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12 minutes ago, Ausmumof3 said:

Yes, but from what I'm gathering it's mostly (like your article says) because everybody's panic buying. Not that I'm judging--I first heard about the pipeline issue Saturday morning while out doing an errand. I topped up my tank right away, and DH filled his truck on Sunday. But things seemed to be fairly calm until yesterday. DS said the gas station nearest to us was swamped when he came home from work yesterday, and from what I'm hearing on local social media all the stations around here have had long lines all day today.

FWIW, regarding the article stating that NC had declared an emergency--that's mainly because a state of emergency declaration here puts anti-price gauging rules into place and allows truckers to work longer hours (among other things, but those are probably the main ones that apply to this situation).

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The dog food I usually buy through Chewy (Royal Canin) has been out for a while. Used cars are more expensive and harder to find. I've also noticed when I look for t-shirts or shoes on online sites such as Amazon, most colors and sizes are sold out. 

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Chick-Fil-A is facing a shortage of its beloved "Chick-Fil-A Sauce" at its locations across the U.S.

In many of their 2,600 restaurants, employees have been told they are only allowed to give out one sauce packet per food item ordered.

"Due to industry-wide supply chain disruptions, some Chick-fil-A restaurants are experiencing a shortage of select items, like sauces. We are actively working to make adjustments to solve this issue quickly and apologize to our Guests for any inconvenience,” a Chick-Fil-A spokesperson said.

 

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So my car was in the shop for a week and a half, close to an hour from my house, and DH's car now needs gas (we'd gone to pick up my car last week but found it was still having the same issue, so his car has gone there and back three times). We couldn't get gas for his car on the way there this morning or for either one on the way back. We can't plan to go anywhere until we can get gas close by because we're both so low. I'm hoping it's better in time to pick up library books Friday. We have a medical appointment Tuesday morning but can walk all the way to a bus route and simply spend 2 hours each way if needed--the local buses run con compressed natural gas.

I can't think of anything else that's hard to get here right now, but gas is a doozy.

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Now anytime a store is out of something on my list I wonder/worry if it's part of a bigger shortage. So I went to three stores today to get everything on my grocery list, where usually if my main store is out of something I just wait until the next week and they usually have it again. Astringent/toner is one thing that was completely out at Target last Saturday which seemed weird--they used to have the biggest selection of every toiletry item. Then my grocery store didn't have any either, but they do not have the best selection anyway for that kind of thing. Another grocery store had 2-3 bottles each of 2 different brands. My checkout clerk told me camping propane is now limited to 2 per customer (someone else mentioned that upthread).

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3 hours ago, Pawz4me said:

Well, I have about 20+ back from when they’d toss handsful in a bag if you asked for extra,

so hit me up if anyone needs some.

i am looking for tonys supreme pizza. Will trade. But if you’re desperate enough, I can maaaaybeee just give you a few.

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15 minutes ago, Ali in OR said:

Now anytime a store is out of something on my list I wonder/worry if it's part of a bigger shortage. So I went to three stores today to get everything on my grocery list, where usually if my main store is out of something I just wait until the next week and they usually have it again. Astringent/toner is one thing that was completely out at Target last Saturday which seemed weird--they used to have the biggest selection of every toiletry item. Then my grocery store didn't have any either, but they do not have the best selection anyway for that kind of thing. Another grocery store had 2-3 bottles each of 2 different brands. My checkout clerk told me camping propane is now limited to 2 per customer (someone else mentioned that upthread).

I've been at two grocery stores this week and both seemed to have bare spots on the shelves I'm not used to -- things not getting restocked as often as usual.  One Wal-mart had bare spots on the ground where they had taken displays entirely out of the store floor!

 

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I've been at two grocery stores this week and both seemed to have bare spots on the shelves I'm not used to -- things not getting restocked as often as usual.  One Wal-mart had bare spots on the ground where they had taken displays entirely out of the store floor!

 

So many places have waiting areas that look different. 

I went to a place that had “zones” labeled and signs that said if you left your zone, you’d be asked to leave.

then, a piece of artwork caught my eye, and I stupidly stood up and started walking towards it before I remembered my Zone Warning. 

