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4 minutes ago, Corraleno said:

39 year old father of 5 texts "Oh my [expletive] God. This is terrible. I should have gotten the damn vaccine,” before dying of covid.

His fiancee said "We were just holding off and now to think that if we just had gotten the shot ... he could still be here. He is only 39. Our babies now don’t have a dad." 

I don't know how people sleep at night knowing their lies and disinformation are killing people and destroying families.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/i-should-have-gotten-the-damn-vaccine-las-vegas-father-of-5-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-in-socal/

So many stories like that. It's just so terribly sad.

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I'm curious about the 'holding off' phrase from the article above - I've seen it before (in the US, not Australia where it is still hard to get a vaccine if you're under 40). What are they waiting for? Till they're older or till they feel more vulnerable or till they have some free time or till the vaccine is several years down the track? Or is it a phrase meaning ' we knew about it, we weren't against it, we just didn't get around to it cause it didn't seem urgent.'

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15 minutes ago, bookbard said:

I'm curious about the 'holding off' phrase from the article above - I've seen it before (in the US, not Australia where it is still hard to get a vaccine if you're under 40). What are they waiting for? Till they're older or till they feel more vulnerable or till they have some free time or till the vaccine is several years down the track? Or is it a phrase meaning ' we knew about it, we weren't against it, we just didn't get around to it cause it didn't seem urgent.'

Most people irl that I know who say this mean they don’t feel their personal risk is high enough to risk the “new vaccine” and that maybe a year or so from now they will get it after seeing there’s no side effects. 

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16 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

Lord, have mercy.

Cause nothing short of a miracle is going to help that kind of ridiculousness. 

I know. Once again I honestly can’t tell the difference between a satire Onion piece and actual real news anymore. Bc that article totally reads like The Onion to me. 

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11 minutes ago, Murphy101 said:

I know. Once again I honestly can’t tell the difference between a satire Onion piece and actual real news anymore. Bc that article totally reads like The Onion to me. 

I read the article and thought maybe this is just human nature. Humans aren't very good at responding to unseen threats. We're just as oblivious to threats of climate change. 

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29 minutes ago, bookbard said:

I'm curious about the 'holding off' phrase from the article above - I've seen it before (in the US, not Australia where it is still hard to get a vaccine if you're under 40). What are they waiting for? Till they're older or till they feel more vulnerable or till they have some free time or till the vaccine is several years down the track? Or is it a phrase meaning ' we knew about it, we weren't against it, we just didn't get around to it cause it didn't seem urgent.'

For some it's because mRNA is a relatively new technology vaccine.  It's only been around about 10 years or so and wasn't successful until now.  So, some people are just waiting around for a few more years and FDA approval.  Currently, it's only approved for emergency use only. 

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3 minutes ago, desertflower said:

For some it's because mRNA is a relatively new technology vaccine.  It's only been around about 10 years or so and wasn't successful until now.  So, some people are just waiting around for a few more years and FDA approval.  Currently, it's only approved for emergency use only. 

And some wanted to wait and see how it did with variant(s). They want a more comprehensive injection that will last. And some say they’re not getting it if it becomes a yearly thing like a flu shot. 

 

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6 hours ago, regentrude said:

Why? Of course it would not have prevented entry by an asymptomatic person, but if you can catch people who are actually running a fever, why is that bad?
I see this as one of the many layers of protection. Does not replace masking, does not replace distancing, but adds one more layer to the swiss cheese the whole protection thing is. 

One of the early Covid patients in our hospital was a delivery driver who was identified because his temp was checked when he came to deliver something so he was tested and was positive.

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1 hour ago, bookbard said:

I'm curious about the 'holding off' phrase from the article above - I've seen it before (in the US, not Australia where it is still hard to get a vaccine if you're under 40). What are they waiting for? Till they're older or till they feel more vulnerable or till they have some free time or till the vaccine is several years down the track? Or is it a phrase meaning ' we knew about it, we weren't against it, we just didn't get around to it cause it didn't seem urgent.'

I was planning to wait until my teens could get it, and then go as a family and get it done together.  (This was before this Delta stuff.)  I figured that since we couldn't go around older people until my kids were vaccinated, and I work at home, there was no point in my getting the vax sooner.  (I also have a statistically low risk profile.)

