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1 minute ago, Faith-manor said:

Around here the ATI folks preach against their own getting any medical training, both male and female, so they can remain righteous and not encounter these situations. Then of course when the need arises, want their medics, doctors, nurses, physical therapists, you name it. So I think it is a lot like other ridiculous rather closed religious communities...let the heathen do the dirty work and we will take advantage of it, but darn it all, we are the more righteous folks because we don't let our young participate in those careers. Neener neener! I have seen that with the local fundie nutter church. They are 100% against this level of education or participation in the world for their own, but then use EMS, hospitals, you name it all the live long day hoping the unrighteous have studied long and hard to save their lives. The pastor of the one church won't let his eldest daughter study math or science beyond 9th grade so she can be the eternal stay at home daughter and tells everyone else not to let their sons and daughters go to college, but then his profoundly developmentally delayed 7 year old attends developmental preschool and has hours of therapy a day paid for by the evil gubmint and provided by people with master's degrees in their subject material while his wife births their babies at the hospital, and when one of their kids broke her leg - nasty compound fracture - called 911 and male medics tended her. So.....your basic gigantic hypocrisy.

Thank goodness we’re a family of heathens, lol.

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2 hours ago, Quill said:

Same. 

We have a wood-burning furnace that heats our water. I’m grateful for the monetary savings, but it is a lot of work and must be maintained a couple times a day. 

Once, early into our wood-furnace ownership, dh was going away for a weekend and was instructing me on maintaining the fire. “...And then check this temperature meeter and if it is below 160*, add another of these huge logs, and make sure it sits in the center on top of the ash or it won’t burn...” And I just said, “Honey, no. I cannot do all this. Please switch over to oil heat for the weekend and switch it back when you return.” So that’s what we do. I never maintain the wood furnace or chop wood. I burn fossil fuels in his absence and never look back. 

We have an exterior wood boiler and burn propane when we will be gone. For years I had these wonderful teen boys to stock wood, split it, etc. and then they all had the nerve to grow up! Sheesh. So now I am taking care of it when dh is gone. Splitting though is just not my game. I don't seem to possess the upper body strength to really get that axe swinging well enough to do the job other than using the hatchet to split small pieces for kindling, and while I can do it, I am slow at that compared to my sons and husband. But, I am learning.

This will most definitely not be our retirement house. I can see how physically difficult this will be in our later years, and burning exclusively propane for this place is quite expensive.

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2 minutes ago, Carrie12345 said:

Thank goodness we’re a family of heathens, lol.

I raised a heathen, and I am quite proud of it! I have two nieces, one is an ADN and one is an EKG tech, IV tech, and some other certifications that I can't remember who is now the office manager a cardiology clinic. I am proud of them too! I have a nephew in the N.G., and well, he has done some rescue stuff and body parts have been seen. Surprisingly 😁, still a non perverted person! 😉 I seriously wish these extreme religious groups would take a moment to think rationally.

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30 minutes ago, Faith-manor said:

 

I seriously wish these extreme religious groups would take a moment to think rationally.

Humans are way better at emotion-based thinking than at rational thinking.

 

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15 hours ago, KungFuPanda said:

I can't believe you let your good Christian daughter peek at man bits!  

I think if I were young and starting out, I'd have a home improvement/repair business comprised entirely of females.  It seems there's a decent customer base out there of women who prefer not to have strange men in their homes when their husbands are out.  I don't even live in fundie land and I think there'd be plenty of work for a small team.

I have a regular plumber who is my first choice to call who is a lovely woman, and from what she's said, she never is short on work, even at a higher rate, because women are more comfortable with women. She has had a series of female apprentices/helpers.  I do think I'd be nervous about going into peoples homes as a female professional-it's one reason why I teach piano at the community center, and not out of my home or in other people's homes. 

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On 5/9/2021 at 8:02 PM, BlsdMama said:

Not so unusual - my grandmother was remarkably feminist for her generation. After birthing eleven children, she returned to college when the baby was four. However, my grandfather, who really was one to pitch in around home, never had a clue which was the washer and which was the dryer!

My other grandparents kept pretty even on things.  My granddad took over cooking when he retired, but that was largely self defense.  If these two were still alive, they would be more than 130 years old, so it was really a different time.

 

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There's a new podcast from the guy who knew Josh when he was a teenager. 

 

Spoiler if you're not going to listen...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He told Josh that he was "victimized" by someone and Josh told this person. Gothardism is evil. 