I wanted to yell out, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry” but I figured no one would hear me behind their plexiglass.

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Over night pull ups. I don’t even care what brand. Anything to save daily laundry. Hopefully my Amazon order won’t get cancelled. No one has them locally. 
 

Random stuff like tea, yogurt, detergent, olives, or crackers will disappear for weeks and then come back in abundance. We never know around here.

 

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23 minutes ago, pinball said:

So many places have waiting areas that look different. 

I went to a place that had “zones” labeled and signs that said if you left your zone, you’d be asked to leave.

then, a piece of artwork caught my eye, and I stupidly stood up and started walking towards it before I remembered my Zone Warning. 

I wanted to yell out, “I’m sorry, I’m sorry” but I figured no one would hear me behind their plexiglass.

Waiting areas--

What are you talking about?

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1 minute ago, Wheres Toto said:

But how does that relate to Walmart not having displays on the floor?  I'm confused too.

Bc waiting areas have all been reconfigured so there is much more floor space, so just as Walmart has bare spots where they have removed displays, so, too, do waiting areas have bare spots where more seating used to be.

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Just visited our Del Taco today, and they have a sign saying they are only open from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. now. I asked about it in the Drive-Thru and they said they can't get any workers. It's really sad for the businesses who were struggling due to covid and now continue to struggle due to covid relief checks. 😞

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The Sonic (burger drive-in that used to have the gimmick of servers on roller skates but they haven't done it for years) in our town is operating on limited hours (10 am-8 pm) because they can't get enough workers. But I don't think it is related to Covid relief checks here.

Also, the Sonic here has done so well $$$-wise during the pandemic. They've had record sales since last March that only slowed down in the last few of months when sit down places opened up to more business.

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36 minutes ago, RootAnn said:

The Sonic (burger drive-in that used to have the gimmick of servers on roller skates but they haven't done it for years) in our town is operating on limited hours (10 am-8 pm) because they can't get enough workers. But I don't think it is related to Covid relief checks here.

Also, the Sonic here has done so well $$$-wise during the pandemic. They've had record sales since last March that only slowed down in the last few of months when sit down places opened up to more business.

Our McDonald's in our little town still hasn't opened up dining and their hours are sporadic because they can't hire people. When they are open, the drive thru line is out into the street. Our Gold Star, Little Ceasers, Pizza hut and Burger King are also advertising help wanted, but the couple mom and pop places are definitely not.

On a side note, some of the Sonic still has the skates, we went to one on a trip to the city (our kids had never been) and they were so enamored with the skating waitresses. Im sorry some of them dont do that anymore. I bet they did make a lot of money.

 

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3 hours ago, IfIOnly said:

Just visited our Del Taco today, and they have a sign saying they are only open from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. now. I asked about it in the Drive-Thru and they said they can't get any workers. It's really sad for the businesses who were struggling due to covid and now continue to struggle due to covid relief checks. 😞

That is why some states are removing the federal extra $300 unemployment money.  I think even Biden was asking people to go back to work. 

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I am not feeling badly about workers finally getting raises after 20 years of stagnation. Why should people go back to work for wages that don't buy a decent standard of living? It is time for us to take a hard look at $4 t-shirts from Old Navy and the slave labor that goes into making those clothes -- clothes that don't last and just end up further polluting our planet. Ditto that to the rest of our cheap, single-use plastic and fast fashion economy. How about we go back to paying people a living wage to produce higher priced products that will last? 

I don't find any of this sad; I find it to be the natural consequence of us reevaluating what is important in our lives in a post-pandemic world. 

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On 5/5/2021 at 10:51 PM, mommyoffive said:

The news just said there is a pet food shortage.

This has been an issue for cat food in my area since November. Entire brands have disappeared from most stores within a 30 mile radius. Those that remain have limited types and limited supply. I was VERY happy to stumble upon a 50-75% clearance at Petsmart for short-date and discontinued cat foods a few weeks ago after months of facing empty shelves. 