My otherwise healthy brother almost died from double pneumonia some years ago.  Young people do unfortunately die of various illnesses, but it is very rare, even with Covid.  I can understand a person in his 30s not considering it urgent to get this vax.  Like me, he probably never knew anyone who had gotten very sick from Covid.

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38 minutes ago, AbcdeDooDah said:

ome wanted to wait and see how it did with variant(s). They want a more comprehensive injection that will last. And some say they’re not getting it if it becomes a yearly thing like a flu shot. 

 

But they could be dead before then. I mean, I was concerned back in say July 2020 when they were working on the vaccine. A billion doses down the track and over 4 million deaths - including young people and children? 

And that article, where they're in a packed club with people dancing and the guy's like, 'where are the sick people?' - uh, they're in the hospital, funnily enough. Seriously?

I think I feel disbelieving because it's just so hard to get the vaccine in Australia unless you're over 40 and live near a city. And they're handing it out with gifts in the USA, and people are turning it down. 

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1 hour ago, Murphy101 said:

Most people irl that I know who say this mean they don’t feel their personal risk is high enough to risk the “new vaccine” and that maybe a year or so from now they will get it after seeing there’s no side effects. 

I am actually a person who is generally hesitant about novel vaccines. I took my kids to a pox party rather than have them get the pox vax... but that was a long known generally mild childhood illness that almost always gives lifelong immunity, but can be dangerous for adults, and I wasn't sure if vax immunity might wane and make them vulnerable when it was a more dangerous disease.  I held off on Gardasil.

I even said (before they'd come out with the vax) that I wouldn't want to be first in line to get it.  But HECK... by the time my turn came up, literally BILLIONS of people had gotten it before me!   Most other new vaxes take years to get the exposure this one did in just months.  And this isn’t a mild childhood illness or spread only by body fluids. By the time it was my turn, I was more than ready!!  With the sheer number of people that have taken these and the stats now out about their safety and efficacy,  I'm not clear what new information these people are waiting for! 

 

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3 hours ago, Corraleno said:

39 year old father of 5 texts "Oh my [expletive] God. This is terrible. I should have gotten the damn vaccine,” before dying of covid.

His fiancee said "We were just holding off and now to think that if we just had gotten the shot ... he could still be here. He is only 39. Our babies now don’t have a dad." 

I don't know how people sleep at night knowing their lies and disinformation are killing people and destroying families.

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/i-should-have-gotten-the-damn-vaccine-las-vegas-father-of-5-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-in-socal/

These stories are all just heartbreaking. I keep wondering about the bolded as well. I wonder if people consider how they will feel if they ever end up in that same scenario, or if they just feel sure that would never happen to them or anyone they know. But it’s happening to so very many right now. It’s so sad and awful. 

3 hours ago, Murphy101 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-why-people-america-hardest-033021315.html
 

From the beautiful but not so great state of Misery.

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1 hour ago, Melissa Louise said:

Thanks for sharing. That was interesting. I was struck by how much more community-minded people seem to be than in the US. 

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3 hours ago, bookbard said:

I'm curious about the 'holding off' phrase from the article above - I've seen it before (in the US, not Australia where it is still hard to get a vaccine if you're under 40). What are they waiting for? Till they're older or till they feel more vulnerable or till they have some free time or till the vaccine is several years down the track? Or is it a phrase meaning ' we knew about it, we weren't against it, we just didn't get around to it cause it didn't seem urgent.'

The people I know who are declining the covid vaccine don't think they'll catch covid.  They think the whole pandemic is an over-reaction, and that only drama queens and weenies are getting the vaccine.

If they know someone that got covid, it was either an asymptomatic or very mild case.  Or, if they know someone with bad covid, they brush it aside by saying "Well, so-and-so was always kind of an idiot", and you get the impression they think they are too smart to catch covid.  My mom and her husband fall into this category.  They think only morons get covid. 🤷‍♀️

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5 hours ago, KSera said:

or if they just feel sure that would never happen to them or anyone they know

 

4 hours ago, MissLemon said:

The people I know who are declining the covid vaccine don't think they'll catch covid

When I think of vaccine refusers I'm often reminded of my SIL. When we first told her that DH had been diagnosed with cancer her immediate response was "But I didn't think that happened to our family."