 

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On 5/10/2021 at 8:11 AM, Faith-manor said:

Around here the ATI folks preach against their own getting any medical training, both male and female, so they can remain righteous and not encounter these situations. Then of course when the need arises, want their medics, doctors, nurses, physical therapists, you name it. So I think it is a lot like other ridiculous rather closed religious communities...let the heathen do the dirty work and we will take advantage of it, but darn it all, we are the more righteous folks because we don't let our young participate in those careers. Neener neener! I have seen that with the local fundie nutter church. They are 100% against this level of education or participation in the world for their own, but then use EMS, hospitals, you name it all the live long day hoping the unrighteous have studied long and hard to save their lives. The pastor of the one church won't let his eldest daughter study math or science beyond 9th grade so she can be the eternal stay at home daughter and tells everyone else not to let their sons and daughters go to college, but then his profoundly developmentally delayed 7 year old attends developmental preschool and has hours of therapy a day paid for by the evil gubmint and provided by people with master's degrees in their subject material while his wife births their babies at the hospital, and when one of their kids broke her leg - nasty compound fracture - called 911 and male medics tended her. So.....your basic gigantic hypocrisy.

ATI has changed this stance somewhat, at least for males.  They receive actual EMT training at ALERT, though what I’ve seen it was sort of abysmal. We have a number of ATI families still in my area and the boys tend to go off to ALERT and then come home and join the local fire departments.  And then they wind up in my EMT classes thinking they know everything because of ALERT.

 

Also, there is so. Much. Nakedness. In EMS. 

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3 women including me heated with wood for a couple of Vermont winters.  One kind of avoided it a lot, and another was often with her BF after work, so I ended up starting most of the fires.  I got really good at it, especially since the first winter we ended up having to use fairly green wood so it took at lot of fussing to get a good fire going.  

DH thinks that he should man up and make all of our campfires, but actually I am far better at it.  We clash just a tad over this.

I wish that those outdoors wood burners that enhance gas furnace efficiency were legal in CA but alas they are not.  So we have nothing but propane for heat in our cabin, since it’s also not situated well for solar.  This makes me very nervous.  I hate being that dependent on just one external option.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

ATI has changed this stance somewhat, at least for males.  They receive actual EMT training at ALERT, though what I’ve seen it was sort of abysmal. We have a number of ATI families still in my area and the boys tend to go off to ALERT and then come home and join the local fire departments.  And then they wind up in my EMT classes thinking they know everything because of ALERT.

 

Also, there is so. Much. Nakedness. In EMS. 

😂😂😂 Yes, so much naked!

I think what they get is rudimentary CPR, but not certification, and then some American Red Cross type first aid. I know they THINK they know everything because well, that is the ATI way. So much naivety.

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5 minutes ago, Faith-manor said:

😂😂😂 Yes, so much naked!

I think what they get is rudimentary CPR, but not certification, and then some American Red Cross type first aid. I know they THINK they know everything because well, that is the ATI way. So much naivety.

In their phase 3, they can actually choose to take the Texas EMT class. However—my state doesn’t recognize or reciprocate the NREMT certification so they had to redo it in our state.  I don’t know how much was really poor education and how much was sheer annoyance by being taught by a female paramedic.  Apparently they can also take firefighting and diving credentials at ALERT too.
 

The arrogance and the way they treated females really annoyed me, and I usually nip it right in the bud.

https://alertacademy.com/alert/training/advanced-training/emergency-medicine/

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22 minutes ago, Mrs Tiggywinkle said:

In their phase 3, they can actually choose to take the Texas EMT class. However—my state doesn’t recognize or reciprocate the NREMT certification so they had to redo it in our state.  I don’t know how much was really poor education and how much was sheer annoyance by being taught by a female paramedic.  Apparently they can also take firefighting and diving credentials at ALERT too.
 

The arrogance and the way they treated females really annoyed me, and I usually nip it right in the bud.

https://alertacademy.com/alert/training/advanced-training/emergency-medicine/

It is not reciprocal here either. I think both of our states have more robust paramedicine than some so EMT basic does more than others, and EMT advanced does a lot more. I could.be wrong in that, but even NJ allowed fewer procedures, fewer drugs, etc. than here.

That arrogance would just light me up if I had to deal with it!

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On 5/10/2021 at 8:51 AM, maize said:

Humans are way better at emotion-based thinking than at rational thinking.

Rationally, in their theology, God made them naked. And even though Adam and Eve "messed up" things for humankind, God is still making people naked.

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This whole situation makes me sick. I feel bad for Anna and her kids. I'm shocked Josh still has access to his kids even with her supervision. I hope she has the courage to leave him and he spends a very long time in prison.

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