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On 5/13/2021 at 1:13 PM, SeaConquest said:

I am not feeling badly about workers finally getting raises after 20 years of stagnation. Why should people go back to work for wages that don't buy a decent standard of living? It is time for us to take a hard look at $4 t-shirts from Old Navy and the slave labor that goes into making those clothes -- clothes that don't last and just end up further polluting our planet. Ditto that to the rest of our cheap, single-use plastic and fast fashion economy. How about we go back to paying people a living wage to produce higher priced products that will last? 

I don't find any of this sad; I find it to be the natural consequence of us reevaluating what is important in our lives in a post-pandemic world. 

This is true, but most of them situations I’ve heard of locally seem to be small cafes etc not the big companies manufacturing cheaply offshore.  They really can’t pay more because they will have to close up.

Also we spoke to friends recently with a connection to Cambodia and the situation there seems to be bad.  There’s a lockdown of sorts but no backup plan for getting food to people and local garment industries etc have collapsed so people that were surviving on those wages now have nothing at all. 

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I was able to buy gas yesterday. The line was a block long, and that station is out again now, along with most of the others nearby--people are updating GasBuddy very frequently. DH's car is close to empty, but that's not a problem for us right now. Local schools went virtual for today so they wouldn't have teachers or parents stranded.
I will go into a grocery store for the first time in a long time today. I'll let you know if there's anything I can't find. I do think some price corrections are due after their being forcibly held down for a while, particularly in agriculture, food processing, and food service.

Somebody upthread mentioned detergent--I recommend ordering Charlie's directly. It's very efficient (1 Tbsp./load). Three hundred loads' worth fits into my plastic cereal container.

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On 5/12/2021 at 8:43 PM, SeaConquest said:

I am not feeling badly about workers finally getting raises after 20 years of stagnation. Why should people go back to work for wages that don't buy a decent standard of living? It is time for us to take a hard look at $4 t-shirts from Old Navy and the slave labor that goes into making those clothes -- clothes that don't last and just end up further polluting our planet. Ditto that to the rest of our cheap, single-use plastic and fast fashion economy. How about we go back to paying people a living wage to produce higher priced products that will last? 

I don't find any of this sad; I find it to be the natural consequence of us reevaluating what is important in our lives in a post-pandemic world. 

I will back up more of what I am saying.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/millennials-views-democracy/

Millennials and Gen X are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with democracy. Some are turning to the alt-right/Q anon and populist leaders like Trump, others are looking to antifa and socialist leaders like Bernie. Why is this happening? Just look at the generational wealth gap. By age 35, Boomers owned 21% of the nation's wealth. When Gen X hit 35, we owned 9% of the nation's wealth. Millennials haven't yet turned 35. They won't until 2023, but they currently hold just 3.2% of the nation's wealth. Many in my generation and those behind us feel like we just cannot get ahead.

I read this article about Dogecoin in the NYT today and it basically sums up what many Millennials are feeling and why they are behaving seemingly irrationally in turning down work:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/technology/hes-a-dogecoin-millionaire-and-hes-not-selling.html
 

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These investors, mostly young men, don’t behave rationally in the old-fashioned, Homo economicus sense. They pick investments not based on their underlying fundamentals or the estimates of Wall Street analysts, but on looser criteria, such as how funny they are, how futuristic they seem or how many celebrities are tweeting about them. Their philosophy is that in today’s media-saturated world, attention is the most valuable commodity of all, and that anything that is attracting a great deal of it must be worth something.

“Memes are the language of the millennials,” Mr. Contessoto said. “Now we’re going to have a meme matched with a currency.”

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What explains Dogecoin’s durability, then?

There’s no doubt that Dogecoin mania, like GameStop mania before it, is at least partly attributable to some combination of pandemic-era boredom and the eternal appeal of get-rich-quick schemes.

But there may be more structural forces at work. Over the past few years, soaring housing costs, record student loan debt and historically low interest rates have made it harder for some young people to imagine achieving financial stability by slowly working their way up the career ladder and saving money paycheck by paycheck, the way their parents did.

Instead of ladders, these people are looking for trampolines — risky, volatile investments that could either result in a life-changing windfall or send them right back to where they started.

Mr. Contessoto is a prime case study. He makes $60,000 a year at his job now — a decent living, but nowhere near enough to afford a home in Los Angeles, where the median home costs nearly $1 million. He drives a beat-up Toyota, and spent years living frugally. But in his 30s, still with no house to his name, he decided to go looking for something that could change his fortunes overnight, and ended up at Dogecoin’s door.