Seriously.

And I don't think that type of thinking is particularly unusual. There's a slew of people out there who think bad things just don't or won't happen to them. Some people--and we've seen it repeatedly posted on this very forum--think if they just eat right and/or exercise and/or go to church every time the doors are open, or do/don't do whatever other magical things they've invented then "it" won't happen to them (Covid, cancer, diabetes, dementia, insert any "it" you can think of). Other people seem to think they're just that special and that they live a charmed life, period.

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6 hours ago, MissLemon said:

The people I know who are declining the covid vaccine don't think they'll catch covid.  They think the whole pandemic is an over-reaction, and that only drama queens and weenies are getting the vaccine.

If they know someone that got covid, it was either an asymptomatic or very mild case.  Or, if they know someone with bad covid, they brush it aside by saying "Well, so-and-so was always kind of an idiot", and you get the impression they think they are too smart to catch covid.  My mom and her husband fall into this category.  They think only morons get covid. 🤷‍♀️

Or only fat people die of it. Or "They must've had some underlying conditions." if the speaker him/herself is not slim. The same sentiment was in the Missouri article just posted, a cook died of Covid and they said, "But we don't know what all was wrong with him."

 

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10 hours ago, Ordinary Shoes said:

I read the article and thought maybe this is just human nature. Humans aren't very good at responding to unseen threats. We're just as oblivious to threats of climate change. 

Agreed, but a vaccine is a simple step we can take to prevent a disaster. At least for me, knowing actual personal actions that will prevent climate change aren't as obvious (besides recycling, walking vs driving, etc). 

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11 hours ago, Murphy101 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-why-people-america-hardest-033021315.html
 

From the beautiful but not so great state of Misery.

That is exactly the anti-vax people I know to a T. So, when I hear we need to have all this grace and patience I have ZERO. Because of the people I know not vaxed they are all like this. I know that not all un-vaxxed are arrogant, reckless, selfish idiots but I don't know these people. When I was in an auto parts store a few months back I seen first hand a customer heckling a worker for wearing a mask. People just aren't against vaxxing and virus mitigation measures for themselves they are against anyone doing them. 

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11 hours ago, desertflower said:

For some it's because mRNA is a relatively new technology vaccine.  It's only been around about 10 years or so and wasn't successful until now.  So, some people are just waiting around for a few more years and FDA approval.  Currently, it's only approved for emergency use only. 

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2 hours ago, whitestavern said:

That was a disappointing opinion piece. It would have been less disappointing if they made their case without also dropping pieces of vaccine misinformation throughout without correcting it and using statistics in a disingenuous way to make the vaccine seem ineffective. They also make it sound like having vaccine mandates in certain situations (such as universities) is a brand new thing and will never work, when it has never been a problem in the past, and I know many universities with Covid vaccine mandates for fall that seem so far to be successful In getting their campus community highly vaccinated.

Speaking of, I think what happens in universities will provide a lot of useful information for us this this Fall. We will have the opportunity to see what happens in super highly vaccinated communities (campuses that require vaccination or exemption) vs those with lower vaccination rates. If enough of them are gathering data, it could even give some idea just what the herd immunity threshold really is for this disease with current vaccines. I expect there should be some colleges starting in the next few weeks with mandates in place, so I’ll be watching how that goes. Would be especially interesting to see the difference when two schools are located in the same area, one with and one without a mandate. 

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2 hours ago, whitestavern said:

Interesting editorial. In the NY Times article I posted about the two different groups of people who are not vaccinated, the two things most likely to get the adamantly opposed group to vaccinate (based on polling) were free transportation and requiring them for flying. Maybe selective mandates is the key?

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1 hour ago, KSera said:

That was a disappointing opinion piece. It would have been less disappointing if they made their case without also dropping pieces of vaccine misinformation throughout without correcting it and using statistics in a disingenuous way to make the vaccine seem ineffective. They also make it sound like having vaccine mandates in certain situations (such as universities) is a brand new thing and will never work, when it has never been a problem in the past, and I know many universities with Covid vaccine mandates for fall that seem so far to be successful In getting their campus community highly vaccinated.

