me without a mask on sneezed and I sneezed during Mass. I later said see, you never know when someone will sneeze. He decided to keep his mask on the entire service, though. I was actually really disappointed at how few people wore masks to the service. But it will not stop me from wearing mine. The clinic closed today for weather so I can't get my second vaccine this afternoon. I don't know when they can reschedule. Hopefully I can go later this week. After all that has happened I asked the kids if people on campus are wearing masks and ds said not really and that he's seen the headmaster walking around campus without one on. UGH. These are the models my kids have. Makes me so mad. In case anyone is wondering, dd's main symptoms were upset stomach and sore throat but the sore throat may have been from the strep. Even last night she complained of a tender injection site from the antibiotics they gave her for strep. Just FYI, it took 4 days for dh to get his 3-day test results. I can't remember if I already posted about that. And he had a whole list of symptoms. Then to add salt to the wound he found out they are not giving "covid sick days" at work this year so he had to use 10 days (which I think mostly came from his vacation) during quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaelAldrich Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I live in Boston. The state educational authorities have mandated masks and I believe the city's public school is making vaccines strongly encouraged. The local right wing (politically as well as religiously) Orthodox Jewish day school just published their covid guidelines on Friday (they start tomorrow), which are no masks mandated as well as no vaccines mandated by staff, faculty, or students. There is a minority of families who are very upset. The Orthodox Jewish girl's high school my daughter attends will publish their guidelines today (they start Wednesday). My husband was on the reopening committee last year. This year he was not asked to join. The doctors in the committee told him that they aren't going to push because they have been harassed by community members. Some board members are pro-mitigation, but most aren't. I told my DH that we won't donate to any school that doesn't advocate for robust mitigation systems. All the other Jewish schools in the area will mask and require vaccines as much as they can. I'm so tired of feeling disdain (or worse) for my fellow Jews. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_a_Number Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, YaelAldrich said: I live in Boston. The state educational authorities have mandated masks and I believe the city's public school is making vaccines strongly encouraged. The local right wing (politically as well as religiously) Orthodox Jewish day school just published their covid guidelines on Friday (they start tomorrow), which are no masks mandated as well as no vaccines mandated by staff, faculty, or students. There is a minority of families who are very upset. The Orthodox Jewish girl's high school my daughter attends will publish their guidelines today (they start Wednesday). My husband was on the reopening committee last year. This year he was not asked to join. The doctors in the committee told him that they aren't going to push because they have been harassed by community members. Some board members are pro-mitigation, but most aren't. I told my DH that we won't donate to any school that doesn't advocate for robust mitigation systems. All the other Jewish schools in the area will mask and require vaccines as much as they can. I'm so tired of feeling disdain (or worse) for my fellow Jews. Isn't Israel already doing the experiment of what happens if you don't mask and don't vaccinate? 😕 The death numbers are really not great, despite the high levels of vaccination... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaelAldrich Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 UPDATE: my DD's school will follow the other ultra "religious" schools in not requiring masks nor vaccination. Nor even testing after people go away to other locations to visit family (even though that's how most of the outbreaks began last year). I am SO f'in angry right now. The head of the school has a daughter with a lung illness for goodness sake! They pray for her but refuse to keep her family safer? WTH? 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutTN Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Metro public school system here has roughly 4000 people in quarantine and over 600 positive cases. They have no provision for virtual classes this year. Masks are required, but idk how well that is enforced. Glad my kids are not in this system! Sad for those who are having to endure both delta and chaos in school. eta: 86K students in the system. Edited September 1, 2021 by ScoutTN 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spryte Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Next door neighbor’s child is in quarantine. One of her classmates tested positive. Her three siblings are not quarantined, and go to a different school. I don’t really know how that works. Bingo,anyone? Edited August 31, 2021 by Spryte Link 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikslo Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 11 hours ago, ScoutTN said: Metro public school system here has roughly 4000 people in quarantine and over 600 positive cases. They have no provision for virtual classes this year. Masks are required, but idk how well that is enforced. Glad my kids are not in this system! Sad for those who are having to endure both delta and chaos in school. 600? Well, Hillsborough County Public Schools have that beat - try 6000. 6,153 reported employee and student cases since Aug. 2. School started Aug. 10. To put this in perspective, "there were 8,771 cases if COVID-19 reported to the district between March 2020 and July 2021." 17 months vs. less than 1 month. Tighter mask mandate was implemented Aug. 18, I believe? So far, I am seeing no signs that it has helped whatsoever. Yesterday's numbers were 399 students, 56 employees who reported positive test results. Total current district impact is 9,134 in quarantine, but this number fluctuates as people get cleared. We're still getting almost daily calls that students in my son's high school are infected - 73 students and 9 employees so far. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 7 hours ago, ikslo said: 600? Well, Hillsborough County Public Schools have that beat - try 6000. 6,153 reported employee and student cases since Aug. 2. School started Aug. 10. To put this in perspective, "there were 8,771 cases if COVID-19 reported to the district between March 2020 and July 2021." 17 months vs. less than 1 month. Tighter mask mandate was implemented Aug. 18, I believe? So far, I am seeing no signs that it has helped whatsoever. Yesterday's numbers were 399 students, 56 employees who reported positive test results. Total current district impact is 9,134 in quarantine, but this number fluctuates as people get cleared. We're still getting almost daily calls that students in my son's high school are infected - 73 students and 9 employees so far. How big is the district?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktgrok Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 From Wikipedia Hillsborough County Public Schools Students and staff Students 206,841 Teachers 15,162 Staff 25,170 (Includes teachers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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