When Mr. Contessoto recalls the way he used to pursue wealth — working hard, cutting back on expenses, saving some money from every paycheck — he sees evidence of a system that is rigged against regular people.

“I feel like those experts on TV, the older generation of old money and wealth, they try to scare people into staying safe so nobody gets too rich,” he told me.

His new motto, he said, is “scared money don’t make money.”

 

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I'm not seeing most of the shortages mentioned here, though I don't go into stores often. I'm not having any trouble having most of my online orders filled. 
Ikea hasn't had storage beds in stock for months. 
We can't get a plumber for anything. exterminators, too. 
The Timothy hay I ordered has quadupled in price in 3 weeks. I hope it comes down before we need more. 
We started keeping guinea pigs. It has taken us almost a year to get all 4 guinea pigs.  We got the first one in October . Started looking in July. Got the last one for Mother's Day. 
Ya'll have me thinking I need to stock up on dog food. 
We bought 2 used cars last month with plenty of choices. Gas is about the usual price. I just bought paint without a problem. 
It seems like everyone else had the same idea to fix up the backyard this summer. I guess I'll wait until fall, since it'll be too hot to use it anyway. 

 

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4 hours ago, Desert Strawberry said:

I'm not seeing most of the shortages mentioned here, though I don't go into stores often. I'm not having any trouble having most of my online orders filled. 
Ikea hasn't had storage beds in stock for months. 
We can't get a plumber for anything. exterminators, too. 
The Timothy hay I ordered has quadupled in price in 3 weeks. I hope it comes down before we need more. 
We started keeping guinea pigs. It has taken us almost a year to get all 4 guinea pigs.  We got the first one in October . Started looking in July. Got the last one for Mother's Day. 
Ya'll have me thinking I need to stock up on dog food. 
We bought 2 used cars last month with plenty of choices. Gas is about the usual price. I just bought paint without a problem. 
It seems like everyone else had the same idea to fix up the backyard this summer. I guess I'll wait until fall, since it'll be too hot to use it anyway. 

 

Our Humane Society often has guinea pigs in their small animal section. 

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i can't think of anything I can't get right now, however I do see a lot of help wanted signs almost everywhere I go. I have warned dh that we might have to be flexible with meals on our vacation that is coming up soon.

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On 5/14/2021 at 8:14 PM, SeaConquest said:

Millennials and Gen X are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with democracy. Some are turning to the alt-right/Q anon and populist leaders like Trump, others are looking to antifa and socialist leaders like Bernie. Why is this happening? Just look at the generational wealth gap. By age 35, Boomers owned 21% of the nation's wealth. When Gen X hit 35, we owned 9% of the nation's wealth. Millennials haven't yet turned 35. They won't until 2023, but they currently hold just 3.2% of the nation's wealth. Many in my generation and those behind us feel like we just cannot get ahead.

I read this article about Dogecoin in the NYT today and it basically sums up what many Millennials are feeling and why they are behaving seemingly irrationally in turning down work:

I’m not so sure people are moving in droves to get rich quick schemes, though there’s obviously some of that going on.  But the overall re-evaluation, definitely!

It frustrates me to see so much emphasis put on “unskilled workers”, and I think it’s because they’re the easiest to point at and separate oneself from.

It’s projected that there will be over a million open RN positions sometime next year.  While I’ve heard murmurings of concern over the past few years, I’ve never seen anyone say anything about getting people off their butts and into nursing school so we can keep people healthy and alive. 

The first estimate I was able to find (CNN) claims the restaurant industry is still down about 1.8 million jobs as of a month ago.  Picturing a good bit more than half of that impact on the nursing sector should be really scary to people! Lives vs. fries.

That’s not to say I think people should be pressured into nursing if they have zero interest in it. Who wants a bad nurse? But I feel like we’re getting really bad at prioritizing our societal needs.  

As Boomers are retiring (though, ideally, we’d have thought ahead,) we’ve got to be looking at where to replace them and which jobs to let go.  AARP claims the pandemic brought 3 million more people to retirement than if it hadn’t happened.