They also didn’t provide any background information about the authors of the editorial. As for the conclusion, haven’t we been there pretty much since the beginning of the pandemic? At least in my state, some have resisted every mitigation message since the very beginning.
 

Instead of “normalizing” the jab, it risks creating a permanent and hardened segment of our society, primed to oppose government efforts to deal with covid or other public health crises on the horizon.

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44 minutes ago, Frances said:

They also didn’t provide any background information about the authors of the editorial.

I've just been down an interesting rabbit trail learning about the authors. The first is a social scientist, the second a political scientist (both at universities). The second, Nicholas Tempio was pretty interesting to read. From what I've gleaned from his Twitter feed, he comes across as anti-vax, anti Bill Gates, anti Common Core (Common Core and education appear to be his focus areas, and he has written a book against Common Core standards). I agree with many of his tweets about education, particularly the value of play. I disagree with his clear negativity about vaccines and don't know what his specific beef with the Gates is (perhaps related to education?). Overall, I get a vibe that makes me think he may be a Libertarian, but haven't read enough to know that.

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The reason I was given today was the 48,000 people have died FROM the vaccine in the US (not just died after getting a vaccine...but from the vaccine) and that the government is hiding that fact.

Now, I do realize that there might be a very rare case of someone dying from the vaccine.   There are also cases of people dying after the vaccine, but my friend that is a doctor said that she had patients on hospice that got the vaccine so that they could see their family, even though they knew that they themselves would die in 2-6 weeks from an unrelated illness.

Any research to debunk the 48,000 people dying from the vaccine?  That someone totally steeped in the this is an experimental thing camp.

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5 hours ago, historically accurate said:

Or only fat people die of it. Or "They must've had some underlying conditions." if the speaker him/herself is not slim. The same sentiment was in the Missouri article just posted, a cook died of Covid and they said, "But we don't know what all was wrong with him."

 

I completely agree. Except we do know exactly what was wrong with him in the end - COVID. 

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15 minutes ago, Ottakee said:

The reason I was given today was the 48,000 people have died FROM the vaccine in the US (not just died after getting a vaccine...but from the vaccine) and that the government is hiding that fact.

Now, I do realize that there might be a very rare case of someone dying from the vaccine.   There are also cases of people dying after the vaccine, but my friend that is a doctor said that she had patients on hospice that got the vaccine so that they could see their family, even though they knew that they themselves would die in 2-6 weeks from an unrelated illness.

Any research to debunk the 48,000 people dying from the vaccine?  That someone totally steeped in the this is an experimental thing camp.

Well, the first thing to do is to ask for their source/data on those 48,000. 

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12 minutes ago, ktgrok said:

Well, the first thing to do is to ask for their source/data on those 48,000. 

In my opinion they don’t seem to ever have a source other than VAERS and someone they know, who has 2 family members that died from the vaccine. Honestly I think I am on the cusp of throwing in the towel. I’ve heard so much rubbish spouted, that frankly doesn’t even make sense if you stop and think for a couple of minutes. 
I’m going to do what I know is right myself, show up to work and work flat out looking after everyone I can, and accept what happens.

On a lighter note, as a stress relieving measure at work, they are going to have a service dog there that you can go and pet, if you actually get a spare minute to do so. Nice thought though.

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30 minutes ago, Ottakee said:

The reason I was given today was the 48,000 people have died FROM the vaccine in the US (not just died after getting a vaccine...but from the vaccine) and that the government is hiding that fact.

Now, I do realize that there might be a very rare case of someone dying from the vaccine.   There are also cases of people dying after the vaccine, but my friend that is a doctor said that she had patients on hospice that got the vaccine so that they could see their family, even though they knew that they themselves would die in 2-6 weeks from an unrelated illness.

Any research to debunk the 48,000 people dying from the vaccine?  That someone totally steeped in the this is an experimental thing camp.