I come from a tavern owning family. Almost everyone in my generation and up has been a server, bartender, back of the house worker, you name it. I know a lot of people in that sector and certainly don’t WANT people to lose anything. But I do think we should have started reevaluating way before all of this.

As for local experience, I’ve never seen the lines at Dunkin longer than they’ve been lately, at all times of day, not just morning.  They’ve never not had a help wanted sign in the window, so I’m just guessing it’s even harder now.

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Stopped at Bojangles on the way home from church. Totally forgot about the aforementioned Supremes shortage. They had none. Boo! (DD volunteered at a food pantry yesterday, and they sent home a huge tub of spring mix salad with her -- about to expire -- and I was really looking forward to a salad with chicken on it!)  

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11 hours ago, Carrie12345 said:

I’m not so sure people are moving in droves to get rich quick schemes, though there’s obviously some of that going on.  But the overall re-evaluation, definitely!

It frustrates me to see so much emphasis put on “unskilled workers”, and I think it’s because they’re the easiest to point at and separate oneself from.

It’s projected that there will be over a million open RN positions sometime next year.  While I’ve heard murmurings of concern over the past few years, I’ve never seen anyone say anything about getting people off their butts and into nursing school so we can keep people healthy and alive. 

The first estimate I was able to find (CNN) claims the restaurant industry is still down about 1.8 million jobs as of a month ago.  Picturing a good bit more than half of that impact on the nursing sector should be really scary to people! Lives vs. fries.

That’s not to say I think people should be pressured into nursing if they have zero interest in it. Who wants a bad nurse? But I feel like we’re getting really bad at prioritizing our societal needs.  

As Boomers are retiring (though, ideally, we’d have thought ahead,) we’ve got to be looking at where to replace them and which jobs to let go.  AARP claims the pandemic brought 3 million more people to retirement than if it hadn’t happened.

I come from a tavern owning family. Almost everyone in my generation and up has been a server, bartender, back of the house worker, you name it. I know a lot of people in that sector and certainly don’t WANT people to lose anything. But I do think we should have started reevaluating way before all of this.

As for local experience, I’ve never seen the lines at Dunkin longer than they’ve been lately, at all times of day, not just morning.  They’ve never not had a help wanted sign in the window, so I’m just guessing it’s even harder now.

At least in my state, there are way, way, way more qualified people who want to be nurses than there are training slots. They could likely fill every program at least five times over. Two of my son’s closest friends left the state for post-bac BSNs as admission is even more competitive than for RN programs.  They have made new lives elsewhere and have no plans to come back and work. My understanding is one issue is that most nurses here can make more practicing than teaching, so it’s hard to find instructors.

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45 minutes ago, Frances said:

At least in my state, there are way, way, way more qualified people who want to be nurses than there are training slots. They could likely fill every program at least five times over. Two of my son’s closest friends left the state for post-bac BSNs as admission is even more competitive than for RN programs.  They have made new lives elsewhere and have no plans to come back and work. My understanding is one issue is that most nurses here can make more practicing than teaching, so it’s hard to find instructors.

Yes, nursing instructors are grossly underpaid in my state compared to what they make practicing. Some could even work part-time in practice and still make more than a full time instructor. So there isn't going to be an expansion any time soon unless colleges decide to pay better.

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On 5/16/2021 at 3:03 PM, Frances said:

At least in my state, there are way, way, way more qualified people who want to be nurses than there are training slots. They could likely fill every program at least five times over. Two of my son’s closest friends left the state for post-bac BSNs as admission is even more competitive than for RN programs.  They have made new lives elsewhere and have no plans to come back and work. My understanding is one issue is that most nurses here can make more practicing than teaching, so it’s hard to find instructors.

The "nursing shortage" is totally regional. Where I just was working in East Texas, they hired associates degreed nurses and were desperate to keep them, so they made them all sign contractual agreements with tiny little bonuses. I was working in the ICU with nurses who were hired into the unit straight out of nursing school.

In San Diego, you will not get hired at a hospital without a BSN minimum, and we have many Masters entry programs in our area, so I will be competing with them as well. Most hospitals want you to speak at least passable Spanish. They also want you to have as many certifications as possible, so I have already completed (and paid for) many advanced certifications. I had to write 5 essays when I applied to the UCSD New Grad program. I applied to their two ICU positions. I volunteered at UCSD for 18 months, including in one of the ICU units to which I applied. I had three rotations in the ICU during nursing school, including one in UCSD's cardiovascular ICU taking fresh heart and lung transplants, which is virtually unheard of for a nursing student (I am friends with a surgeon who is an attending/G-d in the unit who pulled strings to get me in during Covid). I didn't even get an interview. It's likely because I was screened out automatically because I am not yet licensed, but still, it is nuts here. You are competing with 1000 people for every new grad position. It will probably take me 6-12 months to get a new grad residency position unless my surgeon friend is able to work his magic again or I take an RN position where I currently work at the County Psych Hospital (which will probably take 3-6 months to get through the bureaucracy).  

So yeah, night and day compared to many other parts of the country. If I went inland 100 miles, it would be different, but coastal California and other very desirable parts of the country are very difficult markets for new grad nurses and for acceptance to nursing school. It was easier for me to get into Stanford Law School than it was for me to get into Western Governors University's nursing program and I couldn't get into SDSU's nursing program because I had a B in one of my pre-requisite science courses. That's how competitive it is here.

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Dh heard that roofing shingles are going to maybe run out and be unavailable

 

And younger people- millenials?- are more interested in having flexible hours and time off than working long hours for more money.  They don't expect to have as much as their parents.

 

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6 minutes ago, Tina said:

ounger people- millinials?- are more interested in having flexible hours and time off than working long hours for more money.  They don't expect to have as much as their parents.

That might be true. As an “elder millennial” I know at least 2 other families, plus my own, that have made decisions about the husbands job that result in less money but more time at home.  Still plenty of money, no one is choosing poverty.  But when the choice is a perfectly good comfortable living with Dad home at 5:30 or 20k more but the kids don’t see dad 6 days a week we choose the husband home at 5:30 option.  

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1 minute ago, HeartString said:

That might be true. As an “elder millennial” I know at least 2 other families, plus my own, that have made decisions about the husbands job that result in less money but more time at home.  Still plenty of money, no one is choosing poverty.  But when the choice is a perfectly good comfortable living with Dad home at 5:30 or 20k more but the kids don’t see dad 6 days a week we choose the husband home at 5:30 option.  

ITA. Not just millennials but many Gen X too (I know no one knows we exist, but still).

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2 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:

ITA. Not just millennials but many Gen X too (I know no one knows we exist, but still).

True!  My hubby is Gen X, so yes, he’s choosing less money for more family time too.   

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6 minutes ago, HeartString said:

 But when the choice is a perfectly good comfortable living with Dad home at 5:30 or 20k more but the kids don’t see dad 6 days a week we choose the husband home at 5:30 option.  

After state and federal taxes, the $20k difference isn’t worth the “unpaid overtime” anymore. My husband opt not to switch to management track, mainly because of the added stress than the extra hours. 

5 minutes ago, Sneezyone said:

ITA. Not just millennials but many Gen X too (I know no one knows we exist, but still).

😂 some of us Gen X are sandwich between parents who have inadequate retirement savings and kids who aren’t working yet.

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1 minute ago, Sneezyone said:

ITA. Not just millennials but many Gen X too (I know no one knows we exist, but still).

Thank you! Gen x here with smaller retirement savings than we would have liked so that  I could homeschool and dad would not be a phantom like my grandfather was, and to some degree,  my own father.

But we also did not trade out for the totally flexible, most time at home job either because that would have meant not having retirement savings which would push that burden onto our own kids. We tried to balance it, and were privileged enough to have the choice.

Is Gen X the "who are these people and why are they here" generation? No one seems to talk about us much!

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1 minute ago, Arcadia said:

After state and federal taxes, the $20k difference isn’t worth the “unpaid overtime” anymore. My husband opt not to switch to management track, mainly because of the added stress than the extra hours. 

😂 some of us Gen X are sandwich between parents who have inadequate retirement savings and kids who aren’t working yet.

This this this this this!!!!!

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