I think you could start by explaining how the VAERS database works, and that it is completely unverified and anyone can enter a report. There are reports of a two-year-old dying by suicide the day after getting the Covid vaccine in there (sick  that someone entered that), as well as someone dying due to being hit by lightning after the Covid vaccine. And there are obviously a lot like the case described above, where a very elderly person dies in the weeks following the vaccine, but not at a rate any higher than would be expected without the vaccine. If someone still believes the 48,000 number after understanding where the VAERS data comes from, and trusts that over verified study data that shows an incredibly low rate of fatal events attributed to the vaccine, to the point that they didn’t even turn up until millions of people had been vaccinated, then I don’t think they actually care to know what’s true, and you’re probably not going to be able to get them to know they’ve been duped. 

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2 minutes ago, TCB said:


I’m going to do what I know is right myself, show up to work and work flat out looking after everyone I can, and accept what happens.

On a lighter note, as a stress relieving measure at work, they are going to have a service dog there that you can go and pet, if you actually get a spare minute to do so. Nice thought though

I’m so sorry. If I’m as frustrated as I am, just watching from the outside, I just can’t imagine how it is for you and your colleagues. I’m sorry. I just hope this ends soon.

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4 hours ago, ktgrok said:

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Except I have had people comment on how paranoid I must be to own a fire extinguisher. I have one of those little ones right outside the garage door into my kitchen so everyone sees it when they come in. And more than one person has laughed about it. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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1 minute ago, Murphy101 said:

😂

Except I have had people comment on how paranoid I must be to own a fire extinguisher. I have one of those little ones right outside the garage door into my kitchen so everyone sees it when they come in. And more than one person has laughed about it. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

I’m not a very organized home owner and even I have a small kitchen fire extinguisher. I thought it was just par for the safety course.

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6 minutes ago, TCB said:

I’m not a very organized home owner and even I have a small kitchen fire extinguisher. I thought it was just par for the safety course.

No lie - I have only ever met one other person who had one in their house.  And she’s now one of my best friends. Because people like us gotta stick together. LOL

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17 minutes ago, TCB said:

I’m not a very organized home owner and even I have a small kitchen fire extinguisher. I thought it was just par for the safety course.

I think our homeowners insurance requires it, so I just assumed everyone's did...I have one under the kitchen sink.

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36 minutes ago, TCB said:

someone they know, who has 2 family members that died from the vaccine

I probably shouldn't post this--it might be the final straw for you. But on another message board today someone is posting that she knows a baby who died because the mother got vaccinated, and the vaccine somehow tainted the mother's milk. Or something. She claims an autopsy was done and is implying--but not outright saying--that the coroner ruled that the vaccine was the cause of the baby's death. No source was cited, of course. Although one would think a death like that, complete with autopsy report, would have at least merited a story by a local newspaper or TV station, wouldn't you? Hmmm . . .

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7 hours ago, Pawz4me said:

 

When I think of vaccine refusers I'm often reminded of my SIL. When we first told her that DH had been diagnosed with cancer her immediate response was "But I didn't think that happened to our family."

Seriously.

And I don't think that type of thinking is particularly unusual. There's a slew of people out there who think bad things just don't or won't happen to them. Some people--and we've seen it repeatedly posted on this very forum--think if they just eat right and/or exercise and/or go to church every time the doors are open, or do/don't do whatever other magical things they've invented then "it" won't happen to them (Covid, cancer, diabetes, dementia, insert any "it" you can think of). Other people seem to think they're just that special and that they live a charmed life, period.

It's an odd perspective from my people, because they are both fat and have health issues as a result. But they kind of like their health issues, because it makes them "special". 

They're "special", alright...

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1 hour ago, Murphy101 said:

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Except I have had people comment on how paranoid I must be to own a fire extinguisher. I have one of those little ones right outside the garage door into my kitchen so everyone sees it when they come in. And more than one person has laughed about it. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

That’s so weird! (I mean that people think it’s strange, not that you have one 😂) I have one in my kitchen under the sink and one in our upstairs hall closet. We had to use our kitchen one once (for an outdoor fire), and after that I got some of the easy clean up aerosol ones I read about here. Would not be fun to clean up after the foam one inside, but I still keep that one as well as backup to the cleaner one. 

25 minutes ago, Pawz4me said:

I probably shouldn't post this--it might be the final straw for you. But on another message board today someone is posting that she knows a baby who died because the mother got vaccinated, and the vaccine somehow tainted the mother's milk. Or something. She claims an autopsy was done and is implying--but not outright saying--that the coroner ruled that the vaccine was the cause of the baby's death. No source was cited, of course. Although one would think a death like that, complete with autopsy report, would have at least merited a story by a local newspaper or TV station, wouldn't you? Hmmm . . .

I’m thinking that people so inclined will read the story posted here, and then they’ll be the ones telling their friends that they know a baby who….  I think that’s how these kind of things tend to spread. (Nevermind milk is easy to test and researchers have now done so, and there is no trace of vaccine mRNA in breast milk at all.)

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7 minutes ago, KSera said:

 

I’m thinking that people so inclined will read the story posted here, and then they’ll be the ones telling their friends that they know a baby who….  I think that’s how these kind of things tend to spread. (Nevermind milk is easy to test and researchers have now done so, and there is no trace of vaccine mRNA in breast milk at all.)

Possibly. Probably. But I'm over tiptoeing around the stupid folks, just as I'm over being able to care much about what happens to the willfully unvaccinated. There comes a point where the sane people have to stop being held responsible for everything the nutters do or might do. And I've reached that point. As they say, I have no fs left to give.

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11 minutes ago, KSera said:

That’s so weird! (I mean that people think it’s strange, not that you have one 😂) I have one in my kitchen under the sink and one in our upstairs hall closet. We had to use our kitchen one once (for an outdoor fire), and after that I got some of the easy clean up aerosol ones I read about here. Would not be fun to clean up after the foam one inside, but I still keep that one as well as backup to the cleaner one. 

Say what now? What easier to clean up kind?!

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1 hour ago, Murphy101 said:

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Except I have had people comment on how paranoid I must be to own a fire extinguisher. I have one of those little ones right outside the garage door into my kitchen so everyone sees it when they come in. And more than one person has laughed about it. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Not proud of it, but I just muttered some very bad words. 

People make fun of fire extinguishers? Are those just a scam from "big fire" and no one actually has house fires in the real world? Or their house gets destroyed, "with fire" but not "of fire"??

I swear...it is the stupid that will kill me, not the virus. 

(I have two fire extinguishers - one in kitchen, one by fireplace in living room. We also get made fun of for fire safety but that's on fourth of July when we bring it outside, plus put down a fireproof tile to light stuff rather than scorch the street, and have the hose handy)

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You know, if a person can't accept that fire will burn you, I can't imagine how you explain that a virus can kill you. 

Like, if you are the type to touch the hot stove just cause...I got nothing. 

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I did not read the whole thread but this only this last page.  We have a fire extinguisher in our entry way closet.  We were married 2 or 3 days when on our honeymoon we had a fire in our room and all was lost.  We were in the game room when that happened and came back to a townhouse/cabin up in flames!  Needless to say we lost everything but our car and the clothes on our backs!  As a result we were given an advance of insurance money and we went to K-Mart to buy a few things to tide us over.  Brings back a smile now to say we bought during the "blue light special" I think it was called. 

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We have fire extinguishers from our foster care days. And Dh carries one in his car at all times. We've had two cats erupt into flamed over the years. He started carrying one after the 2nd. 😂

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3 hours ago, Murphy101 said:

No lie - I have only ever met one other person who had one in their house.  And she’s now one of my best friends. Because people like us gotta stick together. LOL

I was forced to buy a fire extinguisher for my adoption home study 15 years ago.  I have never used it, and never hope to.  😛

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3 hours ago, ktgrok said:

Well, the first thing to do is to ask for their source/data on those 48,000. 

I think 48,000 is probably an exaggeration, but it might help if people stopped pretending that vaccine injury (Covid and other) is a myth.  When neither side is being objective, it doesn't help educate the educable.

When I see the judgment here about people not believing Covid is going to kill them, it looks pretty much exactly the same as the judgment here about people believing that vax injuries exist.

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32 minutes ago, AbcdeDooDah said:

We have fire extinguishers from our foster care days. And Dh carries one in his car at all times. We've had two cats erupt into flamed over the years. He started carrying one after the 2nd. 😂

*blink*

I think that’s a typo . . .

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